Mandala Seeds Kalichakra and Satori

morp said:

hey baby, nice looking ladies youre harbouring there. quick question, what lamps and wattages are you using? i recently picked up a 250w cfl for £30. if youre interested ill ship you the purveyors info..

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Cheers Morp, they're coming on nicely now - fattening up and spewing out resin The ones I'm most dissapointed with are the Kalichakras, but as I understand it, these guys put on a big spurt late on so I'll wait for that to happen. All 3 of the Satori's are going great guns, the two Indica looking ones are going to be a bumper harvest, the skinner Sativa dominant one (the pics I posted above) is also doing well, but won't produce half the yield of the other two Satoris. It's hard to take pics of the other two - the buds are so thick and dense on the main stem its hard to see anything in there. The colas are about two feet long!

To be honest, I'm moving away from Enviro's and large wattage cfls - I'm not convinced they're the most effective fluorescent lighting source. I'm more interested in T5's and T8's particularly for flowering clones.

come on! Give us a couple pics of those colas--I'm drooling just thinking about those monsters

I want to see these two foot colas! Nice work BG, your grow really helps out with my choice in Mandala seeds...Thanks for the thread..

daddychrisg said:

I want to see these two foot colas!

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Bobburn, Chris

Here's a full size pic of the smaller of the two, the larger is about a foot taller than this one! This the smaller of the two Indica looking ones.

Sorry for pic quality - it's really hard to take decent pics of these they're so tall.

daddychrisg said:

Nice work BG, your grow really helps out with my choice in Mandala seeds...Thanks for the thread..

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Great to hear it Chris - going for Satori?

Nice work! Keep the good, efficient grows coming!

looking good BG!!!

now thats what i call a spear....

I have been following this and I will for sure go with mandala strain next time. Your plant will soon resemble the pics on mandals web site!!

Are you growing with a 400watt HID??

lumberjack_ian said:

looking good BG!!!

now thats what i call a spear....

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Cheers bobburn and Ian, I'm pleased with progress so far. Can't wait to smoke these babies!

mattso101 said:

I have been following this and I will for sure go with mandala strain next time. Your plant will soon resemble the pics on mandals web site!!

Are you growing with a 400watt HID??

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Thanks Matt, thanks for stopping by. I'm pretty sure you'll be delighted with any Mandala seed purchase you make. The guy who produces these seeds is serious about what he does and wants to put quality genetics into the hands of everyone - not just those that can afford 100+ bucks for 10 seeds.

I'll probably end up growing out all his strains, but for the moment I'm interested in understanding how to get the best out of these which will probably take me a few grows to achieve. That's the lovely thing about these plants - they're all different, even different pheno's in the same strain are different and require different feeding levels etc.

I'm hoping to get a Macro lens for my digital Canon D30 - should get some great bud shots with that

The lights are 400w (2 x 200w) of Envirolite CFL's 2,700k. Used the 2700k and the 6,500k one for the first 2-3 weeks of veg then switched to the two 2,700 k ones.

Great looking cola there, mate. You've done a really nice job, I think I'm going to have to get some type of side-lighting installed myself after seeing your pic'.

Very well grown.

All flourecent!! I like it baby grow!! I read an artical in high time about mandala and thier strain ever since then I have wanted to go with thier genetics. and after seeing you grow them I am even more excited. I like the strain that mandala produce low light strains and can tolerate high heat.

Couple of Mom pics

babygro said:

The guy who produces these seeds is serious about what he does and wants to put quality genetics into the hands of everyone - not just those that can afford 100+ bucks for 10 seeds.

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babygro said:

That's the lovely thing about these plants - they're all different, even different pheno's in the same strain are different and require different feeding levels etc.

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Is that really a lovely thing? To have a room full of un-uniform plants. Seems like that causes problems with lighting adjustments and the determination of how much nutrients to add to any one particular plant. The money saved on not growing out multiple plants to find that one pheno you want, buying the f1's you've let the breeder do the work under ideal conditions and you haven't wasted grow space for inferior pheno's. I guess if you want a challenge, this is the way to go. BTW, looking good babygro...

SmokerE said:

Is that really a lovely thing? To have a room full of un-uniform plants. Seems like that causes problems with lighting adjustments and the determination of how much nutrients to add to any one particular plant.

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It's all part of the deal of growing out F1's from seed - you never really know what you're going to get. F1's will always display a fair variety of pheno's - regardless of what seeds they are.

It's all part of the growing process isn't it? Understanding each plant pheno and its needs and each one will probably smoke slightly differently as well. That way you can select which pheno you like the most and keep a mother of it. All the subsequent clones should grow and smoke in exactly the same way.

Getting slightly different phenos from the same strain is one of the best and exciting things about growing out from seed, without that they'd all be the same.

Interesting debate you got going here...
I hate to interupt, but I just gotta subscribe to
this one, so gotta say something.
Nice plants, fucking perfect if you ask me...

babygro said:

Getting slightly different phenos from the same strain is one of the best and exciting things about growing out from seed, without that they'd all be the same.

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Sometimes you don't even find one. My la mom at the moment is not really an ideal mom. The smoke is excellent. It's just that the original mother died, or rather I killed her after a slip with some nutes. She was never really strong, and one in four of her clones either wilt or grow stunted. I've finally found an excellent mom in my chronic plants. Clones take straight away to any medium and grow vibrant and strong from the out-set. suffice to say, I am now outgrowing the la strain. And you saw what happened to my kush.

Good quality f1 genes should be more consistent.

You can't compare la confidential as this is an unstable strain, they tell you as much on there site. The kush from nirvana will also be unstable because its nirvana. Try some flying dutchman seeds.

My confidential are x'd with a mystery haze. Silver, I'd guess by the colour of the bud, as the plant itself is very indica, at least 80-90%.

I can't agree on the kush, as the three males were absolutely beautiful, and all 3 would have made excellent moms. The genetics IMO were amazing, I honestly feel I just got unlucky with the strain. My big mouth as well, pointing out the fem's and males almost as soon as they popped. LOL.

Seriously though, I was amazed at how quickly the seeds germinated and popped through the medium. All 5 in under 48 hours.

skunkushybrid said:

I can't agree on the kush, as the three males were absolutely beautiful, and all 3 would have made excellent moms. The genetics IMO were amazing, I honestly feel I just got unlucky with the strain. My big mouth as well, pointing out the fem's and males almost as soon as they popped. LOL.

Seriously though, I was amazed at how quickly the seeds germinated and popped through the medium. All 5 in under 48 hours.

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All I am saying though is that an f1 with good genetics should be consistent otherwise the strain wouldn't be considered to be very stable.