Multiple spirit guides? (non-believers please don't comment)

A few days ago, I got really high. So I decided to meditate. My experience, which is the best I can describe it, came next.

At first nothing happened. Then I saw these purplish glowing dots. One by one these dots turned into humans, elves, animals, etc. But they looked like one color purple holograms. The dots then returned as dots and completely surrounded me. They became a tunnel. I felt like I was floating off my chair. I was still aware I was in the chair.

Soon I forgot the chair. I was weightless and traveling in space. I became aware there was another presence. It was a good warm feeling. But it was a dark evil too. It was everything. It communicated without words what it called itself, The Devine.

The dark room I was in turned to a bright light and I stepped onto a desert like ground. The colors were beyond real and more vibrant.

My spirit guide was there, along with not quite a hundred others. But they were human animal hybrids like the Egyptian or Native American have. There were green cactus and blue, red and white flowers.

At first they didn't notice me. But once they did, they sent me back. As I was coming to, they spoke to me. They invited me to experience their way. But I freaked out. I was so close. The closer I got, the faster my heart raced. It felt like I was dying. Then I just opened my eyes. The room was pitch dark again.

I went to my room and fell into a deep sleep. All I was left with was a feeling of what kind of bizarre experience I had.

I have a multiple spirit guide that watches over the quality of my work, and keeps me ... oh look! Crows! cn

cannabineer said:

I have a multiple spirit guide that watches over the quality of my work, and keeps me ... oh look! Crows! cn

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(I was going to post a plumber's butt image - then this one came along! )

I believe in lots of stuff, so that would make me a believer. Are you sure you didn't just doze off there and slip into your self created dream reality? Sounds like a pretty cool dream, cool story bro.

This one time i was visited by demons, no joke... i can't be certain, but i think it was a hallucination or a dream... but it sure as hell felt real.

The look on her face ... "my rack is a German plumber's buttmeat. Kill me now if you have a shred of decency." cn

Meditation can get pretty random, that seems like a cool experience though.

My craziest one waswhile I was on dxm, I was playing bloons tower defense on my brain. I had this dart gun, and I shot all the"negative" baloons.. Boy I was a happy camper afterwards too.

We all make our own reality, meditation is an important part of life I believe. Never understood why people don't do it more often. It's so easy. You literally sit there and do nothing

Guide you where? That's a problem, init?

Sounds like you tapped into your pineal gland, my friend. I am not sure about this spirit guide stuff. Im sure something like it exists and perhaps you have a bunch and theres one main guide that took a liking to you. Cant remember if spirit guides and spirit animals are the same thing. Is your spirit guide a half man half animal hybrid?

I STRONGLY suggest you read this book. Your experience sounds exactly like what is discussed in here.

Chief,

You're talking about DMT? I thought the only way to do such was with Ayahuasca, etc drugs containing DMT. I didn't think you can release enough from your pineal gland, by will alone? So you think my body was flooded with DMT, that's what I experienced? But how come I can remember it so clearly? Those who have done DMT, like that, say those memories fade quickly. Just like awakening from a dream, your vivid dream is forgotten.

I think if DMT is being released, then its in very small amounts at first. Because what happens is almost like hypnagogic hallucinations that you can see more clearly. But I have no clue.. Does anyone actually know, physically, what happens during deep meditation?

I only remember bits and pieces from the couple of times I've done DMT..

Great experience report, thank you for sharing. There are many avenues with regards to creative visualization and meditation. Please remember that all things experienced are 'real' for you experienced them. It doesn't matter that you weren't necessarily present in your body, this does not discount the 'reality' of your perceptions at all. Remember all physical matter is 99.99% empty space. If anything is an illusion, to me, it would appear that it is the physical world.

Guides speak in feelings sometimes, and the feelings they put in us can be studied in order to gain deeper understanding into their meaning. Much of the information we receive from guides is multi-layered and confusing, which makes for some frustration some times but it is part of the great mystery of life.

If you'd like to chat about this sort of stuff in more detail, I'm always down just PM me or just keep talkin. Much respect for ya,

MS

high|hgih said:

Does anyone actually know, physically, what happens during deep meditation?

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It feels like you are dreaming, but you can't believe it, because as soon as you think, it goes away.

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I think the DMT landscape is simply disrupting or "editing" our processing of visual information and causing a chaotic interpretation of it inspired by hyperactive phosphene activity. The brain may fill in the blanks and since we all have an affinity for anthropomorphic things, a humanoid entity may appear out of all this chaos. Our "imaginal workplace" will take the center stage in brain activity, allowing internal data to be interpreted as external stimuli.

dude you are bi polar . . . you need help, i know people who have harmed those they love on a episode and not even remember . . . .they have lost many good people in there lives . . . .. .dont be a fool call your doctor righ taway . . . .

you guys should not play into this, he is bi polar . . . . and seeing hearing guides is a normal sign of a manic episode . . this is not healthy or good . . .

this guy needs help not validation that beign insane is ok

Canna Sylvan said:

Chief,

You're talking about DMT? I thought the only way to do such was with Ayahuasca, etc drugs containing DMT. I didn't think you can release enough from your pineal gland, by will alone? So you think my body was flooded with DMT, that's what I experienced? But how come I can remember it so clearly? Those who have done DMT, like that, say those memories fade quickly. Just like awakening from a dream, your vivid dream is forgotten.

