Mirrors.. no good.... Seriously ...???

wannaquickee

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I don't follow brick, I just happen to see him giving opinions in 2 threads about things he doesn't actually do himself. Kind of like hearing a kid talk about sex and googling up a playboy as proof he knows his shit.

Didn't Brick up to recently claim he never grew?
i believe you are just trying to start trouble now
 

Japanfreak

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I'm surprised this is still being argued over. Japanfreak, mirrors can, and have been used as a reflective source to grow plants. But, they are not the best suited material for the job. Experience does speak for itself, but not all experience is the right experience. Senators have more experience at governing than I do, but it doesn't mean they are doing it the right way, or the best way.

Again, mirrors are more reflective than mylar, but they are not capable of distributing that light in the best way for a plant. Mirrors do in fact create "hot spots", if you read my post about photography a "hot spot" doesn't have to mean a certain spot is hot, it just means there is a smaller particular spot that gets more light than the rest of an area. Diffused light can generate much more "needed light" than a mirror because a mirror doesn't diffuse, it bounces direct beams.
You're splitting hairs for the sake of argument. 1% or 10% kind of silliness. Mirrors work well regardless of what might work better.
 

Brick Top

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Books for the most part. But I don't think google is bad, I think people who say stupid shit like Mirrors are really bad and then try to back it up with google are bad when instead you could just ask a person who actually uses mirrors about their experience.

Your so called experience did not educate you. I educated you. Had you known the difference between specular and diffuse reflection you would never have used mirrors in the first place and you would not now be defending your error of using them or your even bigger error of admitting to using them.

Please pick someone else to troll or better yet pick some other growing site to move to where you can spread your inaccuracies, your disinformation, your myths, your urban legends, your misconceptions, your old hippie folklore and your lies and see if you can impress the members of that site with your vast amount of growing ignorance and 100% lack of horticultural knowledge.
 

NLXSK1

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Hey man, if you want to suck his dick be my guest.
Pointing out that you are being a contentious little asshole has little to nothing to do with what I think about Brick Top. You are providing no useful information. You are jumping on someone for providing information that they didnt hand write. You are jumping on an ex cop in another thread about giving an opinion. Nobody's posts are good enough for you and the resulting pile of dung you create has no value here...
 

wannaquickee

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Pointing out that you are being a contentious little asshole has little to nothing to do with what I think about Brick Top. You are providing no useful information. You are jumping on someone for providing information that they didnt hand write. You are jumping on an ex cop in another thread about giving an opinion. Nobody's posts are good enough for you and the resulting pile of dung you create has no value here...
he tends to argue with anyone that gives him the time of day. i have noticed. i fell into the trap not long ago
 

noxiously

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Yea, I may be splitting hairs, but for the sake of argument, wasn't this thread about using mirrors and if they were good to use? Well, yea, mirrors may be O.K. to use, but they are not the best option to use. I would not direct anyone to use something if there are other options that are better to use. You could use foil, chrome, mirrors, mylar, white paint, polished tin, or just about anything else that reflects light.

They guy who posted this thread, if I'm not mistaken, was wondering if mirrors were good to use instead of mylar. Well, are they better option than mylar?
 

Japanfreak

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Pointing out that you are being a contentious little asshole has little to nothing to do with what I think about Brick Top. You are providing no useful information. You are jumping on someone for providing information that they didnt hand write. You are jumping on an ex cop in another thread about giving an opinion. Nobody's posts are good enough for you and the resulting pile of dung you create has no value here...
ANd what value do you add? Nothing.
 

Japanfreak

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They guy who posted this thread, if I'm not mistaken, was wondering if mirrors were good to use instead of mylar. Well?
Actually he mentioned tin-foil I think. Mirrors are much better than tin-foil and if we are talking about mylar, well most of the mylar I see in people's garden photos is dirty so I wouldn't be a bit surprised if mirrors are better than most of the mylar hanging out there.
 

noxiously

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Sure, there are probably a ton of people out there who has dirty mylar, but that doesn't take away from the fact that mirrors are not the best option. They just do not have the coverage that a plant needs, and they do not have as much coverage as mylar does. Sure, you can clean a mirror, you can also clean mylar even though it may be a bit tough. Again, unless your whole room is made up of mirrors, every single inch is covered with a mirror, then they would not be a good reflective material to use, just not enough coverage.

I'm wondering now how much it would cost to cover a whole room with mirrors, 4 walls, ceiling, and floor, because that's the only way using mirrors could cover a whole plant with light, unless you have a gigantic mirror, a gigantic light source...like the sun, and a small plant.
 

noxiously

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Japanfreak, I'll back you up a little bit on the whole mirror thing though. But first, Mylar is a better source to reflect enough light to cover a larger area than a mirror, or mirrors. Now on to backing you up some: Mirrors, from my experience in other fields, are a great source for direct lighting. You can turn the mirror or mirrors a certain way to light a particular spot on a wall, ceiling, floor, or plant. Which would probably be a great idea to get direct lighting to an area of a plant that may not have as much light as other areas, i.e. the lower branches of a plant. Mirrors would be a good source as a secondary reflective material, just not a primary reflective material.

You could place your plants on top of some mirrors so that when the light comes down, that is if your lights hang above the plants, all that light will be reflected back up towards the under side of the plant.

