Marijuana Legalization Is Failing In Canada

gb123

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yes and we saw it coming years ago lol :hump:

Last month, Canada took the monumental step of legalizing recreational cannabis nationwide. It is only the second country and first major economy to do so.

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TL;DR Cannabis legalization has failed to deliver on its core promises. Other complications have marred the process, as well. These problems could threaten legalization ahead of the federal election next year.

Legalization will have sweeping consequences. Canadians arrested for possession and low-level marijuana-related offenses will be released; the government will now be able to tax the popular drug; and the whole country is poised to benefit from weed tourism.


But the process of legalization has also been marred with controversy and complications.

After just a few days, liscensed dispensaries across the country began to empty their shelves. Government-run retailers, especially, were not prepared to meet the massive demand for legal product.

In Quebec, the société québécoise du cannabis (SQDC), which has a monopoly on cannabis sales, has had to close its stores three days per week in order to manage its dwindling supply. Right now, there's no telling when its producers will be able to provide another viable crop.

On the SQDC website, only three products remain in stock.

In Ontario, the online Ontario Cannabis Store is currently the only legal provider of marijuana. Private retailers are expected to open sometime next year. But in the meantime, customers have complained about horrendous customer service and confusing purchase processes.

The inadequacy of legal means for buying marijuana has pushed consumers back to the black market. According to a report from The Globe and Mail, over the weekend, illegal sellers have reported a massive increase in sales since October 17th.

This is an extremely troubling sign. Recall that the promise of eliminating the cannabis black market was the driving force behind the legalization of recreational use. The prosperity of the black market in just the first month after legalization undermines that claim.

In fact, even if the legal cannabis supply stabilizes, the austerity of the legal marijuana market, with its limited number of stores and clinical aesthetic, will likely fuel the black market indefinitely.

The legal ambiguity of cannabis regulations will also persist.

On October 17th, an entire new legal code came into immediate force. The lack of any real precedent for a regime of legal weed has created problems for police departments. Officers in Quebec, for example, have admitted that they aren't exactly sure how to enforce the province's strict rules about cannabis transportation. There is also uncertainty about how to catch an individual driving high.


For all of these reasons, marijuana legalization appears to be failing in Canada. The situation may very well improve in time. But the shortcomings of legalization put it in a precarious position ahead of the Canadian federal election next year.

Expect cannabis to become a core campaign issue next year. Opposition parties will likely call out the Trudeau government for the apparent mismanagement of the legalization process.

The Liberal government and Trudeau himself are popular enough right now to sail through reelection. If problems continue to plague marijuana legalization, that popularity may not last.

and they seem to miss the REAL IMPORTANT POINTS not even mentioned here
hahahahaha awesome shit :lol:
 

SB85

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They just need enough growers/retail shops to meet the huge demand. legal cannabis is going to be a boom in terms of investors/tourism among other things for Canada.... I'm just happy people able to enjoy Cannabis without fearing jail time/loss of a job due to testing and etc. I hope more countries fellow along and get the plant legalized
 

dienowk

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They just need enough growers/retail shops to meet the huge demand. legal cannabis is going to be a boom in terms of investors/tourism among other things for Canada.... I'm just happy people able to enjoy Cannabis without fearing jail time/loss of a job due to testing and etc. I hope more countries fellow along and get the plant legalized
Loss of job is a worry for anyone deemed to be in a safety sensitive type of employment, so basically if you work with anything heavy, anything "dangerous", or anything moving, legalization does not protect you from job loss.
 

CalyxCrusher

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They just need enough growers/retail shops to meet the huge demand. legal cannabis is going to be a boom in terms of investors/tourism among other things for Canada.... I'm just happy people able to enjoy Cannabis without fearing jail time/loss of a job due to testing and etc. I hope more countries fellow along and get the plant legalized
Unfortunately it won't be the success people think it will be. At least not on the scale they think. For one, the cannabis is absolutely terrible and below BM average at a higher price. And irradiated to boot. Lots of restrictions on consumption as well.
 

SB85

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Loss of job is a worry for anyone deemed to be in a safety sensitive type of employment, so basically if you work with anything heavy, anything "dangerous", or anything moving, legalization does not protect you from job loss.


