Mayor Pete!

abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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Padawanbater2 said:
That's the link
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OK, so you have no rebuttal for the arguments then? Just a bunch of images apparently showing that you hid the link after being pressed for it. I still had to find it myself and share it plainly. Everytime I cite something I make it plain to see what I'm citing.

Now that we finally dragged that out of you along with some self righteous fake-vindication memes, you are left only with the argument that 3 of the people who support Buttigieg's policy to tackle systemic racism are Bernie supporters. Theintercept told them they had endorsed Buttigieg, which he never claimed and they were just so shocked. That's so racist of him...

Oh wait, he never claimed they endorsed him or even supported him, only that they supported his policy regarding countering systemic racism. I also support his policy. Quick, link some photos of Bernie with black people to convince us.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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Why don't you just admit you didn't know you could hyperlink instead of copy/paste the link like you do? It really isn't the giant deal you're making it out to be, and I'm not the type of person who cares about that sort of thing anyway because it doesn't matter

Why go on a diatribe over multiple pages and posts when everyone here reading this now can see exactly where you made your mistake?

If you will lie about something so small and insignificant, what else will you lie about?
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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Padawanbater2 said:
Why don't you just admit you didn't know you could hyperlink instead of copy/paste the link like you do? It really isn't the giant deal you're making it out to be, and I'm not the type of person who cares about that sort of thing anyway because it doesn't matter

Why go on a diatribe over multiple pages and posts when everyone here reading this now can see exactly where you made your mistake?

If you will lie about something so small and insignificant, what else will you lie about?
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Oh look, another post where you try to highlight something other than the arguments made. I'll try to see if you hid any links in it.
 
Fogdog

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Padawanbater2 said:
Why don't you just admit you didn't know you could hyperlink instead of copy/paste the link like you do? It really isn't the giant deal you're making it out to be, and I'm not the type of person who cares about that sort of thing anyway because it doesn't matter

Why go on a diatribe over multiple pages and posts when everyone here reading this now can see exactly where you made your mistake?

If you will lie about something so small and insignificant, what else will you lie about?
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Propaganda is effective when it's repeated over and over without any contradictory voices to show the lies contained in it. You keep posting the crap and people keep knocking you down for it. That's how your kind will be beaten.

Now then, tell us that "rigged" story. You know the one that Putin and Sanders cooked up about how Hillary bought the DNC and weaponized it against Sanders but it only worked on women and dark skinned people and there is no evidence that it happened and despite the iron maiden's control of the DNC, Sanders used DNC resources to tear down Hillary without paying for it. Somehow in all of that, his IT guy hacked the server to steal Clinton's data but that was just an "innocent act of zeal". Everybody just laughed it off. I like stories that end with everyone laughing.
 
zeddd

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ElfoodStampo said:
That's fair, I guess I like that he doesn't have experience. It give an opportunity for fresh perspectives. But I can understand why it's off-putting, for lots of reasons too. I would hope he would surround himself with smart people that know more about the politics . And he isn't fake. I think that's the biggest plus .
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Aren’t you late for your torch-light parade?
 
Fogdog

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Padawanbater2 said:
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It's revealing how hard you guys are working to tear down others while Bernie did absolutely nothing to mend or build bridges with Democratic voters who rejected him in 2016. Bernie is a very divisive leader. This link you sent, for example. If you read what actually happened, it's a big "meh". Three leaders who were cited as supporting a policy were "shocked". This is such an odious and divisive way to win. Makes me want somebody else. Any of the others are better than your prince of lies.

His tour with Perez was one-sided. Perez was all flowers and goodness to Sanders and that old fucker did his level best to tear down Democrats throughout. His speech at an MLK-memorium/town hall meeting in Jackson Mississippi was an Obama bash that alienated black voters. Sanders strategy with black voters is the same as Republikkkan strategy -- suppress their vote.
 
Fogdog

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ElfoodStampo said:
Shoot, you're right! Is your mom still giving me a ride on the way to the whore house?
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That's mighty thin-skinned of you. We get posts from Trump supporters that are much worse than what Zedd wrote to you. It's a fact that the torchlight parade was 100% filled with Trump's racist paramilitary supporters. Scenes like that are why anybody who says they are a Trump supporter is looked at sideways. If you are really here to learn what the other side is saying, perhaps you should start by listening.

Just listening to Trump's rhetoric and the actions of his followers, it's reasonable to conclude that all of his supporters are at the very least ignorant about systemic racism and tacitly support it. To cheer on his statements about "Mexicans" is an act of racism. Surely you don't think the chant "jews will not replace us" was covered up by replacing the first word with "you"? You say you support this guy. Those murderous torch bearers. The racist who killed three people on a Portland light rail train. They are who we think of when you say that.

Ever since Trump took office, my home city, Portland Oregon has been the target of violent fascist groups who send hundreds of trained fighters to create economic and social mayhem here several times a year. They even brag about how they are "punishing" Portland for resisting Trump. That didn't happen before Trump took office. When I read you saying you support Trump, what I hear you saying is you support Patriots Prayer and their enforcers, Proud Boys. I'm here to talk but I'm not here to be nice about what Trump and his supporters are doing.
 
hanimmal

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Fogdog said:
That's mighty thin-skinned of you. We get posts from Trump supporters that are much worse than what Zedd wrote to you. It's a fact that the torchlight parade was 100% filled with Trump's racist paramilitary supporters. Scenes like that are why anybody who says they are a Trump supporter is looked at sideways. If you are really here to learn what the other side is saying, perhaps you should start by listening.

