Michigan Growers Tell Your Plans for This Year

james42

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Sweet James! Did you go with some castings too?

If you're looking for some great one part veg and flowering nutrients check out Dr. Earth Life and Dr. Earth 745. They run about 50 bucks for 25 lbs. Might be cheaper and you may like it better. personally, I love it for my indoor plants.
I didn't get any castings. I want to but the cost and time to pack it in just isn't possible right now. Between work and kids its been tough to get what I want done.
Ill check out them ferts. Nothing is set in stone yet.
 

Shwagbag

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I didn't get any castings. I want to but the cost and time to pack it in just isn't possible right now. Between work and kids its been tough to get what I want done.
Ill check out them ferts. Nothing is set in stone yet.
I understand James! We all have priorities. Bravo on your hard work to be prepared for the next step. The Dr. earth might be more economical compared to FF.
 

Sailor Jerry

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Ive got a bag of that Dr Earth Life for this years guerilla crop.

Schwagbag, have you used the Dr earth life and bloom food on mj before? If so, how did you use it and how much? I'd like to be able to mix some of the 5-5-5 and a little of the bloom with the local dirt and then come back periodically and top dress some fertilizer back in as the season progresses. Im planning on digging holes that are about 3 feet across and 2 feet deep.


In other news, I picked up a couple 100 gallon smart pots last week and Im going use supersoil in them. I bought a couple packs of super soil ammendments pre mixed from ebay and they include:

2.5lbs Blood Meal 13.6-0-0
2.5 lbs Steamed Bone Meal 1-25-0
2.5lbs Bat Guano 0-12-1
2.0 lbs Pot Ash 0-0-50
0.5lbs Azomite (70+ Trace Elements)
1/4 Cup Powdered Humic Acid
1 Cup Epsom Salt- Magnesium Sulphate
1 Cup Dolomite-49% Calcium Carbonate 36% Magnesium Carbonate
1/2 Cup Mycorrhizal Fungi

You're supposed to mix this with 4 Bags (1.5 Cu/Ft) of quality potting soil. and 50 lbs of EWC. Its supposed to come out to about 6 cubic feet. The batch I made earlier today made two 32 gallon trash cans nearly full of soil.

I used FF Ocean Forest for one batch of super soil and I Might try that Miracle grow Organic soil with the other bunch of ammendments to see if Its worth the $20 for the FFOF or if i can get away with cheaper dirt for outdoor growing in containers.

Since I havent been able to find a reliable cheap source of EWC up in the YOOP(or north of gaylord) I decided to mix in a bag and a half 50 lbs) of composted cow manure inplace of the EWC my super soil recipe calls for.

Ill be putting the 100 gallon smart pots on top of pallets so the get lots of good air flow around the pots.
 

Shwagbag

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Ive got a bag of that Dr Earth Life for this years guerilla crop.

Schwagbag, have you used the Dr earth life and bloom food on mj before? If so, how did you use it and how much? I'd like to be able to mix some of the 5-5-5 and a little of the bloom with the local dirt and then come back periodically and top dress some fertilizer back in as the season progresses. Im planning on digging holes that are about 3 feet across and 2 feet deep.


In other news, I picked up a couple 100 gallon smart pots last week and Im going use supersoil in them. I bought a couple packs of super soil ammendments pre mixed from ebay and they include:

2.5lbs Blood Meal 13.6-0-0
2.5 lbs Steamed Bone Meal 1-25-0
2.5lbs Bat Guano 0-12-1
2.0 lbs Pot Ash 0-0-50
0.5lbs Azomite (70+ Trace Elements)
1/4 Cup Powdered Humic Acid
1 Cup Epsom Salt- Magnesium Sulphate
1 Cup Dolomite-49% Calcium Carbonate 36% Magnesium Carbonate
1/2 Cup Mycorrhizal Fungi

You're supposed to mix this with 4 Bags (1.5 Cu/Ft) of quality potting soil. and 50 lbs of EWC. Its supposed to come out to about 6 cubic feet. The batch I made earlier today made two 32 gallon trash cans nearly full of soil.

I used FF Ocean Forest for one batch of super soil and I Might try that Miracle grow Organic soil with the other bunch of ammendments to see if Its worth the $20 for the FFOF or if i can get away with cheaper dirt for outdoor growing in containers.

Since I havent been able to find a reliable cheap source of EWC up in the YOOP(or north of gaylord) I decided to mix in a bag and a half 50 lbs) of composted cow manure inplace of the EWC my super soil recipe calls for.

Ill be putting the 100 gallon smart pots on top of pallets so the get lots of good air flow around the pots.
Hey Jerry, this mix sounds great!

I currently use Subcool's mix and its worked well for me for a couple of years doing indoor. I use the Dr. Earth Life for my vegging plants in pro-mix as a top dressing application, and they love it. I also use the 745 bud and bloom organic 8 for flowering plants as a top dressing, usually 1 cup per 8 gallon, and usually after the 3-4 week mark of flower. I also just started to use the bud and bloom in compost teas and my flowering plants are very happy. Good news for me because I got a little lazy in the grow room and my diligence is finally paying off.

