Monsanto cannabis yes or no? The DNA Protection Act of 2013

Harrekin said:

I told a person earlier in real life thaf if he didn't stop annoying me I'd pull his stupid looking ears off.

Speak for yourself bro, you might pretend to like people in real life, I'd rather be blunt as fuck.

Diplomacy is only useful when you gain something from it

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It kinda grows on ya....

burgertime2010 said:

Don't give us a diatribe on the end of the world.....talk about a waste of time, go find somewhere where you are even more irrelevant. The sad thing about a mind like yours is that inside you can see an intellect too lazy to let itself own the present or an ego so expansive it consumes its' audience because they almost admire the gall it takes. Regardless, the combination is powerful and I hope it serves you and the people who can care about you better than this. I don't know what you are about, just negate someone else, better yet show us what you got.

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Well, I'm very glad to waste your time....and I read this very closely, I really did. I have no idea what you are talking about. And, how you can have a personal opinion of me through what I have written in this various forum?

But, ignorance is bliss as they say. So, try not to explain. I've said many times NOW is all there is. So, you can go play in traffic?

But, still, None of what you just said makes any sense, even sentence by sentence. I read it twice, so as not to waste my time. Just seems to me you lack the manners you would show in person.

Instead of bathing me in the warrnth of your personal regard, why not reply to my disdain of this Earth Mother nonsense?

You are showing hubbub and disorder, while I remain disciplined and calm.

ilikecheetoes said:

hmm interesting. I was kind of on the side of not letting this shit get in the wild but you make great points. Hell Weed is a ummmm weed, and it barely grows in my yard. lol

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cannabis is not a GMO anyhow since it is not a cash crop. no company can even attempt to sell GMO weed seeds in america save by the underground, and DJ Short and the Amsterdam Weed Breeder Collectives arent Monsanto.

weed is Kinda-Sorta-Not-Quite-Banned based on the entire species, not individual cultivars or varieties. i couldnt legally grow GM weed any more than i could grow cocaine, not even if i planted the new variety "La Millionaira"

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.11/columbia.html?pg=1&topic=columbia&topic_set=

(read this shit. it's fascinating, apparently Columbian Coca Growers have created their own Roundup Ready coca plant)

Harrekin said:

I don't know if Doer has the fight for this one...

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May I have a stick...oh about 4 ft long?

Dr Kynes said:

cannabis is not a GMO anyhow since it is not a cash crop. no company can even attempt to sell GMO weed seeds in america save by the underground, and DJ Short and the Amsterdam Weed Breeder Collectives arent Monsanto.

weed is Kinda-Sorta-Not-Quite-Banned based on the entire species, not individual cultivars or varieties. i couldnt legally grow GM weed any more than i could grow cocaine, not even if i planted the new variety "La Millionaira"

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.11/columbia.html?pg=1&topic=columbia&topic_set=

(read this shit. it's fascinating, apparently Columbian Coca Growers have created their own Roundup Ready coca plant)

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That's pretty crazy shit re: the coco plant! Monsanto isn't who I'm worried about in the big picture, am more worried about those already in the Pharma market like Bayer, or chem-based like Dupont... with some of their tests going back to the early 90's.. the chart below is pretty self-explanatory as to why I may be a bit worried.

