My bad experience with a local MMJ wholesaler :-(

Trichyn9ne

Well-Known Member
sounds like brittany spears may be looking for coke soon!!! even though scott did the right thing days after it should have gone down still doesn't mean anyone should do business in the future with him.
 

hydgrow

Well-Known Member
Holy shit guys, just have to share:

Tom-Have you received your money order yet?
So i feel bad about how things and went and were handled. I'm sorry, i fucked up.
I really don't know what to do to make things better for ya...
So what i'm goin to do is just tell you, i'm sorry for the way things went and i hope we can do business in the future the way i always do business. I'm deeply sorry i dropped the ball on you, that wasn't cool.
Now what i'm goin to do is next day you your order anyways. FREE.
I hope we can move forward to do business in the future the way we really do it.


Thanks for your time and understanding.
Scott-TGA


May the dank be with you.

Has this dude manned up regardless of Sub's leadership?!? If so, I must give mad props ...
So I want to make sure I got this correct. This scott guy is the original dude who was the one that "lost" your money order to his daughters crayons? Correct?

If so, and only if so, I don't understand how that is stand up of him? It took you getting called a liar, then lied to, then treated like a jerk by his "Boss" (for lack of better words) for him to do this. Stand up would of been to not act like an asshat from the get go and offer some compassion and customer service. I do not for the life of me understand how people justify breeders and middle men treating us like shit just because it is MMJ, or seeds or whatever..... A BUSINESS IS A BUSINESS AND THEIR IS NO EXCUSE FOR BEING AN ASSHOLE AS A BUSINESS MAN!!!! If so they should go out of business.

I think the only reason he is even eating his own shitty correspondences is because of the negativity in this thread that CANNOT be erased by either of the 2 people that were jacking you around. That being said if they could just delete this thread I do not believe he would of sent that apology. NOT VERY STAND UP IF YOU HAVE TO STRESS AND FIGHT FOR SOMEONE TO TREAT YOU LIKE THEY SHOULD IMO.
 
WOW...
Whats up everyone?
i just tuned into this shit show. WTF?!
so i happen to know this "scott" guy probally better than most people. first of all, all of the attacks/assumptions towards him and the way he does business. Every single one of them is wrong!
And if anyone knew the person you were saying this about i think you all'd be ashamed! i hope none of you are adults acting like that. I don't care if the guy screwed up an order or not. the stuff you people, or should i say sheep....have said about him, his business and his daughter. i'm no attorney but i know slander is illegal and you can get your A$$ sued, especially if someone's business is effected, and with 2,000+ views on this. ooooohhhh boy.

Being as i know scott and JUST got some timewreck from him....I can assure you that "THE MAN13" has conveniently left out some email's that would make you question his very accusations of this man scott and the way he handled this whole thing in the first place.

as for "the man13" and others calling him unprofessional....i think not. you guys should look at your own unprofessional-isms in talking about SOMEBODY ELSE'S BUSINESS. Mind your own business people!!!! by the time i got to reading page 3 of the 13 pages of this crap i thought i was in the girls locker room! holy gossip people!!!! have you nothing better to do than maintain a faux internet ego by trying to destroy someone's life in the real world? This dude scott is a real stand up guy! i've seen him hand out hundreds of seeds personally to sic people who cant afford them! so don't tell me about lack of compassion. not to mention him and sub give FREE seeds to any veterans who get certified at the clinic in TC. And thats aside from all the other great stuff he's done for our community, with out a thanks most of the time at that!
This "car-less" guy, almost died in a car (his car) accident a couple months ago when a oncoming car crossed the centerline, which totaled his honda. Than the tranny went out on his truck, which in fact is at the shop getting fixed now! i know cause i picked him up from the shop. Not to mention he just moved too! have any of you moved a large garden mid grow? not only is it a pain in the a$$ it's a huge setback in anyone's life. Between that and other personal shit he's been through in just the last year. Shit you should give him props for doing what he does. Hell, i've seen people commit suicide with less crap on their plates!

