bigbillyrocka
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Really? I've watched several steal from the store i worked. Not just kids, were talking Supposed "Devout" mormons. Not to mention i know some that go to church tweaked out of their minds.
Mitt Romney is a dumbass
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bigbillyrocka
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That's all they'll ever have. I didn't want Obama to begin with, never liked him but would MUCH rather him over Romney any year.
Padawanbater2
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A person who believes in something so stupid shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a political office.
This goes for Christianity, too.
If you can fuck up so bad on lifes biggest question, why would you think that person can make the best decisions for the country? That's like making John Wayne Gacy the principle of a high school.
canndo
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That lesser of two evils line is really nothing more than the obverse of the greater of two goods. The only way you could get around either is to have two identicaly evil or two identicaly good candidates.
Dr Kynes
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and this would make you a liar.
Ernst
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Bush-himers!
Dr Kynes
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i dont mind somebody with religious views, i got mine own to worry about. but likewise i would not automatically lean towards a militant athiest with richard dawkins' face tattooed on his ass who thinks banning all religions would be a fine first step towards his vision for a new world with the purity of purpose you find only in ant colonies and bacterial cultures.
some people like their religions, and if that religion is genrally harmless to any but the adherents then thers no problem. if mormons decide they want coffee, cigarettes booze and weed they can always drop out and join the rest of us, just like the amish, the mennanites and the sub-geniuses.
the religions that stretch forth their scabrous and shrivelled hands towards the rest of us and attempt to force others to abide by their gris-gris taboos and foolish superstitions are a different matter.
that group encompasses the rabid evangelicals, many baptists, scientologists, the moonies and the mullahs and imams of Bonerfartism.
Padawanbater2
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No organized religion is harmless. They are all enemies of truth and reason, and cause much more harm than they provide good. The degree of harm is where the argument lies, some (Christianity, Islam) clearly more than others (Buddhism)
budlover13
King Tut
i would say that organized religion COULD be harmless. If they'd stop their damn proselytizing.
Padawanbater2
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I disagree, imo, anything that permits, and in some cases mandates, deceiving ones self in favor of the myth is harmful and can lead to horrible consequences.
Carne Seca
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Lots of Mormons drink coffee and a few smoke. I, for one, enjoy imbibing some tequila on occasion. It doesn't affect my membership in the church EXCEPT for a temple recommend. It's not like the Muslims where eating pork damns you to eternal flames and no virgins. I don't plan on going to the temple anytime soon so I enjoy me some Cuervo.
budlover13
King Tut
Deceiving one's self is a matter of perspective imo.
Padawanbater2
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budlover13
King Tut
One's beliefs are true to them. Your beliefs are true to you so you follow them. If one believes differently, it's their perspective that is different than yours.
Padawanbater2
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One may believe something different, but that doesn't mean they're true. Real truth is objective, as objective as reality permits anyway, there is no "your truth" or "my truth", there is only the truth.
budlover13
King Tut
See, MY version of truth is based on math and the precision of the universe. That's why i believe in a Creator along with my personal experiences. If you are not adept and familiar with mathematics (which i assume you are) AND if you haven't experienced MY experiences, you cannot judge my perception of reality accurately imo.
Padawanbater2
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Perception of reality is irrelevant to what is objectively true.
budlover13
King Tut
Objective proof cannot prove nor disprove the existence of a Creator. It may eventually happen, but it ain't there yet.
Padawanbater2
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I agree, but why should we believe in something that isn't proven to be objectively true? That argument breaks down to picking and choosing deities. How do you know the one you picked is correct? If you don't know, isn't not picking just as reasonable, if not more reasonable, than picking a mistake?
Furthermore, isn't the clear pain caused by organized religion enough to make you question you made the correct choice in the first place?