Milk, it may be good for you but it was a disaster to my plants!

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Okiedust49

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For the first time in decades of growing I've been dealing with leaf spot fungus this year. I have been using Copper octanoate 10% (copper soap) 4 tbsp./gal water with some success. I'm in my fourth week of flower and thought that maybe I should back off the copper and use something "milder" on my buds. I have been reading on some forums that some growers have been using milk as a fungicide. Supposedly the protein in milk reacts with the UV sun light which releases free radicals which kill the fungal spores. Most said to dilute with water in 40% to 50% and one said to use it full strength for a stronger effect. Well, I thoroughly sprayed my plants with full strength before sunrise. The pictures are five days apart. Some of my plants weren't hurt as bad and will probably survive. I've learned my lesson the hard way.
 

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Dog Star

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Okiedust49 said:
For the first time in decades of growing I've been dealing with leaf spot fungus this year. I have been using Copper octanoate 10% (copper soap) 4 tbsp./gal water with some success. I'm in my fourth week of flower and thought that maybe I should back off the copper and use something "milder" on my buds. I have been reading on some forums that some growers have been using milk as a fungicide. Supposedly the protein in milk reacts with the UV sun light which releases free radicals which kill the fungal spores. Most said to dilute with water in 40% to 50% and one said to use it full strength for a stronger effect. Well, I thoroughly sprayed my plants with full strength before sunrise. The pictures are five days apart. Some of my plants weren't hurt as bad and will probably survive. I've learned my lesson the hard way.
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Next time use Horstail tea for treating your plants against funghal diseases...

also pure milk to give is not good,am hurd for 10% milk in 90% of water,
you could also use Potassium Bicarbonate as it also exchange PH of surface
of the leaf so fungus cant grow and dissapear..

But best choice is Horstail tea,3 days in row spraying hole plant,you can do that in late
flowering and will not made you mould of any kind,it will just protect your plants in
total organic way..
 
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Okiedust49

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Dog Star said:
Next time use Horstail tea for treating your plants against funghal diseases...

also pure milk to give is not good,am hurd for 10% milk in 90% of water,
you could also use Potassium Bicarbonate as it also exchange PH of surface
of the leaf so fungus cant grow and dissapear..

But best choice is Horstail tea,3 days in row spraying hole plant,you can do that in late
flowering and will not made you mould of any kind,it will just protect your plants in
total organic way..
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I'm a bit hesitant spraying anything on them after my milk fiasco. If my fungus problem gets out of hand I'll probably have to treat again with something. I have some potassium bicarbonate but have not tried it yet. I read a post that one tablespoonful/gallon of water caused the pistils to turn brown. Have you used horsetail on your plants? I see the tea is made with one teaspoonful of the horsetail brewed in 8 ounces of water. Is that how you make it? Really nervous about using anything right now.
 
Dog Star

Dog Star

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Dont be a pussy.. am organic grower for more than 10 years,growing since 2000 active..

and Horstail is best antifunghal remedy that exist on Earth,Biodynamics are discipline that made
it famous..

Tea you made with 150 gram of fresh or 30 gram of dry Horstail,live on soak in 1.5 liter of cold water
for 24 hours.. then cook it till it starts to boil,then lower temp that tea simmering easy for 20 minutes
on easy fire... then put away so tea get cold on room temperature,mix this tea 1:1 with water
or you can use it pure..(it will not fuck your plants like milk)..

Spray hole plant,leafes,branches,stalk,from leafes up than going down till a base of stalk
good soaking all surfaces that plant posest.. use 3 days in row... keep rest of your
tea in fridge so he dont ferment if something left after spraying.. but you can made
also every day new batch..


P.S.--- Its definitly your mistake as you used pure milk,its retarded to work on his own way if you
dont know "rules" or how to apply some remedy.. dont question skills of people you dont know,
that will be good advice for you.. am will never come in thread give advice if i dont feel 100%
sure in knowledge i possest... definitly i used it and it saved mine clones and big plants..

