Marijuana in general losing potency over the last few months...

I've had some of my patients and friends of their tell me that ALL marijuana doesn't have the kick that it used to. (starting a year ago) This isn't confined to one strain but ALL strains. Strains they have had by me in the past now seem much less potent. Other medicine I've gotten for them from other caregivers don't have that kick any more either. This isnt a burn out on one strain phenomenon, but ALL strains. This isn't just medicine they have gotten from me but stuff they have gotten from other people. People I don't know. Anyone else experiencing this?

tolerance is a motherfucker! I get the same ideas and comments but the lab says otherwise. high like back in the day he says.....back in the day... before he smoked all day is more like it.

I believe you are speaking of MJ tolerance in general. Jack Daniel's and Nocor doesn't seem to have the kick they used to either It is our bodies way of dealing with these "toxins".

you have bud thats been cured for longer than 3 months around???



me neither brah....


when DJ Short said his favorite strain he was smoking right now (this was over the winter at one of his seminars at OM) was a blueberry he grew in some different way that was on its 4th year curing i about hit the floor.

its something i've been calling for for a while now.. ever since michigan went legal, the cure time has been cut to nearing nothing compared top the bud we used to get from around the country.

Hmmmm.... I don't know if it's just MJ burnout. Some of my patients have been smoking non stop for 30 - 40 years. They smoke the same amount as they did when it was only Mexican brick. Then about a year ago shit stopped getting them real high. And progressively less high. All strains. The curing process has been the same. Cory: I was wondering what the lab numbers were showing... Tomcat: That contradicts the wide spread theory that pot loses potency over time. I'm not trying to argue, just pointing out my observations.

monsanto is sneaking in and switching genes to make it less potent!! hide your gardens!

j/k im guessing its just tolerance, when was the last time any of these people took a break since there was a steady supply of medical around? im guilty of thinking its my stuff too, but then i have to sit back and think about how much i smoke, its just tolerance.

Come to Colorado our smoke is still potent as ever. Many things affect potency. Probably user error or tolerance.

It's just tolerance. Time to step up to concentrates! I tend to agree with Tomcat about no one curing their stuff around here.

im guessing these people just found out what dabbing was and now can't figure out why joints taste like cigarettes.

well stored and cured marijuana will gain potency only by the reduction in chlorophyll and the things we dont want. if improperly stored THC does break down to CBN... which fucks you up even more (sedative) so.. maybe they used to like that added CBN.. you keep your TOO nice? lol

old hash used to knock people out because of the outer brown CBN layer.

i would prefer cured for over a few years but i get a few weeks if i'm lucky.

also.. many trim right away after harvest... the commercial way!!!

not me.. i let it hand trim when dry, the sugars still continue to metabolize into cannabnids and flavoinoids after you cut it. just cuz you cut the bottom stem doesn't mean its dead.. the plant keeps living for days.. converting sugars into more potent cannabis.. then imagine a two year cure where the microbes get to eat all that chlorophyll..

https://www.icmag.com/modules/Tutorials/Harvesting and Curing/1680.htm

https://www.icmag.com/modules/Tutorials/Harvesting and Curing/714.htm

hasn't weed been getting better over the years with all of the scientific studies gone into growing bigger more potent plants? Don't the clubs/stores that distribute get their inventory tested for thc levels and the other contents in it?

tomcatjones said:

you have bud thats been cured for longer than 3 months around???



me neither brah....


when DJ Short said his favorite strain he was smoking right now (this was over the winter at one of his seminars at OM) was a blueberry he grew in some different way that was on its 4th year curing i about hit the floor.

its something i've been calling for for a while now.. ever since michigan went legal, the cure time has been cut to nearing nothing compared top the bud we used to get from around the country.

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I'm not sure that I buy the whole theory of curing. I busted out a jar of Kali Mist that I set aside last year in April that had been jarred, air tight in the basement (dark, cool) and aside from maybe a slight improvement in how smooth it smoked I didn't notice a bit of difference in potency. In fact it may have been slightly less so.

I tend to believe that if there is such a thing as peak potency it is closer to harvest than any time else.

st0wandgrow said:

I'm not sure that I buy the whole theory of curing. I busted out a jar of Kali Mist that I set aside last year in April that had been jarred, air tight in the basement (dark, cool) and aside from maybe a slight improvement in how smooth it smoked I didn't notice a bit of difference in potency. In fact it may have been slightly less so.

I tend to believe that if there is such a thing as peak potency it is closer to harvest than any time else.

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gonna disagree. but this is dependent on method, and environment. another http://www.theweedblog.com/the-art-of-curing-your-medical-marijuana/

tomcatjones said:

gonna disagree. but this is dependent on method, and environment. another http://www.theweedblog.com/the-art-of-curing-your-medical-marijuana/

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I read the links you posted. I do agree that properly harvested weed is superior to stuff that is quick- dried and sold. No question.