[TABLE="align: center"]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"] Alfalfa
[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Monsanto [/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Resist glyphosate herbicide to control weeds [/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bacteria, virus [/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Roundup Ready
2005 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"] Canola
[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bayer [/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Resist glufosinate herbicide to control weeds [/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bacteria, virus [/TD]
[TD="align: center"]LibertyLink 2000 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"] Canola
[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Monsanto [/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Resist glyphosate herbicide to control weeds [/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Arabidopsis, bacteria, virus [/TD]
[TD="align: center"] Roundup Ready
1999
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: ="12%", align: center"]Canola[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Monsanto[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Altered oil (high lauric acid) for soap and food products[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Calif bay, turnip rape, bacteria, virus[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Laurical
1995[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]Canola[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bayer[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Male sterile to facilitate hybridization; resist glufosinate herbicide to control weeds[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bacteria[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]SeedLink
2000[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: ="12%", align: center"]Chicory (radicchio)[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bejo Zaden[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Male sterile to facilitate hybridization[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bacteria[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]SeedLink
1997[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: ="12%", align: center"]Corn[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bayer[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Resist glufosinate herbicide to control weeds/male sterile to facilitate hybridization[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bacteria, virus[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]SeedLink
Date unknown[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: ="12%", align: center"]Corn[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bayer[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Resist glufosinate herbicide to control weeds[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bacteria, virus[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]LibertyLink
Date unknown[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]Corn[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bayer[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Resist glufosinate herbicide to control weeds/Bt toxin to control insect pests (European corn borer)[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bacteria, virus[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]StarLink
1998 (approved only for animal feed)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: ="12%", align: center"]Corn
[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Dow/Mycogen[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bt toxin to control insect pests (European corn borer)[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Corn, bacteria, virus[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]NatureGard
1995[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]Corn
[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Dow/Mycogen
DuPont/Pioneer
[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Resist glufosinate herbicide to control weeds/Bt toxin to control insect pests (Lepidopteran)[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Corn, bacteria, virus[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Herculex I
2001[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]Corn
[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]DuPont/Pioneer [/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Male sterile to facilitate hybridization[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Potato, corn, bacteria, virus[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Name unknown
1998[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]Corn
[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Monsanto/
DeKalb[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bt toxin to control insect pests (European corn borer)[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bacteria[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bt-Xtra
1997[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]Corn
[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Monsanto/
DeKalb[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Resist glufosinate herbicide to control weeds[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bacteria, virus[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Name, date unknown[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]Corn
[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Monsanto[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bt toxin to control insect pests (European corn borer)[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bacteria[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]YieldGard
1996[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: ="12%", align: center"]Corn
[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Monsanto[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Resist glyphosate herbicide to control weeds/Bt toxin to control insect pests (European corn borer)[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Arabidopsis, bacteria, virus[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Name unknown
1998[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: ="12%", align: center"]Corn
[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Monsanto[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Resist glyphosate herbicide to control weeds[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Arabidopsis, bacteria, virus[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Roundup Ready
1998[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: ="12%", align: center"] [/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Syngenta[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bt toxin to control insect pests (European corn borer)[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bacteria[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bt11
1996[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: ="12%", align: center"]Corn
[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Syngenta[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bt toxin to control insect pests (European corn borer)[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Corn, bacteria, virus[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Knock Out
1995[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: ="12%", align: center"]Corn (pop)
[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Syngenta[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bt toxin to control insect pests (European corn borer)[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Corn, bacteria, virus[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Knock Out
1998[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: ="12%", align: center"]Corn (sweet)
[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Syngenta[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bt toxin to control insect pests (European corn borer)[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bacteria[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bt11
1998[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: ="12%", align: center"]Cotton[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Monsanto/
Bayer[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Resist bromoxynil herbicide to control weeds/Bt toxin to control insect pests (cotton bollworms and tobacco budworm)[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bacteria[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Name unknown
1998[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]Cotton[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Monsanto/
Bayer[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Resist bromoxynil herbicide to control weeds[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bacteria, virus[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]BXN Cotton
1995[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: ="12%", align: center"]Cotton[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Monsanto[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bt toxin to control insect pests (cotton bollworms and tobacco budworm)[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bacteria[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bollgard
1995[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: ="12%", align: center"]Cotton[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Monsanto[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Resist glyphosate herbicide to control weeds[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Arabidopsis, bacteria, virus[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Roundup Ready
1996[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: ="12%", align: center"]Flax[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Univ Saskatchewan[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Resist sulfonylurea herbicide to grow in soils with herbicide residues[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Arabidopsis, bacteria[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]CDC Triffid
1999[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: ="12%", align: center"]Papaya[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Cornell Univ/
Univ Hawaii[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Resist papaya ringspot virus[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bacteria, virus[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Sunup, Rainbow
1997[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: ="12%", align: center"]Potato[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Monsanto[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bt toxin to control insect pests (Colorado potato beetle)[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bacteria[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]NewLeaf
1995[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: ="12%", align: center"]Potato
[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Monsanto[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bt toxin to control insect pests (Colorado potato beetle)/resist potato virus Y[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bacteria, virus[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]NewLeaf Y
1999[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: ="12%", align: center"]Potato
[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Monsanto[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bt toxin to control insect pests (Colorado potato beetle)/resist potato leafroll virus[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bacteria, virus[/TD]
[TD="align: center"] NewLeaf Plus
1998
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"] Soybean