If you're considering the Dr. Earth for topdressing I can testify that I think the results are very good using a soil mix VERY close to yours.

That mix will come out to more than 6 cubic feet because you're using 6 cubic feet of soil as a base. Everything else is adding volume to that. I usually get about 100 gallons of mix to a full 8 bag subcool mix though, 32 gallons x 3 filled to the rim. The composted cow manure should be a fine substitute for the EWC, and overall I really like the looks of your mix! I'm actually in the process of working out a mix with the Dr. Earth fertilizer mixes. I'm not sure what amounts to use just yet, it will be trial and error to start with.

I would recommend more humic acid, more azomite and some added kelp meal. Honestly the addition of kelp meal would probably make that mix sweet ass sweet. Kelp meal and humic acid are garden gold for the microbiology! I'm guessing your composted manure is loaded with humic acid too though. If you're planning on vegging for a good while in the mix, I think you may need some more N either during veg or flower. Some more composted manure of the Dr. Earth Life would probably work fine for that. This mix in 100 gallon containers will make some very nice trees for you! But if its your fist time using it outdoor I would keep an eye on them if you can.

My next mix will be base soil + mostly Dr. Earth bud and bloom and Epsoma Tomato Tone. There will be plenty of other additives, but mostly for microbiology, micro nutrients and diversity.
 

Green Dave

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What do you use for soil dave?
James
i will be amending the native soil with Shultz compost&manure along with castings, the Pinewarp requires less frets then most and money is tight this year.
i also have advance HH left from last year so all the girls will be eating well
i hope I won't compromise my harvest by going lite on soil .we will see
 

Corso312

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This weather blows ...itching bad to put pots on patio n free up space indoors ...gonna dig some holes today at one patch n hope my shovel n buckets are there from last fall.
 

james42

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I took all my plants outside for some sun today. It was a bitch cramming them back into my little grow space.
In a couple weeks ill have no choice but to make a makeshift greenhouse and put the Iranian autos outside.
It was kinda crazy seeing all 24 plants spread out outside. I hope I'm not getting too greedy this year
 

tcmike

Active Member
Wish I could get out & prep my holes from last year but the ground is still way to cold & wet to dig where I'm at. Still had snow till last week. Far cry from the goofey spring we had last year.
JAMES- How much of the water crystals did you add to your holes last year? Was thinking of trying some since I have to creep into my spots to check them & it's tough to haul more than a couple of gallon jugs of water. They usually have to just tough it out with the moisture in the ground since I only check them 3 or 4 times after they are in the dirt.
 

james42

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Last year I put about a half cup in each hole. It seemed to work good. I don't think you need a ton of it for it to do its job
 

james42

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Got my 156 gallon collapsible rain barrels delivered yesterday. I put them together while wearing gloves. I'm being extra careful not to leave finger prints on anything that's staying in the woods this year.
These thing are the best investment I've ever made. No more lugging 5gallon buckets of water 2 miles in the summer heat.
 

james42

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So wat are the dimension of those? You have to dig a massive hole?
Its a little over 4' tall 3' wide.
I'm setting it up in some really thick brush for camo on a little bit higher ground so I can fill buckets off the hose.
I don't think it will be too hard to hide these things. There green wich helps
 

Corso312

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Loving this weather, anyone try that super soil from htg supply? Thinking bout grabbing some for a set em n 4get em spot ..just need to hit em with Ph water start to finish. This Jilly bean is looking like an outdoor drea
 

bigcarty24

Active Member
Hey there Michigan growers... I haven't been back on rollitup.org for a year now. lol. But IAM BACK. I am a Ontario neighbour and would like to post my outdoor grow along side yours this year. I will be following and posting three medical controlled grows this year... and am excited to show my journey. I will be growing all my girls in 100g smartpots with TGA's supersoil mix. Jst thought I'd throw a quick post up.... letting everybody know whats up...
Ill be growing Bluebarry X Fire OG, Timewreck (3 phenos), GreenCrack, Plushberry and trying my quick finishing RippedBubba.

Thanks guys.
Peace and safe growing
 

james42

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Hey there Michigan growers... I haven't been back on rollitup.org for a year now. lol. But IAM BACK. I am a Ontario neighbour and would like to post my outdoor grow along side yours this year. I will be following and posting three medical controlled grows this year... and am excited to show my journey. I will be growing all my girls in 100g smartpots with TGA's supersoil mix. Jst thought I'd throw a quick post up.... letting everybody know whats up...
Ill be growing Bluebarry X Fire OG, Timewreck (3 phenos), GreenCrack, Plushberry and trying my quick finishing RippedBubba.

Thanks guys.
Peace and safe growing
Cool man. Looking forward to seeing your grow.
I go ice fishing every winter in Ontario. I love it up there
 
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