Molasses VS. Honey for flowering for bigger nugs???

Intcorquad

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i used 1 tsp per gallon, now im reading people talking about 2-3 tbs well which is it teaspoons or tablespoons for outdoor??????????????????
 

Big Worms Way

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i used 1 tsp per gallon, now im reading people talking about 2-3 tbs well which is it teaspoons or tablespoons for outdoor??????????????????
I think a lot of it has to do with container size, medium etc... I would say start light and add to it.... By the way I gave the honey thing a whirl and it too dissolves very easily..... Molasses is the cheaper of the two though. I will be starting with the molasses tomorrow. Cant wait to see the results!
 

cadeneli

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P.S. Wanted to add this also. Plants make their own sugars so why would sugar be a factor in helping the buds get fatter??? Some insite on his post please. Thx
As men, our body naturally produces testosterone but when we add more (steroids) our body builds muscle bigger and faster. Its the the carbs
 

justiceman

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I believe honey has anti bacterial properties. That is why people use to use it to preserve things. I believe there even existed a culture that preserved their dead in honey. So honey would be a NO GO because it would potentially mess with your micro herd.

Molasses helps bacteria grow. Its excellent for horticultural use. It also contains calcium magnesium, potassium, and iron. It probably has a few other things in it as well. It definitely raises ppm levels. I don't usually give more then 100ppm worth of molasses. Sometimes I give less like 50ppm. that results in about 1-2 tsps(5-10ml) per 3 gallons or about 1.7ml-3.3ml per gallon. Some say less is more, others put 1 TBSP per gallon. depends ont he rest of your tea, and desired ppm level.
 

audiB8RS4

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i use up to 4 table spoons per gallon about 4 weeks into flower, and 2 tablespoons during every normal watering. plants love it, my dose is high,but it works for me.

I dissolve it in plain old cold water,i use a stirring stick and it dissipates into the water fast. i then Bubble it overnight with a fishtank bubbler.

this serves to oxigenate the water which allows a lil more oxygen to be available to the roots during watering. i have had no problems with this method so far.
 
i use up to 4 table spoons per gallon about 4 weeks into flower, and 2 tablespoons during every normal watering. plants love it, my dose is high,but it works for me.

I dissolve it in plain old cold water,i use a stirring stick and it dissipates into the water fast. i then Bubble it overnight with a fishtank bubbler.

this serves to oxigenate the water which allows a lil more oxygen to be available to the roots during watering. i have had no problems with this method so far.
Are you using soil or doing hydro?
 

sampson0420

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my grandma's unsulphered molasses fucked me up this past week and a half. Didn't realize it was dropping my PH by quite a bit, from 7 to 6.3, just by add 1-2tbsp per gallon.... pretty pissed.
 

MrBlanco

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I just picked up a bottle of Brer Rabbit unsulphured blackstrap. This topic has pretty much given me everything I needed to know about using it. Now for the experimentation.
 

zenza

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Im really not sure about feeding molasses to plants, the science seems fairly non-existent, if it were that easy to boost a plants energy levels I'm sure it would be a far more widespread horticultural practice. And it is not widespread. If it were, it would be a product sold by almost any decent supplier, the same as most forms of nutrients, and again it is not.

From the research I have done, feeding molasses to plants does not directly 'feed' the plant at all, what it does is provide a boost for the bacteria that colonize the soil and the root mass, BUT it is an indiscimnate method of feeding, in that when you feed molasses to those bacteria you feed the good bacteria and bad bacteria alike, and increase the risk of fungus and mould.

Ignoring this I decided to run a test, I selected 8 plants, four of which I flowered using my normal nutrients and additives (the 'control' batch) the other four had the same nutrients plus the added black strap molasses once per week. I have the say the difference seemed negligible, the slight differences were exhibited between all plants regardless of the addition of molasses during the flowering phase. In fact the largest yielder of the eight was one of the control batch.

Plants were serious seeds AK-47, grown in 11Litres/ea of Plagron Batmix, with Biobizz organic nutrients Grow/Bloom with the addition (to both groups) of Biobizz Topmax Stimulator and Hesi SuperVit, once per week during flowering phase. Grown under 2x600w 7200k MH lamps during Veg and 2x600w HPS for flowering.
 

