Monsanto cannabis yes or no? The DNA Protection Act of 2013

Genetically Engineered Cannabis yes or no?

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burgertime2010 said:
I am curious about the aspects of this issue that you have ignored....with all due respect. Why genetically modify a coded sequence that evolution has defined? Besides profit, what makes restricting this Un-American exactly? To what experience do you owe your certainty on the matter? Does DNA have intrinsic value...why/why not? Do you ever purchase non-GMO organic produce? Does human evolution technologically negate the sovereignty of all non-humans? In the preceding questions you have a choice to be intellectually honest or dismiss it as the work of a moron. Your input would be appreciated as would a level of respect. I am interested in whether arrogance or intellect motivates your slander and the truth as you know it to be. This is simply your voice, no debate, no links, just answers.
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I have never seen "sovereignty" of nonhuman life discussed in biology. How can this sovereignty be established to exist? What are its measures and properties? What is the experiment to do? cn
 
burgertime2010 said:
It would be one thing if we were making quality a directive, the GMO fear is eating empty food. I have a belief that beyond its chemistry or genetics there is a life force in foods that seems to get left behind. I wonder who really benefits in this new world....farmers are scraping by, I cant get real food at the market, hunger is still a mathematical certainty. What genetic research is motivated by philanthropy? As a farmer the proprietors of these things own you right? I don't mean to be self-righteous or disrespectful. Can I ask your opinion on something? Is the desperate state of the independent farm manufactured by the titans of industry who sell this shit? Kind of a join or die scenario? Innovation is my occupation, Technology is this masturbatory impulse to create an obsolescence in most cases...new is better...new is better....new is better. Bad technology is far more pervasive and damaging than we realize. Because I am cautious about GMO simply means I am undecided, the companies that make good food their bitch can go to hell. I cant shake my instinct that there is an insidious pulse behind the door. I apologize if my ranting seems negative and paranoid. The beneficial part of all of this I now see with more clarity and perspective....thank you.
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I think you answered some of my previous questions. You treat this article of faith as fact. The life force as you define it is supernatural and mystical. I hope you accept that i do not see that as a useful springboard for debate, as is the case with any Credo. cn
 
cannabineer said:
I think you answered some of my previous questions. You treat this article of faith as fact. The life force as you define it is supernatural and mystical. I hope you accept that i do not see that as a useful springboard for debate, as is the case with any Credo. cn
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I use the term sovereignty in terms of maintaining a crisp genetic descent. The ownership of ones' code with an emphasis on self preservation.
 
That I agree with. And I believe that is being honored, or call the ACLU!

We are Sovereign, but our trash is not. And we cast billions and billions of skin cells, just check your laundry bill.

Is that ours, anymore? Or have we discarded it. Salvage rights apply?

Can we extend that ownership principle to our code if all of us leave it all over the place?
 
cannabineer said:
I think you answered some of my previous questions. You treat this article of faith as fact. The life force as you define it is supernatural and mystical. I hope you accept that i do not see that as a useful springboard for debate, as is the case with any Credo. cn
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Free energy! Only thing missing is free gas.
 
burgertime, a life force left behind? So, to be clear you think we may be tampering with the genetic imperatives of the selected species.

That perhaps the will to survive of corn, itself as a species....??? I agree with that an precautions are being made and can be made on a personal level....tear a page from the heirloom survival guide of your choice. :)

This is how I see that the System is working. Any one person... we can be what we want; prepared as we care, and we only have about 36,000 days or much much less, and the world goes on.

Or we can be the Legend. We were prepared at the end of the world. The one that was there with what was needed and pulled it through with only a shoelace. I know people that crawled under barbwire that had only just appeared a few weeks before, to get out of Hungary. They were almost too late.

We all know what can happen, I hope. And we are as ready as we can at any one moment. But, it's a crap shoot. Many a Survivalist has gone to the grave with a $100,000 worth of readiness, still sitting there. It's a family affair.

Cursed to live in interesting times........or not.
 
