Melbourne GG4 Balcony Grow

Sigourney_GG4 · Jan 16, 2023

17th Jan - watering morning and night now. Feeding light Veg food and using the root/soil booster Seasol (seaweed).
Did a last big defoliation and cleared out the middle and lower sections.
Still blasting leaves, stems and soil with Neem and I’m pretty sure I’ve killed all the Mealybugs.
Girls are looking tall and fat and the weather has been sunny and either hot or fuckin hot…they love it.

bursto · Jan 16, 2023

seasol is as bad as powerfeed imo
it should help tho if thats all you got

im just not big on seasol or powerfeed, when ive used them it has made the weed harsh to smoke so i stopped using them

bursto · Jan 17, 2023

here is a pic of my outdoor :weed:

close up

you have to hold off giving it flower/potash etc. until it has finished about 3 weeks of stretching

its not to late get the eco seaweed, you'll see the difference in a few days

Sigourney_GG4 · Jan 17, 2023

bursto said:
here is a pic of my outdoor close upView attachment 5249690
you have to hold off giving it flower/potash etc. until it has finished about 3 weeks of stretching

its not to late get the eco seaweed, you'll see the difference in a few days

Looks good, I’m not far off that!

bursto · Jan 17, 2023

Sigourney_GG4 said:
Looks good, I’m not far off that!

seasol and powerfeed, are high n salts, the eco seaweed you mix yourself, its a better quality seaweed

Super economical with 600g treating up to 6,600m2
100% seaweed extract containing very high levels of vitamins, antioxidants and other bio-stimulants
High potassium levels (12%) to enhance plant health and flowering/fruit production
Approved for use in organic gardens by Australian Certified Organic (ACO)
Why pay for water? Choose a powdered seaweed extract instead

OCP eco-seaweed is a registered organic powdered seaweed extract used to stimulate many plant activities like improved growth, flowering and fruiting and enhanced root development. It also enhances the plant's ability to cope with various stresses including drought, salty soils, and the cold.

Extremely concentrated, OCP eco-seaweed is a 100% seaweed extract containing very high levels of vitamins, antioxidants and other biostimulants. It dissolves completely in water and can be applied via a watering can to the soil or in a sprayer as a foliage spray. It contains no nasty preservatives and this 600g pack treats up to 6,600m2.

it dont bother me what you use, just sayng this is better than seasol

ps if you do use it only half of the measuring spoon per 9l watering can

Sigourney_GG4 · Jan 18, 2023

bursto said:
seasol and powerfeed, are high n salts, the eco seaweed you mix yourself, its a better quality seaweed

Super economical with 600g treating up to 6,600m2

100% seaweed extract containing very high levels of vitamins, antioxidants and other bio-stimulants

High potassium levels (12%) to enhance plant health and flowering/fruit production

Approved for use in organic gardens by Australian Certified Organic (ACO)

Why pay for water? Choose a powdered seaweed extract instead

OCP eco-seaweed is a registered organic powdered seaweed extract used to stimulate many plant activities like improved growth, flowering and fruiting and enhanced root development. It also enhances the plant's ability to cope with various stresses including drought, salty soils, and the cold.

Extremely concentrated, OCP eco-seaweed is a 100% seaweed extract containing very high levels of vitamins, antioxidants and other biostimulants. It dissolves completely in water and can be applied via a watering can to the soil or in a sprayer as a foliage spray. It contains no nasty preservatives and this 600g pack treats up to 6,600m2.

it dont bother me what you use, just sayng this is better than seasol

ps if you do use it only half of the measuring spoon per 9l watering can

Thanks mate, I’ll pick some up tomorrow and switch…they are all affordable so I’d rather take your advice rather than stick with what I have. Appreciate your help! To be clear, your advising I use the Eco product over the liquid potash I have?

f.r · Jan 18, 2023

bursto said:
seasol and powerfeed, are high n salts, the eco seaweed you mix yourself, its a better quality seaweed

Super economical with 600g treating up to 6,600m2

100% seaweed extract containing very high levels of vitamins, antioxidants and other bio-stimulants

High potassium levels (12%) to enhance plant health and flowering/fruit production

Approved for use in organic gardens by Australian Certified Organic (ACO)

Why pay for water? Choose a powdered seaweed extract instead

OCP eco-seaweed is a registered organic powdered seaweed extract used to stimulate many plant activities like improved growth, flowering and fruiting and enhanced root development. It also enhances the plant's ability to cope with various stresses including drought, salty soils, and the cold.

Extremely concentrated, OCP eco-seaweed is a 100% seaweed extract containing very high levels of vitamins, antioxidants and other biostimulants. It dissolves completely in water and can be applied via a watering can to the soil or in a sprayer as a foliage spray. It contains no nasty preservatives and this 600g pack treats up to 6,600m2.

it dont bother me what you use, just sayng this is better than seasol

ps if you do use it only half of the measuring spoon per 9l watering can

They are both alkaline extractions of different species. hence the High K levels and high ph levels as that extraction process the end product needs to be mixed with potassium hydroxide to stay stable.

OCP is just arcadian seaweed concentrate repackaged and not screened as finely. Good stuff will have higher hormone content, whereas seasol will most likely have higher alganic acid content which will help moisture retention and generally help building soil as it's mixed with bull kelp species.

