Molasses for coco coir during flowering

chuck estevez

chuck estevez

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Laughing Smoke said:
Molasses feeds microbes that in return bolster your plants immune system and ability to intake nutrients easy from the roots. Shockingly this all combines into a bigger happier plant with big happy buds!
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is that real world science, or feel good broscience?
My point is this, I grow several different strains, i have a perpetual garden. I grow year round, I have tried most everything out there. ME,personally, I found molasses to create more problems than helping. Less is ALWAYS more in growing, Once I gave up all the gimmicks, measuring this,phing that. bloom food in this week and all the other crap and just used a good 1 part nute in low doses, This is when my plants gave the best buds, best yields, best highs.
I don't need people on the internet telling me it's awesome, I HAVE SEEN the difference. If you are doing a organic soil, using it in a AACT tea is the best use for it.
 
chuck estevez

chuck estevez

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Recent Studies
Molasses to boost soil microbial activity has been talked about for many decades and the theory has been that it provides an energy source for microbes that can be utilized equally well by all soil organisms.

However, field applications that I have studied, have not tended to produce many convincing responses. For instance, Recent research by SWEP laboratories, has begun to shed light on this issue by looking at soil biology from a balance perspective (according to the principles of the Mikhail System) that has shown some significant effects on soil biology, but are now finding that the soilfoodweb is much more complex than expected - something Dr. Elaine Ingham (www.soilfoodweb.com) could have told them many years ago.

Results of these studies appear to indicate that the lowest application rates work best for fungi and cellulose utilizers, while some bacteria showed the opposite response, with activity increasing as the application rate increased. So my 'take' on this is that BALANCE is the prerequisite to consider, involving the type of microbes you want to supply, based on what you are attempting to accomplish.

With regard to feeding compost tea microbe population (liquid environment, not solids), in my opinion there is no equal in the field, to Dr. Ingham. However, tea must be aerated and fed more than just molasses to accomplish such objective effectively. [11]
 
Laughing Smoke

Laughing Smoke

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chuck estevez said:
is that real world science, or feel good broscience?
My point is this, I grow several different strains, i have a perpetual garden. I grow year round, I have tried most everything out there. ME,personally, I found molasses to create more problems than helping. Less is ALWAYS more in growing, Once I gave up all the gimmicks, measuring this,phing that. bloom food in this week and all the other crap and just used a good 1 part nute in low doses, This is when my plants gave the best buds, best yields, best highs.
I don't need people on the internet telling me it's awesome, I HAVE SEEN the difference. If you are doing a organic soil, using it in a AACT tea is the best use for it.
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I agree with you about 90%. Mostly anything with truely depends on genetics. I have a control kush and a test kush I use fox farm big bloom and max bloom with bloombastic and molasses on the test kush and none on the control. The test kush is just barely more resinous than the control.
 
chuck estevez

chuck estevez

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Okallright said:
I thought molasses was full of carbs ? ? Something to do with the sugars and carbs??? Idk
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so, you're calling me names, telling me I don't know about molasses, and now you admit, you don't know ANYTHING about the use of molasses, in coco or not, you're just parroting shit you thought you read. Jeebus, no wonder you couldn't answer the question.
 
Okallright

Okallright

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chuck estevez said:
so, you're calling me names, telling me I don't know about molasses, and now you admit, you don't know ANYTHING about the use of molasses, in coco or not, you're just parroting shit you thought you read. Jeebus, no wonder you couldn't answer the question.
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isn't carbo-load a hydroponic molasses?
 
Ace Yonder

Ace Yonder

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Laughing Smoke said:
I would only use molasses in a soil grow. Coco has no microbes that would be needing it. I use bloombastic every three feedings I've got pretty good results since my stuff harvest in October.
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I'm not sure that's entirely true, I am pretty sure that you can introduce beneficial microbes, like Mycorrhizae, to a coco grow medium, which could then be fed by the molasses? I was under them impression that Myco could even be introduced successfully to hydroponics systems

Laughing Smoke said:
Molasses feeds microbes that in return bolster your plants immune system and ability to intake nutrients easy from the roots. Shockingly this all combines into a bigger happier plant with big happy buds!
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This has been my point all along (Along with mentioning several other benefits of Blackstrap Molasses [I see the rather useless non-blackstrap types of molasses suggested a lot on this forum and feel that sometimes people's dislike of Molasses comes from using the wrong kind on account of that])
 
Poontanger

Poontanger

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Mmmmm im not going to enter the debate on wether unsulphured Molasses is good or bad for dope in coo , but after reading as much as I could find on the soil bennifits of unsulphured molases , I tried it on my tomatoes ,
50 % got it , same breed of tommy , planted same time same soil prep, the only difference was half got Mol , half didn't ,
In my soil types & my ground preparation , it is a hands down winner , & will be using it again next tommy season , the difference in yield , health of plants , & also how much longer the treated bushes kept producing for , is quite amazing , I cant explain as to why this is , or was the case but, I saw the results
 
Jypsy Dog

Jypsy Dog

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Poontanger said:
Mmmmm im not going to enter the debate on wether unsulphured Molasses is good or bad for dope in coo , but after reading as much as I could find on the soil bennifits of unsulphured molases , I tried it on my tomatoes ,
50 % got it , same breed of tommy , planted same time same soil prep, the only difference was half got Mol , half didn't ,
In my soil types & my ground preparation , it is a hands down winner , & will be using it again next tommy season , the difference in yield , health of plants , & also how much longer the treated bushes kept producing for , is quite amazing , I cant explain as to why this is , or was the case but, I saw the results
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You do understand it feeds the soil, not the plant.
 
Poontanger

Poontanger

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Yes Jypsy Dog , but if its helping the soil , wont this in turn help the plant ??
all I can go on is the results , of my side by side , the science of it all , is beyond me
 
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