But if someone has taken the time to properly dry their crop, then I'm not so sure that the weed will be any more potent if it sits in a jar for 1 month, 6 months, or six years.

A good way to find out would be to take a nug 1 month after harvest and have it tested, and then pull another nug from the same harvest out of the jar a year later and send it to the same lab for testing. I'd be shocked if there were any discernible difference.

I have no evidence outside of personal experience to back this up with. Just my 2 cents.

tomcatjones said:

not me.. i let it hand trim when dry, the sugars still continue to metabolize into cannabnids and flavoinoids after you cut it. just cuz you cut the bottom stem doesn't mean its dead.. the plant keeps living for days.. converting sugars into more potent cannabis.. then imagine a two year cure where the microbes get to eat all that chlorophyll..

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i disagree with you here. a two year cure where the microbes eat all that chlorophyll???? no way! i dont want ANYTHING eating away at my buds while its curing. and microbes decomposing your buds as its stored will never make it more potent, it would any degrade your bud.

how are you storing yours anyway that microbes would be able to keep breaking it down? that doesnt even come close to sounding right.

come on now.

and im not being an ass, im just shocked, perhaps i misunderstood what you typed but i re-read it a couple times so i think not.

JeromeT said:

I've had some of my patients and friends of their tell me that ALL marijuana doesn't have the kick that it used to. (starting a year ago) This isn't confined to one strain but ALL strains. Strains they have had by me in the past now seem much less potent. Other medicine I've gotten for them from other caregivers don't have that kick any more either. This isnt a burn out on one strain phenomenon, but ALL strains. This isn't just medicine they have gotten from me but stuff they have gotten from other people. People I don't know. Anyone else experiencing this?

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I'm on the east coast and I know what you are talking about.
I been thinking a lot of new growers and somebody wasn't curing right or something.Then I thought it was not the same strains
I just don't know what it is,hopefully one day I'll grow more than I can smoke.

OP, I have a strain that I have tested over and over for about 3 years now. it tests the same within 1% +/- . I've re-vegged it and the test was the same. harvest date changed it a little. effect, on all of us is lowered. when strains get old I've heard and seen a drop in yield over years but not the cannabanoid profile so much.

Anyone notice that funky smell in new mason jars from the plastic/glue along the inside lid edge? Strong herb masks the weird smell mostly. For long term storage I'm thinking mason jars aren't the way to go due to this smelly adheasive.

GreenSummit said:

i disagree with you here. a two year cure where the microbes eat all that chlorophyll???? no way! i dont want ANYTHING eating away at my buds while its curing. and microbes decomposing your buds as its stored will never make it more potent, it would any degrade your bud.

how are you storing yours anyway that microbes would be able to keep breaking it down? that doesnt even come close to sounding right.

come on now.

and im not being an ass, im just shocked, perhaps i misunderstood what you typed but i re-read it a couple times so i think not.

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Think about this though: I was turned on to a water cure looking for a way to remove taste and harsh to the max for a patient that has never smoked but wants the smoking effect and found the claim that a water cure increased potency. well, it does in a way that might help you understand how a cure might help potency. the same amount of bud in a water cure is added to water for up to a week. you change the water and protect it from light. there is X amount of THC in this bud beginning to end. The increase in potency comes from the water cure (the end is pull it out and dry the shit out of it ASAP) reducing the weight of the bud in the end. so same amount of THC=X but in a less weighty product. The microbes are everywhere in the world already you're not making a jar culture of nasty bugs when you cure, they are already there you're just making sure they have an aerobic environment to work in. that bud cured in a jar would have weighed more and been technically less potent by weight, dig?

Cory and trevor said:

Think about this though: I was turned on to a water cure looking for a way to remove taste and harsh to the max for a patient that has never smoked but wants the smoking effect and found the claim that a water cure increased potency. well, it does in a way that might help you understand how a cure might help potency. the same amount of bud in a water cure is added to water for up to a week. you change the water and protect it from light. there is X amount of THC in this bud beginning to end. The increase in potency comes from the water cure (the end is pull it out and dry the shit out of it ASAP) reducing the weight of the bud in the end. so same amount of THC=X but in a less weighty product. The microbes are everywhere in the world already you're not making a jar culture of nasty bugs when you cure, they are already there you're just making sure they have an aerobic environment to work in. that bud cured in a jar would have weighed more and been technically less potent by weight, dig?

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If the weed is properly stored in an air-tight sealed container then there would be no oxygen for the microbes to survive. I can wrap my brain around a lot of different claims when it comes to curing, but I don't think there are microscopic critters processing our nugs for us in sealed jars. Chemical processes occurring for a *while*, sure ..... but I'm not buying the microbe thingy.