Meijui Bar Light Question

J

jonnynobody

Well-Known Member
SnoopyDoo said:
Already have fans blowing the heat off my tree tops... Really I should have turned the lights down, but too late now. And what's the benefit of adding a light only to turn the wattage down???

The way I see it, I'll probably recoup my cost in bulbs and electricity in a year or two. If you think about it, over the life of the LED, it will pay for itself in bulbs, and electrical savings over that time is just icing on the cake. No more changing bulbs, get rid of the ducting, don't have to upgrade AC, reduced AC costs, more even lighting, keep the lights closer to the plants, etc. Plus my ballast are old, so there is a chance I would be replacing them before too long. With LED, I think I'm going to switch to a closed room and add CO2.

I've been doing this a while and I'd consider myself a pretty accomplished grower. I'm used to my tops looking like BKs, but right now mine are heat stressed. I'm finally starting to see LED grows that live up to the claims that the LED companies have been making for years (~same light output as HPS at ~70% the wattage). I've seen 2 grows using Gavitas and I like what I saw. BK is clearly killing it. It's good to redo the grow every-so-often and see what improvements can be made.
Click to expand...
I thoroughly agree with you on a couple of points. I use LED and HID in my flower room. The HID's require air cooled hoods, heavy duty inline fans, and a lot of fucking electricity to run it all. Not to mention the air conditioner. They kick out more heat so the a/c is kicking on more frequently. They do produce results, but the latest LED technology produces equivalent results when it's dialed in properly by an experienced gardener. As my HID ballasts fail one by one the lights will be replaced by LED units. It costs around $600/month to operate my garden in monthly electric costs. If I can reduce that by even 25% by switching to LED that's $1800/year in savings and that's being very modest. HID is a tough sell these days in my opinion, but different strokes for different folks. Some people love the DE Gavitas. They're great at growing great pot and generating obscene electric bills.
 
J

jonnynobody

Well-Known Member
SnoopyDoo said:
Everybody is buying Chinese goods - they make everything, so we have no choice. Even stuff that's made in the US is often really made in China. That said, I'm glad Trump started a trade war - it's not cool to give the 2nd biggest economy unfettered access to our economy when they refuse to open theirs up to US.
Click to expand...
I don't mind our elected leaders discussing and examining trade policy with China. I think it's a great idea. I just wish someone competent was leading the conversation. Regardless of politics I don't think anyone will ever refer to Trump as intelligent. Regardless of political party I hope our elected leaders unite to carefully and strategically deal with China moving forward to address problems with their trade practices and currency manipulation.
 
bk78

bk78

Well-Known Member
jonnynobody said:
That meiju 650 is a sexy looking piece of hardware. Strips on bars do a much better job of spreading light over the canopy than quantum boards. There's nothing wrong with quantum boards. Light bars are simply a better method of distributing the light evenly over a larger area. I'm gonna check out your journal this afternoon. Those are some great looking colas in the pictures you posted.
Click to expand...
Tell me more master grower.
 
Doug Dawson

Doug Dawson

Well-Known Member
LOL, well OP you got more than you bargained for here. All you asked about was info on Meijiu lights and I, an HLG owner by the way lol, told you to check out BK as he is killing it with those lights. Than somehow into the toilet things went. Hope you can get the info you wanted on here without having to wade too far through this mess.
 
SnoopyDoo

SnoopyDoo

Well-Known Member
mistergrafik said:
If someone has had many successful HPS grows they would have pictures.
Click to expand...
mistergrafik said:
From quality HPS bulbs that have been used with success for countable years to a new LED Chinese manufacture taking second hand Samsung diodes. There is a difference yes. I would like to see the difference.

Unlike you I talk to these suppliers every single day.
Click to expand...
I'm not sure what your problem is. I didn't come on here to prove anything or provide the world with bud porn. I'm just trying to get some last bits of info before I pull the trigger on some lamps. If you're in need of picture evidence of how these lights work, then BK has a journal with tons of pics. Hell even if I had pics, pics don't tell the full story since there still could be decline in density or quality that the pics don't reveal. The strain could have changed.

If the performance of these different lights is of such concern to you, buy them an do a side by side run.

Furthermore, you can't attribute any change to a single variable since there will be multiple variables at play. ie temps will drop, I may add CO2. My buddy that switched to Gavita LEDs is doing much better, but he was having the same problem I'm having now - heat stress. I highly doubt his garden looks better because of the Gavitas, it looks better because of temps. I'm not trying to improve upon what I have done with HPS, I'm not trying to prove LEDs are the wave of the future, I'm not trying to prove Meijuis are just as good as Gavitas. I'm just trying to get some info and eliminate my heat stress issue.
 
mistergrafik

mistergrafik

Well-Known Member
SnoopyDoo said:
I'm not sure what your problem is. I didn't come on here to prove anything or provide the world with bud porn. I'm just trying to get some last bits of info before I pull the trigger on some lamps. If you're in need of picture evidence of how these lights work, then BK has a journal with tons of pics. Hell even if I had pics, pics don't tell the full story since there still could be decline in density or quality that the pics don't reveal. The strain could have changed.