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I really dont know much about this subject, all I can do is suggest things that make sense to me. I think the DMT you produce naturally is able to be controlled easier compared to taking the drug from external sources. Its sometimes really hard to remember amazing dreams and lucid dreams yet when someone goes from a conscious state of mind right to a dream like state of mind that is called astral projection and astral travelers are able to vividly recall their experiences. I talked to a guy who was able to put his tongue on the roof of his mouth and blast off into astral travel, he was totally against drugs though and did not like my DMT explanation lol.

dude you are bi polar . . . you need help, i know people who have harmed those they love on a episode and not even remember . . . .they have lost many good people in there lives . . . .. .dont be a fool call your doctor righ taway . . . .

you guys should not play into this, he is bi polar . . . . and seeing hearing guides is a normal sign of a manic episode . . this is not healthy or good . . .

this guy needs help not validation that beign insane is ok

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What exactly is insane? If one of these guides were to tell him 'ey you! Ey! Go kill your sister' and he acted on it, sure he'd be insane. But the thing is that a big key in meditation is to keep an open mind. None of it is really real. Or is it? The question is what makes it interesting. If it was in fact real what was happening it would be a lot more interesting but thats just not how it is because its completely random. It is beneficial because sometimes you pick a part out that can be very enlightening. Plus it just feels good... man..

All of these enlightening experiences were inside of you already, obviously, so why would you feel as if they are external things telling you what to do? And even if someone was a slave to these guides, murdering old ladies and raping children, in their mind theyd be right. We'd be insane.

So your insane, and I'm insane, and he's insane.

If you think you are sane, you are out of your mind.

You got the right idea,

btw your the one who always talks about that supernatural book.. Well, my dad recommended it to me and so I burrowed it. I decided if he liked it, and you were trying so hard to get people to read it, then I'd give it a go because why not. I haven't started it yet, but I will soon

Sam,

I've only nearly killed people while taking meds my doctors told me to use. I've gotten high off my ass hundreds of times. Not once have I felt the feelings which cause me to get violent. Only three times did I have a negative trip, every time it was a with a strong indica. For me, indica makes me have feelings of guilt. Sativas always make me feel nice and euphoric, in high enough doses. About 0.15 grams smoked or 3 grams ingested, gives me an intense stupified high. This one time I smoked about 0.7 grams, and I got so high, the whole time I felt like I was going to throw up. I couldn't remember anything for more than a few seconds. If it weren't for the nausia, it would've been one hell of a ride.

Like I said in another post, about 24 hours after I get high, I have this nice euphoric feeling, which is much like the feeling you got as a kid on Christmas morning.

So I hardly need the help of a doctor. More like, I need help from getting a doctor's help.

Psychology isn't science. It's glorified voodoo witch doctors. It uses the same "scientific method" alchemy does. My meditation dreamscapes are more scientific.

And seriously, I'm more sane than your grasp of "English," but I use the term loosely.

i know it sucks and i know the manic episodes to you seem like a the most healthy option . . after a few years of being like this you will realize all that you have lost and done

get help it takes a while to find a bi polar med that works for an individual it is not a once pill helps all . . .so you will have to work at it . . my ability to write does not live in teh real world . . you do and my bad writing and grammar to not cause problems in the world your bi polar condition if not treated will

sorry to say buddy you are going to have to work at it for life

high|hgih said:

What exactly is insane? If one of these guides were to tell him 'ey you! Ey! Go kill your sister' and he acted on it, sure he'd be insane. But the thing is that a big key in meditation is to keep an open mind. None of it is really real. Or is it? The question is what makes it interesting. If it was in fact real what was happening it would be a lot more interesting but thats just not how it is because its completely random. It is beneficial because sometimes you pick a part out that can be very enlightening. Plus it just feels good... man..

All of these enlightening experiences were inside of you already, obviously, so why would you feel as if they are external things telling you what to do? And even if someone was a slave to these guides, murdering old ladies and raping children, in their mind theyd be right. We'd be insane.

So your insane, and I'm insane, and he's insane.

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do some research man . . .bi polar disorders cause a lot of harm , i know a persons whose sister is bi polar and a friend whose mother is bi polar . . . its not normal and they have irreparably damaged the lives of the people around them, over 15 years i have seen some very serious aggresive and destructive behavior, all while the person in manic mode tells us its ok and great

its something you either know about or don't . . and not a what about this or this . . kinda argument . . . just like schizo's people who are bi polar can have all sorts or reality distortions and voices

im not saying your doing those things, im saying that as your episodes go on you will deteriorate over time to becoming less and less cognitive or reasonable . . its fucked up that yall incurage this to happen . . . as when he wakes up in a hospital bed he will not be having as good of a time if he went in to figure it out responsibly