SmeLLyTreeZ
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Just give them a good amount of time to root and re-veg and you will be suprised
Monster Cropping Increasing Yield
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R.C. COLA
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I know this is an older thread but I did this with my current grow of G bomb being kind of new to growing myself I didint know that this was a method to increase yeild. Intresting but what else is intresting is that my G bomb does not look anything like yours. I vegged for months and got know gained height but got a short bush under a meter tall. Does this method always produce the branshing you describe and showed? do you put right back into flower after revert to veggie?
cheezer1990
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thx for the info!
Trabecula
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As promised, here are some pics resuming my MonsterCropping.
Started with 3 clones, Jack La Mota from Medical Seeds first:
Maybe a week later or more, Amnesia Haze (Soma Seeds), a small and a bit skinny clone, in the back, and Haze Mist some days later, another small but this time bushy mid-flowering pop-corn bud clone, in the front:
After revegging, before flowering:
Jack La Mota (the most trained)
Amnesia Haze (the least trained)
Haze Mist
And final pics, JLM at 13 weeks (finished at 14):
Amnesia at 12 weeks (finished at 15 weeks) on the right, Jack la Mota on the left, you can't see Haze Mist here, as she is hidden behind the others. The weird sativa on the background is a Nanda Devi, from the himalayas:
Haze mist at 10 weeks (finished at 14/15), it fattened up quite a bit afterwards:
Cheers from Portugal! Hope you like them!
Started with 3 clones, Jack La Mota from Medical Seeds first:
Maybe a week later or more, Amnesia Haze (Soma Seeds), a small and a bit skinny clone, in the back, and Haze Mist some days later, another small but this time bushy mid-flowering pop-corn bud clone, in the front:
After revegging, before flowering:
Jack La Mota (the most trained)
Amnesia Haze (the least trained)
Haze Mist
And final pics, JLM at 13 weeks (finished at 14):
Amnesia at 12 weeks (finished at 15 weeks) on the right, Jack la Mota on the left, you can't see Haze Mist here, as she is hidden behind the others. The weird sativa on the background is a Nanda Devi, from the himalayas:
Haze mist at 10 weeks (finished at 14/15), it fattened up quite a bit afterwards:
Cheers from Portugal! Hope you like them!
tomcatjones
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SOOOOO... i did this by accident on one.. but it wasn't taken from a flowering plant.
why did it throw out the one unserrated leaves?
BTW it is for sure a moster
why did it throw out the one unserrated leaves?
BTW it is for sure a moster
Dank Hands
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I think I just learned something new to try! I think reading 20 useless threads before this might have been worth it.
Trabecula
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Yeah but have in mind that it will take a long, long time to do it. I started mine in July, finished mid-December... Also, I got almost the same results (a little less) with LST in the previous grow and took 1 month less or so... I mean, it's indeed a great technic and I think everybody should do it at least once to learn about it but that doesn't mean it is the best/most suitable, to the most of us.
@tomcatjones: probably it was already flowering, even if it wasn't visible to the naked eye. have you got pics?
Cheers!
Trabecula
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No doubt about that, it works great
IMO, it only takes too much time, at least with the sativas I tried... maybe I'll give it a try with indicas next time.
Cheers!
PS: about the "no cloning during flowering" people, well... people have a tendency to resist change, even if they don't know what they're talking about. Their loss...
Dank Hands
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Hey bro, have you ever taken a monster cropped plant in the veg state and cloned that?No doubt about that, it works great
IMO, it only takes too much time, at least with the sativas I tried... maybe I'll give it a try with indicas next time.
Cheers!
PS: about the "no cloning during flowering" people, well... people have a tendency to resist change, even if they don't know what they're talking about. Their loss...
kindnugz
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I last posted on this thread on 11/29/11 that I was going to try re-vegging. I took a few tiny lower branches off a pineapple express plant that I was about to harvest. I put them in rockwool and onto a burpee seedling hydromat with heater and dome. The lighting was a modified aerogarden. In about two weeks they sprung roots so I transplanted them into pots and put them under 125 watt cfls. They did nothing for weeks and I thought I was simply keeping alive these tiny buds. They finally are starting to sprout little growths at a little over 5 weeks.
Yipee, I love this strain! Thanks to this thread for teaching me a new technique!
I plan to veg this one into a total monster even if it takes me until spring.
Yipee, I love this strain! Thanks to this thread for teaching me a new technique!
I plan to veg this one into a total monster even if it takes me until spring.
Trabecula
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Nope, I never did that. But I'm quite confident that it would be a nice way to get a lot of great clones. What would be even more interesting would be to reveg the clone, force it to flower as soon as possible, reveg and flower it again (let's say, outdoors...)! If one day I have the place to do so, maybe I will...
Cheers!
growlites1950
Member
yes, same thing happened to me time wise and now they twice as big in flower as my original blueberrys, which are a bitch to clone anyhow much in flower, well worth the wait.
johnnybigtree
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everything iv seen in the last 6 years of growing tells me you will see bananas in the near future... but idk everything i may be wrong i know if you re-veg a plant two or three times it WILL pollinate itself you might get away with it if its a super stable plant but i wouldnt try it with this deadhead or anything that has been selfed a few times just to damn unstable
beginner.legal.growop
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you accidentally cut a branch off a flowering plant, put it in cloning solution, and then into a propagator w/ humidity dome? hmmmm...
