Molasses-How much per gallon Water?

hybridcheef

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Unless you have living bio's in the media.
It's not doing much of anything - at all.

It's used in making AACT to feed the living bio's so they reproduce in large amounts.
In any direct contact media use (including soil), the amounts of any plant usable nutrition is so low after mixing in your molasses. That it's not making any real effective difference.

The use of molasses to increase bud size, or more commonly heard, flavors. Is an old school hippie myth started in the 70's. Bout the same as "flushing"....

In reality, molasses should never be added to hydroponic grows..... Ed R. says so, even Jorge agree's...
i always add microbes when ever i do mollasses.
 

chemphlegm

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I'm a believer molasses has it's place during flower stage because it improves smell, taste and gives you a smoother smoke. It contributes to the micro nutrients as well as many other ( expensive ) flushing products. It only needs a table:hug:spoon per gallon once a week or every other watering schedule. Ah sweet stuff making it sweeter. With all fertilizer regimen always start with 1/2 to 1/4 of recommended applications. Remember with every grow cycle we learn a little more what amounts work with a varying dosages. Instinctual sense of wonder. Put on a happy face and have fun with Mother natures treats.:sleep:
:wall: bongsmilie:bigjoint:

if molasses is making your weed better it means you are not feeding your weed properly to begin with. they grow to their weakest resource provided, I suspect your would be magnesium for one. a balanced hydro nutrient or a properly fed soil container will not benefit from molasses augmentation indoor, not one bit, the opposite can happen though.
 

Dr. Who

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i always add microbes when ever i do mollasses.
Then the microbes are making the difference and your feeding them with the molasses.

Synthetic use efficiency, does improve with the use of microbes. Some years back I did some experiments with differing levels of use of basic AACT in synthetic use.
I was surprised to find that you had to decrease the nutrient concentrations used by as much as 50%+....... This was with alternating feed - tea - feed -tea use. The tea was diluted too..

Good living micro herds in synthetic use. Can be quite effective..
 

Dr. Who

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if molasses is making your weed better it means you are not feeding your weed properly to begin with. they grow to their weakest resource provided, I suspect your would be magnesium for one. a balanced hydro nutrient or a properly fed soil container will not benefit from molasses augmentation indoor, not one bit, the opposite can happen though.
Minor feeding of the bio's. There are far better ways to, as I feel it compacts soil and can create anaerobic conditions from fermentation and compacting.....
 

chemphlegm

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Exactly. Carbs would be about it.....and then only by concentration.
...and those carbs would be substantial in a balanced hydro nutrient and/or properly fed soil, and if nutrient supply was balanced adding more of them would be a detriment as is over feeding
When success is found without molasses, and issues are found when using it.....I contend it is useless
for my indoor garden cultivation. But thats just me maybe, I seem to have so much luck in my rooms its crazy.:rolleyes:

Maybe if I ran high heat, high RH, no c02, used coco, didnt have any air circulation, used city water, bleach, epsom salts, vinegar, lemon juice, miracle grow, peroxide, fungicides, miticides.....molasses might just be my ticket to success:P
 

Newgrowjournal

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This whole thread is filled with hearsay and myths...

Molasses is used to encourage microherd growth in organically grown soils. If you are using chemical nutrients the molasses is doing just about nothing. Molasses works by feeding microorganisms in your soil with sugars and organic matter, in turn the extra growth of bacteria can break down the organic materials in your soil; releasing the nutrients from the organic compounds.

If you are doing an organic grow, do a ton more research. Understanding the microherd and the relationship between fungus-bacteria-soil-plant is essential if you want to do it right.

If your growing with a nute line, skip the molasses, your plant doesn't need carbs, nor does it need sugar to attract bugs.
you are right. The mychorrizhae in the soil forms symbiotic relationships with the plants roots. The plant trades sugars for nutrients. Mychorrizhae are fungi that leach their roots deep into cannabis roots to help them. In forests they are known as the underground network allowing information to be passed between different root systems. Quite amazing!
This is where the molasses comes into play and the rest is history.
 

Newgrowjournal

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You must've read Teaming:) My man!!!