[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bayer[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Resist glufosinate herbicide to control weeds[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bacteria, virus[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Name unknown
1998[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: ="12%", align: center"]Soybean
[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]DuPont[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Altered oil (high oleic acid) to increase stability, reduce polyunsaturated fatty acids[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Soybean, bean, bacteria, virus[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Name unknown
1997[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: ="12%", align: center"]Soybean
[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Monsanto[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Resist glyphosate herbicide to control weeds[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Petunia, soybean, bacteria, virus[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Roundup Ready
1995[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: ="12%", align: center"]Squash
[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Seminis
Vegetable Seed[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Resist watermelon mosaic 2 and zucchini yellow mosaic viruses[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bacteria, virus[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Freedom II
1995[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: ="12%", align: center"]Squash
[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Seminis
Vegetable Seed[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Resist watermelon mosaic 2, zucchini yellow mosaic, cucumber mosaic viruses[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bacteria, virus[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Name unknown
1997[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]Sugarbeet
[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bayer[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Resist glufosinate herbicide to control weeds[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bacteria, virus[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Name unknown
2000[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: ="12%", align: center"]Sugarbeet
[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Monsanto/
Syngenta[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Resist glyphosate herbicide to control weeds[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bacteria, virus[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Name unknown
1999[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]Tomato (cherry)
[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Agritope[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Altered ripening to enhance fresh market value[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bacteria[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Name unknown
1996[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: ="12%", align: center"]Tomato
[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]DNA Plant Technology[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Altered ripening to enhance fresh market value[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Tomato, bacteria, virus[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Endless Summer
1995[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]Tomato
[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Monsanto/
Calgene[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Altered ripening to enhance fresh market value[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Tomato, bacteria, virus[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]FlavrSavr
1994[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: ="12%", align: center"]Tomato
[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Monsanto[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Altered ripening to enhance fresh market value[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Bacteria[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Name unknown
1995[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: ="12%", align: center"]Tomato
[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Zeneca/
PetoSeed[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Thicker skin and altered pectin to enhance processing value[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Tomato, bacteria, virus[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Name unknown
1995[/TD]
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two words HELL NO!

The idea of GMO seeds, corn, whatever, I refuse to use. I don't want anything that mother nature didn't put together her damn self. A TRUE GMO HATER here!

roseypeach said:

two words HELL NO!

The idea of GMO seeds, corn, whatever, I refuse to use. I don't want anything that mother nature didn't put together her damn self. A TRUE GMO HATER here!

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what about forced hybrids and forced mutation crops?

those are unnatural, and cannot exist without human artifice as well.

Dr Kynes said:

what about forced hybrids and forced mutation crops?

those are unnatural, and cannot exist without human artifice as well.

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Agreed, saw a few fruit trees in the 4seasons nursery catalog yesterday that when in bloom, produce 5 or 6 different types of fruit on 1 tree.

Figong said:

Agreed, saw a few fruit trees in the 4seasons nursery catalog yesterday that when in bloom, produce 5 or 6 different types of fruit on 1 tree.

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those are grafted, even the craziest frootloops cant argue against grafting.

Dr Kynes said:

those are grafted, even the craziest frootloops cant argue against grafting.

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The tree was a seedling, didn't see any graft wounds/scars in the pic - must look closer. I was wondering of someone actually had the time/drive and re-built it from the ground up given that it's almost 50 bucks for 1 sapling.

Figong said:

Agreed, saw a few fruit trees in the 4seasons nursery catalog yesterday that when in bloom, produce 5 or 6 different types of fruit on 1 tree.

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....not that there is anything wrong with that....

Doer said:

....not that there is anything wrong with that....

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Agreed, I see no issue with that at all.

So, seriously. I think this is just right around the corner. Where are you on bat ears? Or dog snout on young adults?

EDit (i read too much si fi)

Figong said:

The tree was a seedling, didn't see any graft wounds/scars in the pic - must look closer. I was wondering of someone actually had the time/drive and re-built it from the ground up given that it's almost 50 bucks for 1 sapling.