Doer said:
burgertime, a life force left behind? So, to be clear you think we may be tampering with the genetic imperatives of the selected species. That perhaps the will to survive of corn, itself as a species....??? I agree with that an precautions are being made and can be made on a personal level....tear a page from the heirloom survival guide of your choice. :) This is how I see that the System is working. Any one person... we can be what we want; prepared as we care, and we only have about 36,000 days or much much less, and the world goes on. Or we can be the Legend. We were prepared at the end of the world. The one that was there with what was needed and pulled it through with only a shoelace. I know people that crawled under barbwire that had only just appeared a few weeks before, to get out of Hungary. They were almost too late. We all know what can happen, I hope. And we are as ready as we can at any one moment. But, it's a crap shoot. Many a Survivalist has gone to the grave with a $100,000 worth of readiness, still sitting there. It's a family affair. Cursed to live in interesting times........or not.
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True enough. I am not sure the logic I use is digestible to most people. There exists a binary simultaneity that plays out truths as one is able to become separated from observed reality. I am not an advocate for the sanctity of life nor am I concerned to entertain the worst case scenario with a tired Nihilism. There are existential issues when a population is hungrily awaiting life itself to become more user friendly. The dialogue is a fascinating, substantive, paradox and needs to be seen through hearts and minds until it is no longer swollen as it is. On a personal level, I do have a great respect for non-modified foods. I believe them to have a harmonic signature on health and intelligence as well as simply tasting better. The force left behind is emotive and bound by quantum law(non-linear). My concern is a tainted nature that looks a lot better in retrospect. The argument that humankind is a vector to punctuating a better code out of nature is still to young to support in my view. The system has crystallized into human sovereignty that can reflect our guardianship towards the natural world in the latest innovations. Treading the earth cautiously, we are unique in time-space. The race to save ourselves from ourselves is here. The species needs to cultivate a wisdom out of the blank checks here, a paradigm in which our revolution will be drawn into, astonishing quantum science that empowers the willing towards consciousness that abides by an invisible new format. Our wheelhouse is not technocratic, it seems to me that the mastery over the natural world has validated us as well as left us entitled, lazy, and invested in a singularity that cannot hold up. The binary is additive and subtractive together, capable of opposite and non-sequential realities, and from which a human mind is to sculpt the future script. This is hybrid science alongside ancient text revisited......a beginning of a nonsense that asks more from you. The idea is power and creation on a curved time-space, emotion comes first, then procedure, then a curious newness in your completed task. In a methodical revolution comes the empowered confusion that creation demands. Here a dialogue is inviting the uninvited towards unobservable conclusions as this mystery is a propellant to reinvention. Urgently devolve into mastery.
 
Doer said:
That I agree with. And I believe that is being honored, or call the ACLU! We are Sovereign, but our trash is not. And we cast billions and billions of skin cells, just check your laundry bill. Is that ours, anymore? Or have we discarded it. Salvage rights apply? Can we extend that ownership principle to our code if all of us leave it all over the place?
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I believe so, intent is where ones' privacy is easily violated. It is not intentionally discarded and by default is protected until it leaves your property, at least where I am. It is a massive intrusion to have that kind of personal data without consent. Confidentiality and the right to privacy should apply. The information is beyond what we think our genes are disclosing...I don't see a realistic way to preserve what you cannot protect without the law. This is no object of ownership, moreover, this code owns you....it should be protected like other sensitive data....especially for those with pre-existing health concerns.
 
burgertime2010 said:
True enough. I am not sure the logic I use is digestible to most people. There exists a binary simultaneity that plays out truths as one is able to become separated from observed reality. I am not an advocate for the sanctity of life nor am I concerned to entertain the worst case scenario with a tired Nihilism. There are existential issues when a population is hungrily awaiting life itself to become more user friendly. The dialogue is a fascinating, substantive, paradox and needs to be seen through hearts and minds until it is no longer swollen as it is. On a personal level, I do have a great respect for non-modified foods. I believe them to have a harmonic signature on health and intelligence as well as simply tasting better. The force left behind is emotive and bound by quantum law(non-linear). My concern is a tainted nature that looks a lot better in retrospect. The argument that humankind is a vector to punctuating a better code out of nature is still to young to support in my view. The system has crystallized into human sovereignty that can reflect our guardianship towards the natural world in the latest innovations. Treading the earth cautiously, we are unique in time-space. The race to save ourselves from ourselves is here. The species needs to cultivate a wisdom out of the blank checks here, a paradigm in which our revolution will be drawn into, astonishing quantum science that empowers the willing towards consciousness that abides by an invisible new format. Our wheelhouse is not technocratic, it seems to me that the mastery over the natural world has validated us as well as left us entitled, lazy, and invested in a singularity that cannot hold up. The binary is additive and subtractive together, capable of opposite and non-sequential realities, and from which a human mind is to sculpt the future script. This is hybrid science alongside ancient text revisited......a beginning of a nonsense that asks more from you. The idea is power and creation on a curved time-space, emotion comes first, then procedure, then a curious newness in your completed task. In a methodical revolution comes the empowered confusion that creation demands. Here a dialogue is inviting the uninvited towards unobservable conclusions as this mystery is a propellant to reinvention. Urgently devolve into mastery.
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now both me and Puffy are confused.
 
burgertime2010 said:
It is set up to articulate a concept that is, by its' design, impossible to articulate Actually, confusion is the logical response.
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In your words quoted, not mine.. you're trying to tell us something that we can't understand because you can't articulate it, and as such.. the capability to understand it would be illogical? Sounds like blindfolded mimes trying to play a game of charades.
 
Don't start. If you are certain that I am wrong than prove it and if you are just talking shit than I won't stop you. I would have you read but I sense antagonism brewing. Articulating a non-linear concept would require readers willing to become confused for a bit certainly. You can take it or leave it....I put it out there because it interests me and I am creative as an occupation. Quantum theory and the Tao are worth probing if you want to see confusion as it pertains here.
 
You're so obsessed with Buck that you take time out from watching the kids in the playground to post weak sauce comments.

Maybe he's the cure for diddlers like you?
 
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