BucketGrower
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I could probably do this through pm if you want but I'm curious... what do you do with all that? Sell to dispensaries or for personal consumption/ give to friends?
Money no object LED
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Buddernugs
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Yeah I agree with you they’re the same exact light, just driven harder. Kind of takes away from what the 650 is all about
Bucsfan80
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Where is that claim made?
m4s73r
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Bucsfan80
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Not hijacking but got a question. Anyone reading have a decent 400w quantum board? If so what distance from canopy, and what power % (late flower)?
Bucsfan80
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Hahaha I missed that. I like the dimmable red. Don't see it on info sheet.
m4s73r
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Ok that one looks better. 2.5 Umol. I would still proly argue for Chilled DIY 600w kit since it has a higher efficiency. But that is at least more honest lol. Independent dimming of the reds is cool feature. Not a bad light at all. Not a fan of built in drivers but I wont hold that against them. I wonder if you order parts to fix this light?
Edit: They measured their par in a 4x4 but are advertising it for a 5x5?
Edit: They measured their par in a 4x4 but are advertising it for a 5x5?
Bucsfan80
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Yeah I noticed that also. I'm starting to wonder now lol. I might move it down on my list of under 1k wants lol
m4s73r
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Yeah man, too many inconsistencies for me. It'd be off my list lol.
ComfortCreator
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I thought this as I read your post and saw the picture. It is nice that you are relatively modest about it.So I see this thread is still alive and cooking......I'll again post a link to my very first gavita 1700e grow from last year. It currently has over 66K views on the Farm, and the thread has been locked since March so no comments have been added since then.
Irie Seeds "Orange Gasm" under Gavita Pro 1700e LED's..........
After over 30+ years of growing under HPS bulbs, I've finally made the switch to LED's. Bigtime! 2 of these LED's cost me over $2800 delivered. Everything is new- a new room, 2 new lights, a new strain, a different exhaust system, new pots, etc........ Excessive heat was the main reason for the...www.thcfarmer.com
I'm back to comment now, as I have 5 grows under my belt and about to finish my 6th in about 2 weeks. All told, the Gavita's still are performing admirably with no issues or problems. I continue to average about 100 oz a crop in the 4 X 8 sq. ft space. under 2 of the LED's. I pretty much have it down pat about now and don't really spend much time in the room other than to water and give a quick look/see. Defoliation continues to be an important part of all my grows, and helps in many ways, which I've detailed before early in this thread.
To be sure, there are better LED's on the market just about now. Independent reviews have confirmed this fact. I plan on going another year and a half and replacing both of these- so 3 years total feels about right. I won a Medic Grow Fold 8 in a contest and that hangs in another room for emergencies when needed and as a back up just in case. It's a nice light for $589 delivered, close to half the price of the gavita. I have no idea what direction I'll go with next time, and expect further improvements to continue every couple of months. But for now, the Gavita's are just fine for my purposes and a few oz here or there makes no difference- they remain a high quality LED that take alot of abuse as I hit my head on them 20X a week.
We can debate forever the issue, fact is, grower skill and strain selection are just as important as light quality.
The light may work for you but having seen a few hundred grows here with all sorts of LEDs, it is not the light.
It mat be a great light. It just doesnt matter that much though.
What you use next informs us a lot more than anything else. Your first LEDs were top quality but you didnt have experience with them yet. Now that you know LED you can make a really well informed decision.
Again my point is, the light doesn't matter as much as most of you think. First off, nearly 95% of the manufacturers overstate their numbers. This has been proven by legit independent reviewers. Even gavita overstated their LED performance. To my memory, I think I've only seen 2 manufacturers actually claim correct and accurate numbers. Don't believe any of their claims, look for proper reviews, you may be surprised.
Secondly, again, the top LED's performance are much the same and most won't notice any difference in the end. I was able to obtain 2.3-2.4 GPW in my first grow by my experience growing (over 30 years) and not buy the gavita's performance. To maximize any light, you need to be a solid grower and understand much of what is going on. It doesn't happen overnight........ and LED aren't the magic potion to end all. Becoming a good grower first is more important in the end than buying expensive equipment.