Bigol'Bong

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Im really not sure about feeding molasses to plants, the science seems fairly non-existent, if it were that easy to boost a plants energy levels I'm sure it would be a far more widespread horticultural practice. And it is not widespread. If it were, it would be a product sold by almost any decent supplier, the same as most forms of nutrients, and again it is not.
FALSE, This stuff is sold in every hydroponic shop in the world, its not the actual molasses that is what gives the plant what it needs. Its adding extra carbs to it, a practice that is widespread and well known about. Most of the Plant rippeners are just some form of carb, molasses is used because its a very cheap alternative to these way overpriced item that is available in most larger grocery stores
 

MrBlanco

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FALSE, This stuff is sold in every hydroponic shop in the world, its not the actual molasses that is what gives the plant what it needs. Its adding extra carbs to it, a practice that is widespread and well known about. Most of the Plant rippeners are just some form of carb, molasses is used because its a very cheap alternative to these way overpriced item that is available in most larger grocery stores
I haven't looked at a lot of manufacturers but I know that Humboldt Nutrients' Honey ES has molasses as a main ingredient.
 

stumps

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my grandma's unsulphered molasses fucked me up this past week and a half. Didn't realize it was dropping my PH by quite a bit, from 7 to 6.3, just by add 1-2tbsp per gallon.... pretty pissed.
ph at 6.3 is fine. I've tested molasses and only seen a very slight change in ph.
 

stumps

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Im really not sure about feeding molasses to plants, the science seems fairly non-existent, if it were that easy to boost a plants energy levels I'm sure it would be a far more widespread horticultural practice. And it is not widespread. If it were, it would be a product sold by almost any decent supplier, the same as most forms of nutrients, and again it is not.

From the research I have done, feeding molasses to plants does not directly 'feed' the plant at all, what it does is provide a boost for the bacteria that colonize the soil and the root mass, BUT it is an indiscimnate method of feeding, in that when you feed molasses to those bacteria you feed the good bacteria and bad bacteria alike, and increase the risk of fungus and mould.

Ignoring this I decided to run a test, I selected 8 plants, four of which I flowered using my normal nutrients and additives (the 'control' batch) the other four had the same nutrients plus the added black strap molasses once per week. I have the say the difference seemed negligible, the slight differences were exhibited between all plants regardless of the addition of molasses during the flowering phase. In fact the largest yielder of the eight was one of the control batch.

Plants were serious seeds AK-47, grown in 11Litres/ea of Plagron Batmix, with Biobizz organic nutrients Grow/Bloom with the addition (to both groups) of Biobizz Topmax Stimulator and Hesi SuperVit, once per week during flowering phase. Grown under 2x600w 7200k MH lamps during Veg and 2x600w HPS for flowering.
I've read report after report on the use of molasses check out some of the ag schools. Your right the molasses feeds the microbes and the microbes help feed the plant. you might look in to your regular nutes and see if your all raedy giving them some type of molasses in the mix.
 

Intcorquad

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Im really not sure about feeding molasses to plants, the science seems fairly non-existent, if it were that easy to boost a plants energy levels I'm sure it would be a far more widespread horticultural practice. And it is not widespread. If it were, it would be a product sold by almost any decent supplier, the same as most forms of nutrients, and again it is not.

From the research I have done, feeding molasses to plants does not directly 'feed' the plant at all, what it does is provide a boost for the bacteria that colonize the soil and the root mass, BUT it is an indiscimnate method of feeding, in that when you feed molasses to those bacteria you feed the good bacteria and bad bacteria alike, and increase the risk of fungus and mould.

Ignoring this I decided to run a test, I selected 8 plants, four of which I flowered using my normal nutrients and additives (the 'control' batch) the other four had the same nutrients plus the added black strap molasses once per week. I have the say the difference seemed negligible, the slight differences were exhibited between all plants regardless of the addition of molasses during the flowering phase. In fact the largest yielder of the eight was one of the control batch.

Plants were serious seeds AK-47, grown in 11Litres/ea of Plagron Batmix, with Biobizz organic nutrients Grow/Bloom with the addition (to both groups) of Biobizz Topmax Stimulator and Hesi SuperVit, once per week during flowering phase. Grown under 2x600w 7200k MH lamps during Veg and 2x600w HPS for flowering.
i assure you molasses works just fine
 
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