If the performance of these different lights is of such concern to you, buy them an do a side by side run.

Furthermore, you can't attribute any change to a single variable since there will be multiple variables at play. ie temps will drop, I may add CO2. My buddy that switched to Gavita LEDs is doing much better, but he was having the same problem I'm having now - heat stress. I highly doubt his garden looks better because of the Gavitas, it looks better because of temps. I'm not trying to improve upon what I have done with HPS, I'm not trying to prove LEDs are the wave of the future, I'm not trying to prove Meijuis are just as good as Gavitas. I'm just trying to get some info and eliminate my heat stress issue.
Click to expand...
No pics? No problem - if you're switching it would be cool to provide pics from both, que no? Only reason I asked. Then again it does boil back down to the farmer.

I don't use LED. Many people do and more power to them - No pun intended. I've seen rooms full of HPS bulbs and no heat stress. That's why I suggested maybe for now just better circulation :eyesmoke:
 
J

jonnynobody

Well-Known Member
SnoopyDoo said:
I'm not sure what your problem is. I didn't come on here to prove anything or provide the world with bud porn. I'm just trying to get some last bits of info before I pull the trigger on some lamps. If you're in need of picture evidence of how these lights work, then BK has a journal with tons of pics. Hell even if I had pics, pics don't tell the full story since there still could be decline in density or quality that the pics don't reveal. The strain could have changed.

If the performance of these different lights is of such concern to you, buy them an do a side by side run.

Furthermore, you can't attribute any change to a single variable since there will be multiple variables at play. ie temps will drop, I may add CO2. My buddy that switched to Gavita LEDs is doing much better, but he was having the same problem I'm having now - heat stress. I highly doubt his garden looks better because of the Gavitas, it looks better because of temps. I'm not trying to improve upon what I have done with HPS, I'm not trying to prove LEDs are the wave of the future, I'm not trying to prove Meijuis are just as good as Gavitas. I'm just trying to get some info and eliminate my heat stress issue.
Click to expand...
Dammit I don't care what people say about you. You're alright. Dude was a Catholic alter boy that got a settlement. All I'm saying is cut him some slack. He means well but his mind is clouded by the years of forceful anal penetration.
 
SnoopyDoo

SnoopyDoo

Well-Known Member
mistergrafik said:
This thread is pretty useless. Pretty sure it's a Meuiju Promo
Click to expand...
Yeah, it is pretty useless. I had a couple questions and instead of answers, it turns into a pissing match. In the past I've found forums are usually a pretty good source for info from people in the know. Maybe this forum is the exception that proves the rule. I can only imagine what would have happened if I asked about switching to Advanced from GH. That said you can shit on Meijui lights all you want, but BK78s Shit Show is about as convincing as it gets via the intrawebz. If you don't have any compelling reason or evidence not to buy these lights, you really don't have much to contribute do you?
 
rkymtnman

rkymtnman

Well-Known Member
SnoopyDoo said:
If you don't have any compelling reason or evidence
Click to expand...
only thing i would ask is what is the warranty on each? and what is the procedure to get warranty work done? does it involve shipping unit back to China? is the Meiju UL rated?
 
mistergrafik

mistergrafik

Well-Known Member
SnoopyDoo said:
Yeah, it is pretty useless. I had a couple questions and instead of answers, it turns into a pissing match. In the past I've found forums are usually a pretty good source for info from people in the know. Maybe this forum is the exception that proves the rule. I can only imagine what would have happened if I asked about switching to Advanced from GH. That said you can shit on Meijui lights all you want, but BK78s Shit Show is about as convincing as it gets via the intrawebz. If you don't have any compelling reason or evidence not to buy these lights, you really don't have much to contribute do you?
Click to expand...
Sounds like u have the problem? I never said anything bad about Meijui lights. I fail to see the pissing match. U R the one that said you've had lots of success with HPS but are switching - If you don't have any pictures that's cool don't be so mad about it.

I literally wanted you to buy the lights. Weird.
 
SnoopyDoo

SnoopyDoo

Well-Known Member
mistergrafik said:
No pics? No problem - if you're switching it would be cool to provide pics from both, que no? Only reason I asked. Then again it does boil back down to the farmer.

I don't use LED. Many people do and more power to them - No pun intended. I've seen rooms full of HPS bulbs and no heat stress. That's why I suggested maybe for now just better circulation :eyesmoke:
Click to expand...
Like I said I've been this for a very long time. Usually have things dialed in, but I got some free lamps and over reached. Took a look at the grow and decided it's time to change things up a little. IMHO, it's fun to change it up. I've done numerous different ebb and flow systems, DWC, used every kind of media, used numerous nute line ups, etc. Now it's time for LEDs.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top