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hmmm

i would double check.

a common ploy at nurseries is to pull the tag and stake from a more expensive plant and replace it with a much cheaper variety of similar size or description

you may hve see a 5 way graft tree tag on a standard single graft seedling, but all commercially available apple trees are grafted at least once, for desirable fruit wood on sturdy rootstock. (in fact almost all fruiting perennials are grafted)

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upon review you said it was in a catalog. that make sit even easier to explain, catalogs always show an idealized image as a representation. even if the image has no bearing on the tree at question.
my mum had a 5 way grafted apple tree for several years (before she brutally killed it by making me transplant it 5 times in one year, no joke) and you could totally see where the root stock was grafted with the differing varieties for each limb.

Well, grafting is hardly gm.

Doer said:

Well, I'm very glad to waste your time....and I read this very closely, I really did. I have no idea what you are talking about. And, how you can have a personal opinion of me through what I have written in this various forum? But, ignorance is bliss as they say. So, try not to explain. I've said many times NOW is all there is. So, you can go play in traffic? But, still, None of what you just said makes any sense, even sentence by sentence. I read it twice, so as not to waste my time. Just seems to me you lack the manners you would show in person. Instead of bathing me in the warrnth of your personal regard, why not reply to my disdain of this Earth Mother nonsense? You are showing hubbub and disorder, while I remain disciplined and calm.

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Sitting in judgement mocking, hijacking a dialogue and injecting your plaigarism, you are not Sun-Tzu and those are poor manners too. You are irrelevant in this case...deal with it. It takes balls to pontificate as you do about panic and death and unknowable truth without humility. The "calmer than you are" approach. Leave the dialogue alone unless you have an original thought....empathize...we have to deal with you not, the other way around. Your horse is dead and your sword is dull, Mother Earths' severed head shares your pillow while you sleep blissfully, none the wiser. Bliss is not me, I am hubbub and disorder. Leave well enough alone, you got nothing on me.

burgertime2010 said:

Sitting in judgement mocking, hijacking a dialogue and injecting your plaigarism, you are not Sun-Tzu and those are poor manners too. You are irrelevant in this case...deal with it. It takes balls to pontificate as you do about panic and death and unknowable truth without humility. The "calmer than you are" approach. Leave the dialogue alone unless you have an original thought....empathize...we have to deal with you not, the other way around. Your horse is dead and your sword is dull, Mother Earths' severed head shares your pillow while you sleep blissfully, none the wiser. Bliss is not me, I am hubbub and disorder. Leave well enough alone, you got nothing on me.

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is that the new Tupac?

its beautiful prose.

burgertime2010 said:

Sitting in judgement mocking, hijacking a dialogue and injecting your plaigarism, you are not Sun-Tzu and those are poor manners too. You are irrelevant in this case...deal with it. It takes balls to pontificate as you do about panic and death and unknowable truth without humility. The "calmer than you are" approach. Leave the dialogue alone unless you have an original thought....empathize...we have to deal with you not, the other way around. Your horse is dead and your sword is dull, Mother Earths' severed head shares your pillow while you sleep blissfully, none the wiser. Bliss is not me, I am hubbub and disorder. Leave well enough alone, you got nothing on me.

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Kinda with a back beat, right? UH hu...UH hu... Like that?

Boy, that was a raw nerve about that space rock I guess.

"Subtle and insubstantial, the expert leaves no trace; divinely mysterious, he is inaudible. Thus he is master of his enemy's fate."

(guess who?) Sun Tsu

I kinda liked that horse, too.

Doer said:

Kinda with a back beat, right? UH hu...UH hu... Like that? Boy, that was a raw nerve about that space rock I guess. "Subtle and insubstantial, the expert leaves no trace; divinely mysterious, he is inaudible. Thus he is master of his enemy's fate." (guess who?) Sun Tsu I kinda liked that horse, too.

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Meet her halfway to 2029.

Bucephalus. The horse's name was Bucephalus. Dead now, thanks to you.

So what is this gibber-jabber anyhow, Mayan Apocalyptic Modern?

The big rock, come from Sky. Many flee, many die.

This doesn't seem real to you, does it?

Mother would never doom her childern with her Right to be in the way?
It could never happen in your lifetime, we hope.

And, uh, aren't you kinda bossing me around a bit? Do this? Do that?

Do you think I will? Or not? Or is it salvia?