Than you people start commenting on his 4 year old daughter!!! referencing her to eating cannabis!!! what is wrong with you people! not only is that not the case,but to talk about anyone's kid like that.. that's sic....really people? that's offensive.

Boy this is interesting.
scott's been trying to fix this shit as professionally as possible and all you people are here crucifying the man you've never meet or been wronged by. So what a problem happened! No reason to mob-up. You all gonna jump off a cliff if someone else does? damn!
Seems to me from what i've read and know scott's tried everything possible to resolve a situation with someone who seems only to insists on being unreasonable! Boy i cant wait to tell him about all this shit you guys are saying i'm sure he'll love that, seeing as he just fixed the problem from what it looks like. I cant believe this was goin on while he was trying to correct the problem the whole time! man is he goin to be pissed.

so someone throws a fit ,tries to ruin someones hard-earned reputation, and gets their order comp'ed still. And you people still stand here and question a guy in a situation that isn't even your business in the first place.


Where are all the people that scott and TGA have done so much for in michigan to back this guy up? Oh yea, they're probally growing their TGA and minding their own business.

Some of you people and your EGO's. you crack me up. Grow your herb, weather it be TGA or not. mind your business. smoke your herb, and don't loose your cool, life's too short guys.


As a matter of fact, i'm not gonna call him with this bullshit. i'm just gonna pop in and tell him this crap over a big QrazyTrain fattie, i know i'd want it after being unnecessarily ran through the ringer.

lol you guys are a trip...these chat rooms got more drama than a afternoon sitcom. LMFAO.

oh yea, food for thought guys. At no point what-so-ever has scott bashed this guy or said anything bad about or to this upset customer. So why don't you all see and take this for what it is. Someone trippin over small stuff.
Whatever happened about us worrying about bill schutte and all the political shit. we're on the same team at the end of the day. but no, ya'll wanna harass the shit out of some guy who's trying to do his job and deal with a customer. Weather that customer is right,wrong,pissed or happy. None of this involves anyone but those 2 people.

poor scott, must be feeling like Jesus when he got nailed to the cross.
You people are heathens.
And your words have been ignorant and barbaric.
And than to ruthlessly smash talk his (let alone anyone's) kid.

Have a nice day. life's short. get over shit
 

TheMan13

Well-Known Member
I can assure you that "THE MAN13" has conveniently left out some email's that would make you question his very accusations of this man scott and the way he handled this whole thing in the first place.
Be sure to share those emails with us when you get back ...

Can you please define slander for us also :?:
 

vilify

Well-Known Member
You just made me laugh. Thanks for that...

Would respond to your bullshit. but i have better things to do.
 

abe supercro

Well-Known Member
Give me a fucking break friend. Your friend reps TGA, both him and sub made excuses when this whole situation could have been avoided if they had just taken full responsibility from the get-go. Both those ppl deserved the negative press! As a customer and longtime supporter of TGA, this is my business. Bucha half-assed business ppl and seedy fxckers better take care of their customers proper or they get shitstorm. Welcome to the Internet!

Try making it past ten posts here and you'll realize that your efforts to blindly support your friend with some sob story will only end up hurting more than helping. stay professional folks. this isn't a hippy commune.
 

stumpjumper

Well-Known Member
What they said... And the sad truth is.. If you're not watching while your kid is coloring all over your customers money orders, you're not watching while they get into the tray and eat the hash..

I say that because I have kids of my own, I'm an experienced father and if you leave them unattended they will get into shit they arent supposed too. (however I keep my shit locked up so no hash eating at my house) I'd say a kid coloring on money orders is unattended wouldn't you?

Read into it however you'd like to though.
 

hydgrow

Well-Known Member
WOW...
Whats up everyone?
i just tuned into this shit show. WTF?!
so i happen to know this "scott" guy probally better than most people. first of all, all of the attacks/assumptions towards him and the way he does business. Every single one of them is wrong!
And if anyone knew the person you were saying this about i think you all'd be ashamed! i hope none of you are adults acting like that. I don't care if the guy screwed up an order or not. the stuff you people, or should i say sheep....have said about him, his business and his daughter. i'm no attorney but i know slander is illegal and you can get your A$$ sued, especially if someone's business is effected, and with 2,000+ views on this. ooooohhhh boy.