Just listening to Trump's rhetoric and the actions of his followers, it's reasonable to conclude that all of his supporters are at the very least ignorant about systemic racism and tacitly support it. To cheer on his statements about "Mexicans" is an act of racism. Surely you don't think the chant "jews will not replace us" was covered up by replacing the first word with "you"? You say you support this guy. Those murderous torch bearers. The racist who killed three people on a Portland light rail train. They are who we think of when you say that.

Ever since Trump took office, my home city, Portland Oregon has been the target of violent fascist groups who send hundreds of trained fighters to create economic and social mayhem here several times a year. They even brag about how they are "punishing" Portland for resisting Trump. That didn't happen before Trump took office. When I read you saying you support Trump, what I hear you saying is you support Patriots Prayer and their enforcers, Proud Boys. I'm here to talk but I'm not here to be nice about what Trump and his supporters are doing.
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I think his would be victims are still waiting for the phone call from Trump saying he is sorry for putting targets on them...
 
Fogdog

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hanimmal said:



I think his would be victims are still waiting for the phone call from Trump saying he is sorry for putting targets on them...
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One can call up images of Antifa that seem threatening too. There was even a case where a Trump demonstrator was badly injured when one of the anti-fascists hit him on the head with an iron bar (a heavy bike lock). So, there are counter-examples that can be shown.

The difference is in the body count, the hospitalizations, the rise in hate crime, the actions of law enforcement where they look the other way when fascists are doing the beating as in Charlottesville and in Portland Oregon. They even let some Proud Boy snipers go when they were found setting up on the top of a parking garage. Didn't even take their guns away. Just politely asked to not shoot and depart the area. Not even taken in for questioning to keep them off the streets during the highly charged confrontations that afternoon.

These guys aren't about defending civil rights:

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These are:

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Note how the people defending Portland from fascist power have to cover up. Also they are skinny. Not really there to fight. The crowd of thousands are their strength. Those are voters and the City Government of Portland were forced to clear the streets of fascists because we were there. Fascists hate the fact that they are really just a tiny minority. Trump's endorsement gives them outsized voices.
 
Padawanbater2

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Fogdog said:
His speech at an MLK-memorium/town hall meeting in Jackson Mississippi was an Obama bash that alienated black voters.
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Remember when you said that would be the end of his campaign?

Now he's the frontrunner with the most African American support

Your history of political analysis is terrible. You let your own personal feelings cloud objective reality, and it's hilarious how often you're proven wrong
 
Fogdog

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Padawanbater2 said:
Remember when you said that would be the end of his campaign?

Now he's the frontrunner with the most African American support

Your history of political analysis is terrible. You let your own personal feelings cloud objective reality, and it's hilarious how often you're proven wrong
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Yep, I do remember saying that was the end of his campaign. I did say and still think that his divisive, tone deaf and ignorant speech in Jackson Mississippi marked the end of his chances to win the nomination. I also recall saying that a Democrat cannot win without better support from black and Hispanic voters than he got in 2016. That's a fact, not a belief. That support hasn't materialized. Not yet. Nor has Bernie done anything to mend the bridges he's burned with Black voters. If they forgive him, it speaks volumes about their grace and ability to forgive.

You cite some poll but give no link to it. Doesn't really matter, as with most of the crap you cite, I'm pretty sure it's bs. The only poll that matters is the election poll.

Sanders placed second in Iowa and won NH (most likely), exactly the same start when he lost in 2016. Come back and crow after the primaries in the south are done. I fully expect you to cry about "rigged" after this is said and done.

As I've said all along, if Sanders wins, I'll vote for him in the fall. Does that sound like absolute conviction that I'm right about him losing? It's no fun to waffle and shade comments, so I put it out there. I think Sanders is going to lose. If I'm wrong, I'll vote for him. I already know you won't make the same pledge if Sanders loses to somebody else.
 
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hanimmal

hanimmal

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Fogdog said:
Yep, I do remember saying that was the end of his campaign. I did say and still think that his divisive, tone deaf and ignorant speech in Jackson Mississippi marked the end of his chances to win the nomination. I also recall saying that a Democrat cannot win without better support from black and Hispanic voters than he got in 2016. That's a fact, not a belief. That support hasn't materialized. Not yet.

You cite some poll but give no link to it. Doesn't really matter, as with most of the crap you cite, I'm pretty sure it's bs. The only poll that matters is the election poll.

Sanders placed second in Iowa and won NH (most likely), exactly the same start when he lost in 2016. Come back and crow after the primaries in the south are done. I fully expect you to cry about "rigged" after this is said and done.

As I've said all along, if Sanders wins, I'll vote for him in the fall. Does that sound like absolute conviction that I'm right about him losing? It's no fun to waffle and shade comments, so I put it out there. I think Sanders is going to lose. If I'm wrong, I'll vote for him. I already know you won't make the same pledge if Sanders loses to somebody else.
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If Sanders doesn't win by 20 points isn't that him losing ground?
 
Fogdog

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hanimmal said:
If Sanders doesn't win by 20 points isn't that him losing ground?
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could be. I know that Pad would claim something like that if the shoe were on the other foot. However, he is one of many this time around and a clear win is probably as good as a whopping large win when it was just him and Clinton. He does need a clear win to show he is even with where he started in his losing 2016 campaign. IMO.
 
Fogdog

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abandonconflict said:
So Bernie has 3 black supporters in South Carolina...

He should have his picture taken with them to convince us his policies are awesome.
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I think I saw picture of a woman in the audience too. He better get security out there to protect her from the Bernie Boys in the crowd.
 
ElfoodStampo

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hanimmal said:



I think his would be victims are still waiting for the phone call from Trump saying he is sorry for putting targets on them...
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Hey u need to ask me before you use my pictures on the internet . That's my favorite shirt.
Hey on a separate note, Andrew Yang just suspended his campaign. Looks like it might be mayor Pete!
 
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