Manning found not guilty of aiding the enemy, guilty of espionage

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An Army judge on Tuesday acquitted Pfc. Bradley Manning of aiding the enemy by disclosing a trove of secret U.S. government documents but found him guilty of espionage, a mixed verdict that dealt a rebuke to military prosecutors who sought to prove that the largest leak in U.S. history had assisted al-Qaeda.

The judge, Col. Denise Lind, found Manning guilty of most of the more than 20 crimes he was charged with, including several violations of the Espionage Act. He could face a maximum of 136 years in prison.
The case, tried in a small courtroom at Fort Meade, Md., an installation that includes the National Security Agency, unfolded amid a heated national conversation about the right balance between government secrecy and civil liberties — a debate fueled by recent revelations about the scope of U.S. anti-terrorism surveillance programs.

In charging Manning with aiding the enemy, government prosecutors argued that the former intelligence analyst’s decision to release diplomatic cables and battlefield reports amounted to the highest form of treason.

Lind did not buy that argument. But her verdict, which marked the first major espionage conviction during the Obama administration, is certain to set markers in the debate over government secrecy and whistleblower protections.

Manning’s attorney, David E. Coombs, said he was pleased by the verdict, but he signaled that the decisive moment will come during the sentencing phase of the court-martial, which opens Wednesday and could last several weeks.

“We won the battle, now we need to go win the war,” Coombs said after leaving court. “Today is a good day, but Bradley is by no means out of the fire.”

Lind also acquitted Manning, 25, of one count of violating the Espionage Act that stemmed from his leak of a video that depicted a deadly U.S. military airstrike in Afghanistan’s Farah province.

Military prosecutors did not speak publicly after the verdict. Some lawmakers said the case served as a reminder that the government must do more to prevent the disclosure of classified information, citing the disclosures about U.S. surveillance programs by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden.

“There is still much work to be done to reduce the ability of criminals like Bradley Manning and Edward Snowden to harm our national security,” said a statement issued by Reps. Mike Rogers (R-Mich.) and C.A. Dutch Ruppersberger (Md.), the chairman and ranking Democrat, respectively, on the House Intelligence Committee.

Legal precedent feared

The eight-week trial at Fort Meade offered a gripping account of Manning’s transformation after he was deployed to Iraq in 2009. Prosecutors asserted that, after being startled by what he came to view as egregious U.S. wartime misconduct, Manning became a mole for the anti-secrecy group WikiLeaks, using his access to classified information to collect more than 700,000 documents that ultimately became public. They ranged from sensitive detainee assessments to diplomatic dispatches, some decades old, that embarrassed their authors and angered their subjects.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...94a75c-f897-11e2-afc1-c850c6ee5af8_story.html


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What a messed up world we live in...
 
War crimes are for the Losers. Simple as that. Manning had no ability, no authority, or any sense, apparently, to understand that. He lost when he got caught. He is in fact, a War Criminal, convicted.

I just saw, Hanoi Hilton again. Air Pirates. Not subject to the Conventions. Brutalized and Paraded.

War Criminals in fact. They broke their little ship.
(Picard Reference....anyone?)
 
If you do the wrong thing for the right reasons you still have to pay.... for doing the wrong thing.
 
make sure you show that post to your recruiter. werent you talking about going into the service? Or have you been to busy posting 1000s of "questions" on RIU?
 
Every soldier has the responsibility to do what Manning did

To escape. ]Every soldier has the duty to escape.

I don't know were you got that shit above. Just make it up, I guess.

It is nowhere in History and it is prohibited by Oath to the Constitution.

Don't enlist. You too will get a beat down. How foolish can one get?
 
Stop It! To wiki-leaks? It's his duty to report it to who? Not the enemy, don't you get it?

To the public

The excuse that releasing the secret information about governments and their illegal activities will harm those governments or put peoples lives at risk is hyperbolic bullshit. They don't want the public to know because there would be reactions exactly like there were when Snowden leaked the information about the NSA
 
I don't believe these two case are similar.

What did Manning disclose that was so earth shattering to you, Mr. John Q. Public? I find nothing to horrify me. But, it was motives, and methods, and he was too careful to leave proof he was in fact Aiding the Enemy. What he revealed has lead to deaths, but Aiding is a far bar to prove it.