Being as i know scott and JUST got some timewreck from him....I can assure you that "THE MAN13" has conveniently left out some email's that would make you question his very accusations of this man scott and the way he handled this whole thing in the first place.

as for "the man13" and others calling him unprofessional....i think not. you guys should look at your own unprofessional-isms in talking about SOMEBODY ELSE'S BUSINESS. Mind your own business people!!!! by the time i got to reading page 3 of the 13 pages of this crap i thought i was in the girls locker room! holy gossip people!!!! have you nothing better to do than maintain a faux internet ego by trying to destroy someone's life in the real world? This dude scott is a real stand up guy! i've seen him hand out hundreds of seeds personally to sic people who cant afford them! so don't tell me about lack of compassion. not to mention him and sub give FREE seeds to any veterans who get certified at the clinic in TC. And thats aside from all the other great stuff he's done for our community, with out a thanks most of the time at that!
This "car-less" guy, almost died in a car (his car) accident a couple months ago when a oncoming car crossed the centerline, which totaled his honda. Than the tranny went out on his truck, which in fact is at the shop getting fixed now! i know cause i picked him up from the shop. Not to mention he just moved too! have any of you moved a large garden mid grow? not only is it a pain in the a$$ it's a huge setback in anyone's life. Between that and other personal shit he's been through in just the last year. Shit you should give him props for doing what he does. Hell, i've seen people commit suicide with less crap on their plates!

Than you people start commenting on his 4 year old daughter!!! referencing her to eating cannabis!!! what is wrong with you people! not only is that not the case,but to talk about anyone's kid like that.. that's sic....really people? that's offensive.

Boy this is interesting.
scott's been trying to fix this shit as professionally as possible and all you people are here crucifying the man you've never meet or been wronged by. So what a problem happened! No reason to mob-up. You all gonna jump off a cliff if someone else does? damn!
Seems to me from what i've read and know scott's tried everything possible to resolve a situation with someone who seems only to insists on being unreasonable! Boy i cant wait to tell him about all this shit you guys are saying i'm sure he'll love that, seeing as he just fixed the problem from what it looks like. I cant believe this was goin on while he was trying to correct the problem the whole time! man is he goin to be pissed.

so someone throws a fit ,tries to ruin someones hard-earned reputation, and gets their order comp'ed still. And you people still stand here and question a guy in a situation that isn't even your business in the first place.


Where are all the people that scott and TGA have done so much for in michigan to back this guy up? Oh yea, they're probally growing their TGA and minding their own business.

Some of you people and your EGO's. you crack me up. Grow your herb, weather it be TGA or not. mind your business. smoke your herb, and don't loose your cool, life's too short guys.


As a matter of fact, i'm not gonna call him with this bullshit. i'm just gonna pop in and tell him this crap over a big QrazyTrain fattie, i know i'd want it after being unnecessarily ran through the ringer.

lol you guys are a trip...these chat rooms got more drama than a afternoon sitcom. LMFAO.

oh yea, food for thought guys. At no point what-so-ever has scott bashed this guy or said anything bad about or to this upset customer. So why don't you all see and take this for what it is. Someone trippin over small stuff.
Whatever happened about us worrying about bill schutte and all the political shit. we're on the same team at the end of the day. but no, ya'll wanna harass the shit out of some guy who's trying to do his job and deal with a customer. Weather that customer is right,wrong,pissed or happy. None of this involves anyone but those 2 people.

poor scott, must be feeling like Jesus when he got nailed to the cross.
You people are heathens.
And your words have been ignorant and barbaric.
And than to ruthlessly smash talk his (let alone anyone's) kid.