Also Google a bit on Horstail,i dont need you belive me.. belive in what other people have to
say on Horstail as anti-funghal remedy..
 
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Okiedust49

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hotrodharley said:
Spraying buds with anything is not recommended. Even misting with water is not advisable.
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Dog Star said:
Dont be a pussy.. am organic grower for more than 10 years,growing since 2000 active..

and Horstail is best antifunghal remedy that exist on Earth,Biodynamics are discipline that made
it famous..

Tea you made with 150 gram of fresh or 30 gram of dry Horstail,live on soak in 1.5 liter of cold water
for 24 hours.. then cook it till it starts to boil,then lower temp that tea simmering easy for 20 minutes
on easy fire... then put away so tea get cold on room temperature,mix this tea 1:1 with water
or you can use it pure..(it will not fuck your plants like milk)..

Spray hole plant,leafes,branches,stalk,from leafes up than going down till a base of stalk
good soaking all surfaces that plant posest.. use 3 days in row... keep rest of your
tea in fridge so he dont ferment if something left after spraying.. but you can made
also every day new batch..


P.S.--- Its definitly your mistake as you used pure milk,its retarded to work on his own way if you
dont know "rules" or how to apply some remedy.. dont question skills of people you dont know,
that will be good advice for you.. am will never come in thread give advice if i dont feel 100%
sure in knowledge i possest... definitly i used it and it saved mine clones and big plants..

Also Google a bit on Horstail,i dont need you belive me.. belive in what other people have to
say on Horstail as anti-funghal remedy..
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Thanks for the info Dog Star. I'm not doubting you a bit. I'll be ordering some Horsetail today. I just wanted to know how you made the tea.
 
Dog Star

Dog Star

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No probs bro... am hope am explained it well.. and never ever use milk for that job as Horstail is main
anti-funghal remedy and will give your plants extra silicates and even protection against spidermites,
thrips and aphids as they have soft mouth so they have problems to feed on plants that are treated
with Horstail tea...

Also made your homework with Googling and learning from other what they say on these plant..
she even good for us humans as tea as we also need silicates and it helps with kidneys and
better urethra health..

multifunctional and multipurpose plant same as Cannabis or Stinnging Nettle..
 
CanadianJim

CanadianJim

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Okiedust49 said:
I'm a bit hesitant spraying anything on them after my milk fiasco. If my fungus problem gets out of hand I'll probably have to treat again with something. I have some potassium bicarbonate but have not tried it yet. I read a post that one tablespoonful/gallon of water caused the pistils to turn brown. Have you used horsetail on your plants? I see the tea is made with one teaspoonful of the horsetail brewed in 8 ounces of water. Is that how you make it? Really nervous about using anything right now.
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Full strength potassium bicarbonate will turn your pistils brown, but the new ones that grow as she flowers won't be affected. Some guys also dilute it to half or one quarter strength, but I don't know if that changes it's efficacy.
I'll be looking into the horsetail tea as well. Always good to have options, especially as I don't know if I'll have to dial down the potassium in my feedings when spraying with the potassium bicarbonate. Does it act as a foliar feeding?
 
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Okiedust49

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CanadianJim said:
Full strength potassium bicarbonate will turn your pistils brown, but the new ones that grow as she flowers won't be affected. Some guys also dilute it to half or one quarter strength, but I don't know if that changes it's efficacy.
I'll be looking into the horsetail tea as well. Always good to have options, especially as I don't know if I'll have to dial down the potassium in my feedings when spraying with the potassium bicarbonate. Does it act as a foliar feeding?
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If needed, I had planned to try the potassium bicarbonate next but after learning about the horsetail it may be my next treatment. My problem with the horsetail is that I only get out to my plants once weekly and the horsetail is recommended to be used three consecutive days weekly.
I have not seen any info on using KHCO3 for foliar feeding so I'm of no help there.
 