In general be careful with all seaweed products don't over do it they all have high sodium levels as well as high heavy metal levels.

bursto · Jan 18, 2023

Sigourney_GG4 said:
Thanks mate, I’ll pick some up tomorrow and switch…they are all affordable so I’d rather take your advice rather than stick with what I have. Appreciate your help! To be clear, your advising I use the Eco product over the liquid potash I have?

thats the one i like, you'll see just give it a go
you can use the potash just give it the eco for a week or two more

Sigourney_GG4 · Jan 18, 2023

Only used Seasol once and wasn’t planning on using more…it was just for general soil and root health.
What I’m interested in now is flowering nutrients as there’s only 2 more weeks before the stretch stops and I switch.
I have liquid potash N-0. P-4. K-20 (pic below) and believe that’s all I need for the flowering stage (I may be wrong).
The girls are super healthy and primed for flower!

buckaclark · Jan 19, 2023

I would expect them to double in size.You are doing a great job!

Budzbuddha · Jan 19, 2023

Lookin good. :weed:

bursto · Jan 19, 2023

dude do you have a ph test kit

FLAIRFORM pH Test Kit 30ml

When using a pH Test Kit you will get accurate results every time. Even if electronic pH meters are properly maintained, they are still susceptible to error because lower quality electrodes respond to foreign 'species' (e.g. sodium). For this reason, if using an electronic pH meter, occasionally...

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Sigourney_GG4 · Jan 19, 2023

bursto said:
dude do you have a ph test kit

FLAIRFORM pH Test Kit 30ml

When using a pH Test Kit you will get accurate results every time. Even if electronic pH meters are properly maintained, they are still susceptible to error because lower quality electrodes respond to foreign 'species' (e.g. sodium). For this reason, if using an electronic pH meter, occasionally...

hempculture.com.au

Just purchased it, thanks Bursto. I’ve read MJ tolerates a wide pH range. Melbourne water is excellent and stands close to 7.0. So now I’m researching what to do if I’m under or over. Thanks again…love new toys!

bursto · Jan 19, 2023

Sigourney_GG4 said:
Just purchased it, thanks Bursto. I’ve read MJ tolerates a wide pH range. Melbourne water is excellent and stands close to 7.0. So now I’m researching what to do if I’m under or over. Thanks again…love new toys!

Tap water, i remember those days, :spew:

before i got a rain tank

i check the ph before i start, then add your nutes and see the difference each time, after a while you'll know how it get it right, 5.5-6.0 is good
did you get the eco seaweed?

the seaweed raises ph, but dont worry to much about ph, its just good to know before you tip water on your plant what its ph is, if its to Acidic so a low ph can be bad

Sigourney_GG4 · Jan 19, 2023

bursto said:
Tap water, i remember those days,

i check the ph before i start, then add your nutes and see the difference each time, after a while you'll know how it get it right, 5.5-6.0 is good
did you get the eco seaweed?

the seaweed raises ph, but dont worry to much about ph, its just good to know before you tip water on your plant what its ph is, if its to Acidic so a low ph can be bad

Sounds good. And I didn’t get the eco…to close to switching to flower nutes, I’m happy to spend money when needed but $35 for 2 or 3 feeds is not good value for me at the moment. Will use for next grow…if I grow again.

bursto · Jan 19, 2023

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Sigourney_GG4 said:
Sounds good. And I didn’t get the eco…to close to switching to flower nutes, I’m happy to spend money when needed but $35 for 2 or 3 feeds is not good value for me at the moment. Will use for next grow…if I grow again.

all good broski you can lead a horse to water...(id give the eco for a month more)

i know what you saying about the 35 bucks tho, but its worth it
plus i use it on all my other trees n stuff its handy

until you try your way you wont know what things worked for you

Sigourney_GG4 · Jan 21, 2023

Hight issue creeping up again. Plants are 1.25 meters (50 inches) high from the soil…and only 25cm (10 inches) from screen height.
Can’t suppercrop anymore now and the tall leading branches are impossible to tie down more than they are.
I can see only one option once or if they hit screen height and that’s to move them back from the screen so they can’t be seen from below. This will limit sunlight for hours but it’s better than having a bunch of branches towering over the screen.
GG4 aren’t meant to stretch much so I may be lucky and they will slow or stop before screen height but they seem to pack on a few cm (1 inch) daily.

buckaclark · Jan 21, 2023

You could supercrop the tops back across the supports and tie them down.This may cause you to clip out the small lower center branches etc.Also could pinch out any growing tips that are taller.They typically stretch when flowers start developing.GL

Sigourney_GG4 · Jan 21, 2023

buckaclark said:
You could supercrop the tops back across the supports and tie them down.This may cause you to clip out the small lower center branches etc.Also could pinch out any growing tips that are taller.They typically stretch when flowers start developing.GL

The lower centre branches always look shit in pics but I recon they will yield heaps in the end, they’ve all been supercroped twice and are growing and fattening fast.
I did some math and think I may be ok. If they put on 3cm a day for the next 10 days of remaining stretch I can manage the branches that are 5cm taller than the screen.
All in all it’s a great problem to have, certainly better than a bug or nutrient issue.
Every morning I put on a gimp suit and do a bondage session with the girls!

buckaclark · Jan 21, 2023

You could move them to the less light area to slow them a bit,and possibly help them roll into flower.I expect 30+ more inches of growth,imo.

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