Have a nice day. life's short. get over shit
Listen here buddy I own a VERY sucessful business and mistakes and bad customer service happen. I am very guilty of this myself. But one thing remains.....reading thru threads that sub has control of I beleive that he does absolutilly deletes negative post. That right there speak volumes about his person. So in conclusion IMO he is a shit headed liar and has something ton hide.

On another note, great first post way to make friends and way to be an even bigger jag-off (bigger than swerve and thats something) by not having any "proof in the pudding"so to speak.

Also even if someone is the biggest asshole ever as a customer, as a business owner, you do not stoop to their level and reply as sub-douche did. FUCK OFF ASSHAT!
 

HomeLessBeans

New Member
damn it glad ya beat me! not sure what to say after such an eloquent rebuttal... but to dumfuk catnabber? I know Scott. want me to tell you what color headband he tends to wear? Like the number for Mis at the pain place??? try to read what has been posted not just the cliff notes (as if he knows what that means) Scott fucked up.period fuckin dot..ain't the first time..sub is the person that this and other threads/posts where directed at.

here it is is a nut sack:
customer service means SERVICING THE FUCKIN CUSTOMER. We all are the customer. or were
 

hydgrow

Well-Known Member
What they said... And the sad truth is.. If you're not watching while your kid is coloring all over your customers money orders, you're not watching while they get into the tray and eat the hash..

I say that because I have kids of my own, I'm an experienced father and if you leave them unattended they will get into shit they arent supposed too. (however I keep my shit locked up so no hash eating at my house) I'd say a kid coloring on money orders is unattended wouldn't you?

Read into it however you'd like to though.
Right!!! I sell canabis seeds and my kid is coloring in a weed catalog. Now thats great parenting skills LMFAO!!!!! Here honey come into daddys weed office and take what you will LOL.
 

HomeLessBeans

New Member
oh yeah and a big PS I like the guy more or less just won't do business with him...even for the New World Seeds,which are head and shoulders so much more than subby's weak genetics. my opine. backed by solid keepers
 

Corso312

Well-Known Member
WOW...
Whats up everyone?
i just tuned into this shit show. WTF?!
so i happen to know this "scott" guy probally better than most people. first of all, all of the attacks/assumptions towards him and the way he does business. Every single one of them is wrong!
And if anyone knew the person you were saying this about i think you all'd be ashamed! i hope none of you are adults acting like that. I don't care if the guy screwed up an order or not. the stuff you people, or should i say sheep....have said about him, his business and his daughter. i'm no attorney but i know slander is illegal and you can get your A$$ sued, especially if someone's business is effected, and with 2,000+ views on this. ooooohhhh boy.

Being as i know scott and JUST got some timewreck from him....I can assure you that "THE MAN13" has conveniently left out some email's that would make you question his very accusations of this man scott and the way he handled this whole thing in the first place.

as for "the man13" and others calling him unprofessional....i think not. you guys should look at your own unprofessional-isms in talking about SOMEBODY ELSE'S BUSINESS. Mind your own business people!!!! by the time i got to reading page 3 of the 13 pages of this crap i thought i was in the girls locker room! holy gossip people!!!! have you nothing better to do than maintain a faux internet ego by trying to destroy someone's life in the real world? This dude scott is a real stand up guy! i've seen him hand out hundreds of seeds personally to sic people who cant afford them! so don't tell me about lack of compassion. not to mention him and sub give FREE seeds to any veterans who get certified at the clinic in TC. And thats aside from all the other great stuff he's done for our community, with out a thanks most of the time at that!
This "car-less" guy, almost died in a car (his car) accident a couple months ago when a oncoming car crossed the centerline, which totaled his honda. Than the tranny went out on his truck, which in fact is at the shop getting fixed now! i know cause i picked him up from the shop. Not to mention he just moved too! have any of you moved a large garden mid grow? not only is it a pain in the a$$ it's a huge setback in anyone's life. Between that and other personal shit he's been through in just the last year. Shit you should give him props for doing what he does. Hell, i've seen people commit suicide with less crap on their plates!