I also want to mention co2, which everyone from the start told me how necessary it is to obtain high yields, and especially important when using high photon LED's. I haven't used it yet, and continue to have great success without it. I've used it before under HPS and found it a pain to bother with. So I don't. Fresh air is enough for success, I aim for negative air pressure in the room.
Cocoforcannabis is doing some solid LED reviews, many can be found on Youtube among other places. Spend some time looking around, you may be surprised as to what you find. Rollitup is probably NOT the place I'd be looking for help on this, but that's me.
Secondly, again, the top LED's performance are much the same and most won't notice any difference in the end. I was able to obtain 2.3-2.4 GPW in my first grow by my experience growing (over 30 years) and not buy the gavita's performance. To maximize any light, you need to be a solid grower and understand much of what is going on. It doesn't happen overnight........ and LED aren't the magic potion to end all. Becoming a good grower first is more important in the end than buying expensive equipment.
I also want to mention co2, which everyone from the start told me how necessary it is to obtain high yields, and especially important when using high photon LED's. I haven't used it yet, and continue to have great success without it. I've used it before under HPS and found it a pain to bother with. So I don't. Fresh air is enough for success, I aim for negative air pressure in the room.
Cocoforcannabis is doing some solid LED reviews, many can be found on Youtube among other places. Spend some time looking around, you may be surprised as to what you find. Rollitup is probably NOT the place I'd be looking for help on this, but that's me.
m4s73r
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Only 2 huh, Brands? And you know their numbers are accurate due to your testing of hundreds of led lights? And Cocforcannabis is one of the last places I'd go. I personally would look at Shane from Migro.
Damn, Im sorry you had so many people tell you co2. Any actual grower would tell you to just make your space bigger or suggest any thing else before co2. co2 is a last resort for improving yield. Like the very dead balls last thing you do. I am excited, im going to be adding natural co2 to my grow once my mushroom tent is up and going!
green217
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Purdy!
Hey dick head, I never said they were my reviews. I was actually thinking of Migro but figured most of you wouldn’t have a clue who it was I talking about. If you watched as many of his reviews as I have, you’d would know what I said was 100% accurate. And the co2 claim was not people, it was manufacturers telling customers it was necessary to use it since the LED’s were so powerful. Go back in your hole, I’m trying to help and you’re just being a schmuck. When you have 1 successful grow (I probably have 15+on RIU), come on back and we’ll argue some more. You’re just a troll big man…….my grows speak for themselves, here, on the farm and numerous other places going back to 2008. Shut your trap and learn something instead of making stupid comments.
Nutty sKunK
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Its on the 2nd floor in a low ceiling room. So atm outdoor temps are 50f, room temp is 67f (40mph winds strips the heat big time) as it’s an old ass house (1829)
The tent sits at 71f . That’s with the extraction right down to about 30-40%. any lower and I got mold mid flower.
So the light only heats it a few degrees.
Back in the late summer it was about 85f in the tent and didn’t have issues.
Rocket Soul
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I tend to agree here even if i prefer diy for a perfect fit to my space, but the diablo with new evo diodes hits the spot quite well, but id add some uv and definitely far red on separate channels.
Alternatively if you want that perfect all in one spectrum without messing around with extra channels id go for High lights 420 by growlights australia /LED TEKNIK. you would probably want 6 boards for a 5x5.
m4s73r
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Ahh low temps, high humidity. Is the driver in the tent as well?
m4s73r
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Oof, let me just block this cunt. Wow. Talk about a condescending dude.
m4s73r
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Did I read that right? Like he would have suggested something, but figured what? we dont know how youtube works?
Hey guys, So Shane from Migro has done a Metric shit ton of reviews on lights. Check him out on youtube! He'll show you that a lot of the numbers from manufactures can be a little biased for them to marketable. But he does a great job and is non-biased! Check him out!
Wow that was hard...
Hey guys, So Shane from Migro has done a Metric shit ton of reviews on lights. Check him out on youtube! He'll show you that a lot of the numbers from manufactures can be a little biased for them to marketable. But he does a great job and is non-biased! Check him out!
Wow that was hard...
bk78
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You still over here bragging about your thread over at the farm with 66k views? Is that a special achievement or something? Views on a Internet forum
If this were pre school you’d get a gold star buddy.