So, Espionage. The beatings will continue.

You seem mixed up, like so many. There are ways to do whistle blowing, if you are not a glory hound dip-shit.

Deep Throat, perhaps never came forward. And that reveal was bigger than all cattle. :)

So, mixed up, like Manning, if you say so, but I think Manning was lucky with no proof of Aid.
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Snowden is different. And if oil prices were not $107 Spot, he would be coming back.

I still have room in my heart that the Fundamental Change is exposing this violation of the 4th A and all the other abuses, primarily. They can't be changed unless exposed. They are surely collecting all voice. And how long they keep that....who knows? Maybe they only keep a few juicy words to get your family with later if you come under scrutiny.

It's not like they can't and it is not like they wouldn't.....so they do. They just began collecting and storing passwords. Began? Oh, no. They got caught continuing.

Mass Voice collection and storage alone is too big to even contemplate. The Matrix is the end state. We won't know what to believe. Hey this has been going on and I don't know what to believe, do you?

But, again, Snowden cleared datum and took laptops. However, he I can give the PASS. they can possibly get to him in Russia if the collect and manipulate all VOICE. This is just too big. So BIG, in fact, no Sci-fi was written about that. To me, having read it all, BIG. No one thought they would or could, etc. Byond even me. So, I thank Snowden for that.

Most Americans still think we are only collecting the metadata. Putin knows first hand we are not. We are collecting all VOICE. His main aid was recorded talking to Obama.

Did this Domestic Spying aid the Obama re-election along with the IRS? This is very bad. Feel me? Snowden days may still be numbered and I don't know what else he had on those laptops
or how many will die. But, I thank he for opening my eyes. How's that?
 
I don't believe these two case are similar.

What did Manning disclose that was so earth shattering to you, Mr. John Q. Public? I find nothing to horrify me. But, it was motives, and methods, and he was too careful to leave proof he was in fact Aiding the Enemy. What he revealed has lead to deaths, but Aiding is a far bar to prove it.

So, Espionage. The beatings will continue.

You seem mixed up, like so many. There are ways to do whistle blowing, if you are not a glory hound dip-shit.

Deep Throat, perhaps never came forward. And that reveal was bigger than all cattle. :)

So, mixed up, like Manning, if you say so, but I think Manning was lucky with no proof of Aid.

How are they not similar, both Manning and Snowden are government whistleblowers, both went to Wikileaks and both are facing criminal charges because of it

Manning exposed war crimes committed by the United States

How was he "aiding the enemy" and how could you possibly link the information he leaked to American deaths?


Snowden is different. And if oil prices were not $107 Spot, he would be coming back.

I still have room in my heart that the Fundamental Change is exposing this violation of the 4th A and all the other abuses, primarily. They can't be changed unless exposed. They are surely collecting all voice. And how long they keep that....who knows? Maybe they only keep a few juicy words to get your family with later if you come under scrutiny.

It's not like they can't and it is not like they wouldn't.....so they do. They just began collecting and storing passwords. Began? Oh, no. They got caught continuing.

Mass Voice collection and storage alone is too big to even contemplate. The Matrix is the end state. We won't know what to believe. Hey this has been going on and I don't know what to believe, do you?

But, again, Snowden cleared datum and took laptops. However, he I can give the PASS. they can possibly get to him in Russia if the collect and manipulate all VOICE. This is just too big. So BIG, in fact, no Sci-fi was written about that. To me, having read it all, BIG. No one thought they would or could, etc. Byond even me. So, I thank Snowden for that.

Most Americans still think we are only collecting the metadata. Putin knows first hand we are not. We are collecting all VOICE. His main aid was recorded talking to Obama.

Did this Domestic Spying aid the Obama re-election along with the IRS? This is very bad. Feel me? Snowden days may still be numbered and I don't know what else he had on those laptops
or how many will die. But, I thank he for opening my eyes. How's that?

What is the difference between Manning and Snowden to you? You seem to oppose what Manning did but support what Snowden did, that seems inconsistent.
 
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