Than you people start commenting on his 4 year old daughter!!! referencing her to eating cannabis!!! what is wrong with you people! not only is that not the case,but to talk about anyone's kid like that.. that's sic....really people? that's offensive.

Boy this is interesting.
scott's been trying to fix this shit as professionally as possible and all you people are here crucifying the man you've never meet or been wronged by. So what a problem happened! No reason to mob-up. You all gonna jump off a cliff if someone else does? damn!
Seems to me from what i've read and know scott's tried everything possible to resolve a situation with someone who seems only to insists on being unreasonable! Boy i cant wait to tell him about all this shit you guys are saying i'm sure he'll love that, seeing as he just fixed the problem from what it looks like. I cant believe this was goin on while he was trying to correct the problem the whole time! man is he goin to be pissed.

so someone throws a fit ,tries to ruin someones hard-earned reputation, and gets their order comp'ed still. And you people still stand here and question a guy in a situation that isn't even your business in the first place.


Where are all the people that scott and TGA have done so much for in michigan to back this guy up? Oh yea, they're probally growing their TGA and minding their own business.

Some of you people and your EGO's. you crack me up. Grow your herb, weather it be TGA or not. mind your business. smoke your herb, and don't loose your cool, life's too short guys.


As a matter of fact, i'm not gonna call him with this bullshit. i'm just gonna pop in and tell him this crap over a big QrazyTrain fattie, i know i'd want it after being unnecessarily ran through the ringer.

lol you guys are a trip...these chat rooms got more drama than a afternoon sitcom. LMFAO.

oh yea, food for thought guys. At no point what-so-ever has scott bashed this guy or said anything bad about or to this upset customer. So why don't you all see and take this for what it is. Someone trippin over small stuff.
Whatever happened about us worrying about bill schutte and all the political shit. we're on the same team at the end of the day. but no, ya'll wanna harass the shit out of some guy who's trying to do his job and deal with a customer. Weather that customer is right,wrong,pissed or happy. None of this involves anyone but those 2 people.

poor scott, must be feeling like Jesus when he got nailed to the cross.
You people are heathens.
And your words have been ignorant and barbaric.
And than to ruthlessly smash talk his (let alone anyone's) kid.

Have a nice day. life's short. get over shit






Yeah o.k. Scott...get your shit together and stop blaming customers for your lack of professionalism and babysitting.
 

infinitalus

Active Member
Michigan says FUCK TGA!!!! FUCK SUBCOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quoted for truth. I was seriously considering some querkle but not any more. Now I hear that he pulled shit to get his genetics. Almost sounds like Bill Gates, but to Gates' defense, Jobs said that Gates' ideas were garbage. Sub knew what he had and ran with it. Thats straight dirty.
 

infinitalus

Active Member
Its cool that Scott reconsidered his views, most likely after the fact that a bad customer review was placed on a widely popular MMJ forum. Thats what it looks like to me. (For the record, Id have done the same. No one deserves to be treated like that, period)

My business outside of the 'gray area of growing MMJ' is customer service. When my customer is really upset, I totally understand it because I would be too. I dont dictate to the customer what I think is fair. That sounds like what would be fair to me. I ask the customer "What would it take to make things right?" I get some incredulous looks like you wouldnt believe. Try saying that to a customer that is upset and you will get the most positive results. (I also network like this. My side business is computers, and have ended up working on computers from these people that have had service complaints.) Often, they are more than fair with their request. They feel like they are the ones are in charge. Without a customer, you have no business. With poor customer service, you will get bad word-of-mouth reviews and zero returning customers. Fact.


There are a lot of genetics and breeders out there. Hell, I can even throw some bagseed in dirt and make it frosty. The difference is I wont get my supplies or material from someone(s) that I know is a douche or has handled issues poorly in the past. It could have been me.

We are businessmen and if we *ALL* cant respect each other as such, you dont deserve my business nor my acknowledgement.

Seems fair to me
 
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