CanadianJim

CanadianJim

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Okiedust49 said:
If needed, I had planned to try the potassium bicarbonate next but after learning about the horsetail it may be my next treatment. My problem with the horsetail is that I only get out to my plants once weekly and the horsetail is recommended to be used three consecutive days weekly.
I have not seen any info on using KHCO3 for foliar feeding so I'm of no help there.
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I think someone mentioned getting a potassium excess after using it, but I haven't been able to find the post. I may have just been high and thought I read it.
All the info I have on pb says to use it once a week to every ten days, so you would be good there. Do you have just straight pb or is it something like Green Cure? Just wondering what you'd be using as a sticking agent if it's straight pb. I'm leaning towards a little vegetable oil and some Safer's insecticidal soap. Got to get rid of those damn leafhoppers.
 
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Okiedust49

Member
CanadianJim said:
I think someone mentioned getting a potassium excess after using it, but I haven't been able to find the post. I may have just been high and thought I read it.
All the info I have on pb says to use it once a week to every ten days, so you would be good there. Do you have just straight pb or is it something like Green Cure? Just wondering what you'd be using as a sticking agent if it's straight pb. I'm leaning towards a little vegetable oil and some Safer's insecticidal soap. Got to get rid of those damn leafhoppers.
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It's not a brand like Green Cure, just pb which I purchased from Amazon. The original recipe I had planned to use was pb 1 tbsp. with 1 tbsp. of vegetable oil. After hearing of the brown pistils I would probably go with 1 tsp of the pb and go from there.
 
CanadianJim

CanadianJim

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Yeah. I got brown pistils the first time I used it, also straight pb from amazon lol, with olive oil. I got rid of my powdery mildew though.
 
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mr. childs

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Dog Star said:
Dont be a pussy.. am organic grower for more than 10 years,growing since 2000 active..

and Horstail is best antifunghal remedy that exist on Earth,Biodynamics are discipline that made
it famous..

Tea you made with 150 gram of fresh or 30 gram of dry Horstail,live on soak in 1.5 liter of cold water
for 24 hours.. then cook it till it starts to boil,then lower temp that tea simmering easy for 20 minutes
on easy fire... then put away so tea get cold on room temperature,mix this tea 1:1 with water
or you can use it pure..(it will not fuck your plants like milk)..

Spray hole plant,leafes,branches,stalk,from leafes up than going down till a base of stalk
good soaking all surfaces that plant posest.. use 3 days in row... keep rest of your
tea in fridge so he dont ferment if something left after spraying.. but you can made
also every day new batch..


P.S.--- Its definitly your mistake as you used pure milk,its retarded to work on his own way if you
dont know "rules" or how to apply some remedy.. dont question skills of people you dont know,
that will be good advice for you.. am will never come in thread give advice if i dont feel 100%
sure in knowledge i possest... definitly i used it and it saved mine clones and big plants..

Also Google a bit on Horstail,i dont need you belive me.. belive in what other people have to
say on Horstail as anti-funghal remedy..
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horsetail fpe is also a good source of silica
 
CanadianJim

CanadianJim

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No, THC is produced in the trichomes, and they weren't damaged. As the plant grew she just got frostier and frostier. I just had some of the result, and it's plenty potent. The calyxes formed just the same as usual, even though the pistils were already brown, and for the first time ever I had some calyxes with four pistils sticking out. I don't know why that happened. Since I haven't seen any threads about that I'm going to guess it was genetics.
 
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Okiedust49

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Potassium Bicarbonate



This is info I just googled and thought the formula by Ed Rosenthal to be possibly my next step. Maybe I'm not done with milk!

Overview: A lot of organic fungicide products for powdery mildew are simply potassium bicarbonate and a sticker agent, plus a flashy label on the bottle. Save money on overpriced liquid formulations by mixing it yourself using potassium bicarbonate powder and an organic wetting agent.

Application: Make a 0.5–2.0% solution (5–20 grams per liter) of potassium bicarbonate in water. Spray directly onto pm infected spots.

Cannabis Guru Ed Rosenthol prefers to mix an ounce of potassium bicarbonate in a gallon of water together along with 1.5 cups of milk.
 
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