Are you happy now? :D
 

Japanfreak

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Japanfreak, I'll back you up a little bit on the whole mirror thing though. But first, Mylar is a better source to reflect enough light to cover a larger area than a mirror, or mirrors.
I totally agree

Japanfreak, I'll back you up a little bit on the whole mirror thing though. But first, Mylar is a better source to reflect enough light to cover a larger area than a mirror, or mirrors. Now on to backing you up some: Mirrors, from my experience in other fields, are a great source for direct lighting. You can turn the mirror or mirrors a certain way to light a particular spot on a wall, ceiling, floor, or plant. Which would probably be a great idea to get direct lighting to an area of a plant that may not have as much light as other areas, i.e. the lower branches of a plant. Mirrors would be a good source as a secondary reflective material, just not a primary reflective material.

You could place your plants on top of some mirrors so that when the light comes down, that is if your lights hang above the plants, all that light will be reflected back up towards the under side of the plant.

Are you happy now? :D
Yeah man I'm happy
 

SimplySmokin

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Mylar isnt 99% reflective, nothing is. Not even the best mirrors for nasa telescopes.

I have always used mirrors cause they are Very reflective. an has given me no problems an made my cab look soooo much brighter.

If i flashed you in the sun with white painted board or mylar youd hardly notice. If you got flashed with a mirror youd be blinded its so intense.
I use HIDs cause its intense light, my whole cab is a polished reflector bouncing around intense light.
Diffuse light is week light.

Kick the bottom of the mirror out tell it reflects on the side of the plant. You wont need side lights anymore.

Its all based on my observations, But mirrors reflect light.
Ya know Scar, this is the same position I took in the circle debate and still makes most sence to me.
 

Brick Top

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Originally Posted by Japanfreak I don't follow brick, I just happen to see him giving opinions in 2 threads about things he doesn't actually do himself. Kind of like hearing a kid talk about sex and googling up a playboy as proof he knows his shit.

Didn't Brick up to recently claim he never grew?
If that last very poorly worded line was intended to say that I at some point said I do not grow or that I have never grown, then you could not have been more incorrect had you given it your best attempt to be incorrect.

I have clearly stated, many times, that I began growing in 1972, in the spring of 1972, which soon will mean that I have grown for 39 years, almost 4 decades.

What I did recently say is I never say if and what and when I am growing. I might say that I experienced some problem or had some certain results a few months back or a year ago or several years ago, but in fact it might have only happened last week or yesterday, or even today.

I have gone nearly 39 years now without getting busted. I see no reason to ever broadcast to anyone, let alone to the entire world by saying it online, that I have a crop growing. While the chances are admittedly slim that someone might be attempting to sniff me out I see no reason whatsoever to tell them that at any given moment it would be a good time for them to pay me a visit and instead do my best to always make it appear as if they come for a visit they will find the cookie jar empty.

I have known of people being busted due to pictures they posted online and things they have said online. Since the last one, which occurred in my town, I stopped posting pictures and stopped giving up to date information as to what I was doing at any given time.

That is what I recently said, along with describing three busts I know of that all occurred due to what people said online and pictures they posted online.

If you wish you attempt to lie about what I actually said and attempt to make it appear as if I said I never grow or never grew, well then have at it, lie away, lie until your hateful heart is filled with content. But never be foolish enough to believe that your lies will ever alter reality. No matter how many times you lie, the truth will remain the exact same. Just as no matter how many times you attempt to pass off your inaccurate personal beliefs and inaccurate personal opinions you will never be able to do it enough times to transform so much as one single piece of factual information I post into no longer being a proven fact.

A proven fact is just that, a proven fact, and a proven fact will always remain a proven fact. While I did not make it a habit of reading many of your messages I have never seen a single proven fact stated by you, at least not one that was intended and direct.

You have more than clearly proven through your own statements the fact that you are a lost ball in the tall weeds when it comes to botanical knowledge, but since you had no intention of ever revealing that fact in a way I suppose it does not really count since it was purely accidental rather than intentional. But that is the only fact I have ever seen you reveal.

Then again most of the time I keep you on ignore because I cannot stomach your continual inane psychobabble and only from time to time, for short periods of time, remove you from my ignore list to see what your most recently spewed absurdity is. At times curiosity gets the best of me so I take a peek, and then right after I return you to my ignore list for a fairly lengthy period of time. A handful of messages of yours that I reply to, like this one, were not seen in your actual message but were instead seen in a quote where someone replied to your inane beliefs and absurd opinions. So I C&P'd it and put it in quotes and replied to it.

If you do not believe that I normally have you on ignore take a look at your profile page and look at the last ten people who visited your page are. My name will pop up there now and then, and it is only to return you to ignore after removing you from ignore.

Now once again, please pick someone else to troll or pick some other growing site to haunt and fill with absurdities.
 

Japanfreak

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If that last very poorly worded line was intended to say that I at some point said I do not grow or that I have never grown, then you could not have been more incorrect had you given it your best attempt to be incorrect.
Dude I know you love to Ramble on, but a simple, "Naw, I've grown for years" would do.
 

SimplySmokin

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Household mirrors are 99% reflective. High grade optical mirrors are 99.9% reflective. mylar is 92-95% reflective. The amount of light glass absorbs is negligible. It's only the high ultra violet that is absorbed, which the plants don't need. There is a alot of misinformation on the web about this. Mirrors 'may' not be optimal for other reasons, but it's not because of reflectivity.
Another bit of data that makes me glad I have my mirror.. Gotta say I'm leaning that way for sure now.. Thx Kor
 
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