Though you have pointed out probably the biggest reason on the benefits, molasses does provide more than a carbohydrate energy source to the soil food web.

Averaging an NPK of 1-0-5, molasses contains potash, sulfur, and quite a feww trace minerals; it can serve as both an excellent chelating agent and a soil conditioner.

It is interesting, however, that oatmeal isn't used more. Powdered baby oatmeal is actually a more stable carbohydrate source for fungal mychorrizae. Molasses has a wider spectrum for both bacterial and fungal applications, however.

Funny how some people are like: "molasses made my buds taste soo sweet". LoL.

Glad to see some truth here...+rep
you are right. The mychorrizhae in the soil forms symbiotic relationships with the plants roots. The plant trades sugars for nutrients. Mychorrizhae are fungi that leach their roots deep into cannabis roots to help them. In forests they are known as the underground network allowing information to be passed between different root systems. Quite amazing!
 

Dankonomics_genetics

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Be careful molasses is pure acid. I’d use it as ph down. But there’s other sugars that are better. Not acidic. The benefits are they feed microbes and add some traces and npk as well as ph adjust water, or swell flowers and add some terps. Molasses imo makes bud smell a lot and taste a lot the same. I switched years ago and would never go back. I prefer humic acid for ph down, silica for up
 

Newgrowjournal

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molasses does not add weight, is only useful in organic growing to provide a transportable sorce of carbs and feed micro life in the soil. It does not make weed taste better/sweeter, about the only thing it does when not use in a organic grow is lock out magnesium, and attract bugs, been using my bottle of molasses for a door stop for 3 years lol, and the statement about powdered baby oatmeal is almost 100% you can use it a natural soil amendment when you make your soil mix 1 cup for every 1.5 cu ft of soil media
Microbes in the soil eat sugars. Your plants trade sugars they make from light to mycorrhizae in exchange for nutrients. This creates a symbiotic relationship between one another. Organic or not, has nothing to do with the general microbial life in the soil. Use molasses, it creates stronger plants.
 

Growingcentral420

New Member
This whole thread is filled with hearsay and myths...

Molasses is used to encourage microherd growth in organically grown soils. If you are using chemical nutrients the molasses is doing just about nothing. Molasses works by feeding microorganisms in your soil with sugars and organic matter, in turn the extra growth of bacteria can break down the organic materials in your soil; releasing the nutrients from the organic compounds.

If you are doing an organic grow, do a ton more research. Understanding the microherd and the relationship between fungus-bacteria-soil-plant is essential if you want to do it right.

If your growing with a nute line, skip the molasses, your plant doesn't need carbs, nor does it need sugar to attract bugs.
Sorry i beg to disagree ive been useing molasses for 12 yrs and my buds come out loaded with sweet tasting pot! Kust my opinion
 

guitarzan

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Hey cannatricks, I used chemical fertilizers at first, 10-52-10, then after it went into full bud I call it, I started using Nutri+ two part BLOOM liquid, and maybe 20 mg total per gallon water. They say i can use it until the end without salt buildup or a need for a chemical flush...but they say a lot of things I'm sure. I also made up a batch of bat guano 0-15-0 & banana peel/egg shell tea...can I feed it that homemade tea until harvest do you think...or should i stop or slowdown the last weeks...like NOW? Any input by fellow growers is appreciated but may be taken with a grain of unsulphured molasses...or a Tablespoon per gallon of water.
 

iDab666

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Molasses contains sugar, The whole idea of adding molasses is this. During the plants photosynthesis process the plant makes sugar in exchange for sugar for nutrients created and held by the micro organisms in your medium. Long story short the plant produces sugar and exchanges that with the microbes for nutrients. Add molasses… Feeds the microbes… Enhances nutrient uptake…
 

iDab666

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So if you’re preparing your medium whatever medium it is with Micoriza or some kind of beneficial microbes. Then those beneficial microbes/fungus should technically benefit from adding molasses. This is also why people growing in soil is mediums use products like microbes or Benny’s recharge growtek synergy Micomadness etc should benefit from adding 1tsp per gal of molasses when you give your plant just plain water. IMO day1 feed day2 feed day3 water day 4 dry
 
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