Trailingpickles
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Great information Ill be sure to try this out!
desertdog
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Now I know why my Mk Ultra did that I had a mother that croaked and I took a load of flowered clones 4 weeks in flower and they went nuts like that. I put em in humidity dome and most of them rooted in three weeks and they grew fast once they rooted so I did again out of laziness with a Bubba Kush cross to Blue Himalaya and only got half to root, but they turned out the same way. I think I am sold on this concept just out of making my life easier and the results. I never got a hermie either, and if I did I would make fembots with it anyway. Thanks again for the post.
growingforfun
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I just did this with a large plant, plant in 5 gallon bucket ~ 3 ft put into flower for about 3 weeks till fingernail size nugs everywhere, put back into veg, 1.5 month later it's huge each bid site is the size of a new plant pretty much. Plant is now in a 25 gallon set to flower for real in 3 days hoping for 3 lbs off this plant. Due to monster cropping an long veg the plant is outrageous
This is the technique i used for my last 2 trays of clones. I took them off my buddys flowering room, they were about 21 days in, i took 100 clones, and had 100% success, all rooted, and are vegging now. 
So I rarely start threads but hear it goes.
Im not going to get into deatail on why we do this or why it works other then that our yeild has increased by 30-40% when done correctly. Enjoi
Monster cropping. One of my collegues and started trying this teq about two springs ago. We used a beautiful Purple pheno that weve been working for years now. Started here in bud indoor in a perfect enviroment, took some cuttings about 2 weeks into flower. Never really hit it with flower nutes though. When we made the clones, they had marble sizes buds on them. We went throught the cloning and hardnening off process to get them back outside. The end result of this was a large, very, very bushy Purple plant with no main stem. A shit load of branches and nodes though. I havent turned back outdoors and its all known as Monster Cropping.
Heres some pictures that I pasted from another site. I will get my pics soon, my outdoor are far from me so be patient.If anyone else has had good success to this, chime in please!
Monster Cropping
Monster Cropping or Flowering Clones is another method of growing that was brought to my attention by one of our members; JWP, who also was kind enough to provide the pictures for this part of the guide. This method involves taking clones of flowering plants and then forcing them to root and re-veg, which eventually leads to very bushy plants with a great number of branches and nodes. I named this technique Monster Cropping because that is what you will get, real monster plants, but also because this method was introduced to the scene by a grower named greenmonster714. He in turn credits a grower named Feral for discovering this technique.
Taking clones from flowering plants goes against all that has been said about cloning cannabis and might therefore seem a bit confusing at first but the science behind the technique is sound and the results speak for themselves.
You start by taking clones of a plant that is about 21 days into flowering. This seems to be the best time to do it but you can also takes clones at a later stage with the same results. The lower branches make better clones as they have not yet become rigid and will also root faster and more easily than say the top cola. Move the new cutting into a glass of water and let it sit for a while in order to make sure that no air gets into the vascular system during handling, as this can be fatal to your new plant. You should make the cut so that it runs along the stem as this will increase the surface area for water and possibly nutrient uptake, depending on what method of cloning you use. Personally, I have found that using a small hydroponic setup or a propagation bubbler is by far the best way to clone cannabis plants. I will not expand on the subject of cloning here, if you need more information on how to clone your plants, have a look at the official cloning thread by JJScorpio
In the picture below, you can see how the clone from a flowering plant been has placed in a propagation bubbler for rooting and re-vegging. This also means that you will have to put the clone back under a veg light schedule of 18/6, 20/4 or even 24/0. Clones do not need strong light so a small CFL will do. You can remove some of the buds at this stage in order to encourage the plant to revert back into its vegetative cycle but leave the topmost flower alone.
It will take several weeks for the clone to root, some never do, so it is best that you take a great number of clones at the same time in order to ensure that at least one makes it on to the next stage. It might be a good idea to place the clones inside a humidity dome, which can be bought at gardening stores or custom built for your specific needs. The high humidity inside the dome will make sure that the plants do not dry out and die. Ventilate the dome every day just to make sure that the plants don't get attacked by mold.
Keep in mind however that the most important thing when it comes to cloning is to provide the fresh cuttings with plenty of oxygen and that is why the propagation bubbler is so effective compared to other methods.
The clones might be a sad sight at first but as soon as they root, they will also revert back into the vegetative stage and start growing again. Once the clones have rooted properly and started growing again, they will put out single unserrated leaves at first but the normal leafs are soon to follow. It might be a good idea to apply some training at this stage, tying down some of the tops will encourage even more branching. You can also provide some heat underneath the clones as this will speed up the rooting process considerably.
When the plant starts growing again, the incredible branching power of the flowering clone becomes apparent.
As you can see, this plant has grown into a real monster, and all this without ever topping the plant. That's the beauty of this technique; you can forget all about topping and FIM'ing since the flowering clone will sprout all these new branches all by itself.
This plant is now perfectly suited for a SCROG or perhaps even a SOG grow. This one plant can easily fill up an entire Scrog net in no time. Several of these plants grown in SOG will definitely give you a grand harvest.
There are other benefits from using this technique; it also removes the need for keeping mother plants. When the newly re-vegged plant is flowered, it can also provide more clones for a perpetual harvest. Recycling at its best. This might be of interest to those who need to keep down their number of plants.
Needless to say, this method is highly effective thanks to the heavy branching that occurs after a flowering clone is re-vegged. With further training and some patience, you will get some real monster plants and thereby also a monster harvest.