miracle gro sucks? lol

BigBudBalls

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If you want to make things easy on yourself use Fox Farms Ocean Forrest. It is fanatastic stuff. You don't need to worry about any mixing, stabilizing, burning, etc. Unlike Miracle Grow or other common Home Depot/Lowes/Kmart soil brands, it does not have any ferts that disolve over time and with water, burning your plants.

It feeds naturally for about a month, after which you add your own nutes. Grow Big and Tiger Bloom are excellent choices as well

It still needs perlite. It will compact out of the bag.
 

MrFishy

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That "feeds for up to 3 months" means just that. Fast growing plants like mj require a lot of food.
This is why I transplant 2 weeks prior to going into 12/12, trying to add enough basics to get thru flowering in decent health.
 

MrFishy

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It is perfect the way it is.
Then don't blame MG cuz it doesn't last forever,k?; nothing lasts forever. It shouldn't even be an issue. I'm surprised you brought it up.

I didn't realize I was blaming?
How is sharing a theory related to extending Mgmc's nutrient effects blaming? I'm fully expecting to unlock it's potential, and it's secrets, like realistically, what one sign depicts the need for additional nutrients with this stuff. I get that perfected, I'll be ecstatic.

If it can be done, I'll be one of the ones just watering and changing light schedules early in the game. It's the old age that makes haulin' gallons of water upstairs, or rather larger, bushy plants down, less fun than it's always been.
 

TheFaux

New Member
I've found the MGmc soil excellent for vegging, not so much, for flowering. I've done two grows with it (well, am on 2nd grow) and saw early yellowing in 12/12 on both.
Still got nice buds, though, and weight.
Right there.... "not so much for flowering"..... wtf? If it's good, it's good, and it is good.
 

BigBudBalls

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Right there.... "not so much for flowering"..... wtf? If it's good, it's good, and it is good.

No. Its good for veg, like a veg nute. Hmmm. MG has nutes in it. I wonder which type. Could they be vegging nutes?

The nutes in the MG can basically be gone by flowering time, depending on ones sched.

No one has said its perfect for the whole run. Some are working on minimal adjustments.
 

MrFishy

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Where I come from, rating something less than excellent certainly has nothing to do with blaming.
 

TheFaux

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Where I come from, rating something less than excellent certainly has nothing to do with blaming.
Less than excellent why? You make it sound like MG has some short-comings that other soils don't. Call it what you want, I'm not trying to step on your toes; just looking for a decent answer.

No. Its good for veg, like a veg nute. Hmmm. MG has nutes in it. I wonder which type. Could they be vegging nutes?

The nutes in the MG can basically be gone by flowering time, depending on ones sched.

No one has said its perfect for the whole run. Some are working on minimal adjustments.
Ask Scotts if you want a definitive answer.

Is there an echo in here?

What does that even mean?... and who do you speak for? I'm pretty sure you can put a 7-week clone into a fresh pot of MG, go straight to 12/12, and get perfect nugs. ;-)
 

LilCX12

Active Member
Stright to the point

No Merical Grow doesn't suck if you know how to use it. Its not reayl recomended for noobs to use because the the nutes that are added into it. Don't start nuting untill the plant is 1 month old.
 

MrFishy

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It's just a moisture retentive soil mixture w/Osmocote in it, according to Scotts.
From a week ago, in reply to an e-mail I sent them.

"Miracle-Gro Moisture Control Potting Mix feeds for 3 months with Osmocote. Osmocote works on the principle of osmosis, which is how the product gets its name. Osmocote prills absorb moisture from the soil, causing them to swell into plump capsules of liquefied plant food. The nutrients are then slowly released through the prill's special coating to the plant's root zone through osmosis. This constant supply promotes beautiful plants. And since the nutrients are encapsulated, they will not wash away - no matter how much it rains or how often you water.

After three months, you can begin feeding plants on a regular basis with Miracle-Gro All Purpose Plant Food. We suggest you repot plant every 9 to 12 months.

Miracle-Gro is a water soluble food which is specifically formulated for use with all varieties of plants grown under normal cultural methods. Miracle-Gro contains the primary plant nutrients of nitrogen, phosphoric acid and potash, and six minor elements. The specific blend of these nutrients is designed to promote vigorous plant growth and vegetable and flower production.

Miracle-Gro All Purpose Plant Food contains the following micronutrients:

Boron 0.02 %
Copper 0.07 %
Iron 0.15 %
Manganese 0.05 %
Molybdenun 0.0005%
Zinc 0.06 %

Boron - disease resistance
Copper - in some enzyme systems
Iron - required for chlorophyll
Manganese - component of chlorophyll productions
Molybdenum - nitrate reduction
Zinc - structure and function of nucleic acids"
 

TheFaux

New Member
Stright to the point

No Merical Grow doesn't suck if you know how to use it. Its not reayl recomended for noobs to use because the the nutes that are added into it. Don't start nuting untill the plant is 1 month old.
I would recommend it to anyone, especially noobs.... just add water, you know?
 
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