I thought they were treating Cannabis like alcohol?like it's okay to smoke/vape once off the job long as a person doesn't come to work under the influence.
 

dienowk

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That needs to be ironed out being as a person shouldn't be worried about catching the boot over something that's deemed legal
I agree, sadly the people making the rules know what they know of cannabis largely due to prohibitionist lies, they believe that because thc metabolites exist in your blood that you may still be impaired days later, it is going to take many years for this mess to be sorted out and for cannabis to potentially be treated anything like alcohol. About the only benefit from legalization outside of the storage limit for med patients being removed (which no one followed anyways), is that more studies and real answers will come out to help shape future policy.
 

VIANARCHRIS

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Hahahaha oh if only that were the case. Wouldn't it be great?
It will be straightened out, and rather quickly imo. There are already laws preventing employees from random drug tests except in approved safety sensitive jobs. Certain jobs can use a higher threshold for 'fit for duty', but they do not have the legal authority to decide what an employee does on their own time. If the cops have no idea how to determine if someone is legally 'impaired' by cannabis, how is your foreman going to be able to? We had a member of this forum that went through it and won a large settlement - how many of those it takes to convince employers that their authority ends at the end of the day is yet to be determined, but I imagine shareholders won't be happy paying out lawsuits.
 

VIANARCHRIS

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That said, my employer is perfectly fine with me smoking weed at work and operating any tool or equipment that I need to. I have demonstrated that I am not impaired and they are thrilled with the job I do. If employers can continue to treat cannabis as an equal to cocain and meth, we will see a situation where a anti-pot employer can legally discriminate against Canadians for engaging in a legal activity.
 

CannaReview

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They just need enough growers/retail shops to meet the huge demand. legal cannabis is going to be a boom in terms of investors/tourism among other things for Canada.... I'm just happy people able to enjoy Cannabis without fearing jail time/loss of a job due to testing and etc. I hope more countries fellow along and get the plant legalized
You need to read up on the rules and what has been happening with cops ticketing people. There's lots of fear from losing your job still and some of the provinces have archaic second and third convictions for cannabis DUI. Most people in Canada wanted it decriminalized first not criminalized. What if a cop sees you in public with an OZ of weed and asks you to show proof that its not illicit weed. You cant show it, well its court time. Get convicted for having a legal product and now say good bye to being able to travel to a lot of countries.
 

SB85

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You need to read up on the rules and what has been happening with cops ticketing people. There's lots of fear from losing your job still and some of the provinces have archaic second and third convictions for cannabis DUI. Most people in Canada wanted it decriminalized first not criminalized. What if a cop sees you in public with an OZ of weed and asks you to show proof that its not illicit weed. You cant show it, well its court time. Get convicted for having a legal product and now say good bye to being able to travel to a lot of countries.


That's a terrible way to treat people using a plant that's supposed to be legal..Where can i find the laws regarding cannabis when it comes to rules in the provinces?
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiD0JnlxtTeAhXJtlkKHbmwDf8QFjAAegQIDBAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FProvinces_and_territories_of_Canada&usg=AOvVaw1mLitFWnWrUwHPExw5vqWO
 

VIANARCHRIS

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You need to read up on the rules and what has been happening with cops ticketing people. There's lots of fear from losing your job still and some of the provinces have archaic second and third convictions for cannabis DUI. Most people in Canada wanted it decriminalized first not criminalized. What if a cop sees you in public with an OZ of weed and asks you to show proof that its not illicit weed. You cant show it, well its court time. Get convicted for having a legal product and now say good bye to being able to travel to a lot of countries.
Wouldn't it be up to the cops to prove it was illicit? Innocent until proven guilty. A mmar or acmpr grower can legally share up to 30g at a time. If the guy says my buddy Chris gave me some from his supply - no laws have been broken.
 

The Hippy

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From my take your correct Chris.
I'd love to watch a cop struggle with what to do. Maybe it will be a moot point but I bet some cops have a hard time handing it back.....or not touching it in the first place....fuck cops...trudy and blair and legalization.
Wouldn't it be up to the cops to prove it was illicit? Innocent until proven guilty. A mmar or acmpr grower can legally share up to 30g at a time. If the guy says my buddy Chris gave me some from his supply - no laws have been broken.
 
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