My Current set up: journal?

VictorVIcious

VictorVIcious

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I hadn't either, common in Australia. Al has mentioned it as a problem many times. Don't know the scientific name, I pretty sure he mentions it and then aka powdery mildew. VV
 
VictorVIcious

VictorVIcious

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Isthisyourspecialbush said:
Thanks vv your thread has been very helpfull. I've been doing a lot of research here and it seems like the majority say fluors are junk. I have one 4' t5ho 6 blb and it seems to work well but i was skeptical about using them to flower. from what i see here I'm gonna pick up another 4' 6 blb and a 4' 8 blb. Do you think mixing the bulbs 50/50 is best or using more blue for veg and more red for flower? I was thinking of using 1 or 2 blues w/ the reds and 1or2 reds w/the blues. I hope my grow turns out as good as yours, gonna try hempybuckets for the first time.


happy growing

ps the best price i found on t5's are at htgsupply.com
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The hydro shop I visit did the research. They found 1/2 red 1/2 blue for the entire grow gives the best yield. Jeff has been in the hydro business in that same location since 1983. Thats good enough for me. Many of us have bought from htg, I am not one of them. I have seen reports both ways, just means people are people, be nice you get treated nice, and they do seem to take care of most problems. I believe in doing busines locally when you can, saves shipping charges. If there was a big difference I would be inclined to tell them what I can order if for, and when I would likely get it. They have always ended up with the business.
The Hempy Buckets is an ebb and flow system I think, res and a controller, two pumps, two timers, maybe one is a float not a timer. The fitting I use for my 'Sight Level' is one for a Hempy Bucket' type set up. No problems with it so far.
I like the system, the pots are bigger than I want to use. I am convinced you can produce more bud growing sog and one plant per square foot isn't sog. You will get good results with the system. You will need to check it often. Clay pellets don't hold water for long, a pump failure unnoticed for more than a day could be fatal. I am sure this won't be a problem for you, you will be checking them at 'least' once a day.lol
I haven't seen many say the are junk, I have seen them say only for vegging, clones, etc. Know one has stopped by to correct me for saying I am getting the result that you can get with a 600watt hid using a 440watt t-5 with less heat issues. I am still waiting for someone to notice the lights I have over the tables right now. I only have 25 flowering plants , couldn't see have that few on three tables. The t-5 lights I have are 18" wide, my tables are 32" inside dimensions. I wonder what would happen if you put (2) 4'-8 tube t-5 lights over one table that is 32" x 4'. Could you match a 1000wattHid? Or would you need a 4' x 4' table to do it? VV:blsmoke:
 
Isthisyourspecialbush

Isthisyourspecialbush

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VictorVIcious said:
The hydro shop I visit did the research. They found 1/2 red 1/2 blue for the entire grow gives the best yield. Jeff has been in the hydro business in that same location since 1983. Thats good enough for me. Many of us have bought from htg, I am not one of them. I have seen reports both ways, just means people are people, be nice you get treated nice, and they do seem to take care of most problems. I believe in doing busines locally when you can, saves shipping charges. If there was a big difference I would be inclined to tell them what I can order if for, and when I would likely get it. They have always ended up with the business.
The Hempy Buckets is an ebb and flow system I think, res and a controller, two pumps, two timers, maybe one is a float not a timer. The fitting I use for my 'Sight Level' is one for a Hempy Bucket' type set up. No problems with it so far.
I like the system, the pots are bigger than I want to use. I am convinced you can produce more bud growing sog and one plant per square foot isn't sog. You will get good results with the system. You will need to check it often. Clay pellets don't hold water for long, a pump failure unnoticed for more than a day could be fatal. I am sure this won't be a problem for you, you will be checking them at 'least' once a day.lol
I haven't seen many say the are junk, I have seen them say only for vegging, clones, etc. Know one has stopped by to correct me for saying I am getting the result that you can get with a 600watt hid using a 440watt t-5 with less heat issues. I am still waiting for someone to notice the lights I have over the tables right now. I only have 25 flowering plants , couldn't see have that few on three tables. The t-5 lights I have are 18" wide, my tables are 32" inside dimensions. I wonder what would happen if you put (2) 4'-8 tube t-5 lights over one table that is 32" x 4'. Could you match a 1000wattHid? Or would you need a 4' x 4' table to do it? VV:blsmoke:
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Considering this guy was doing hydro when i was still shitin my pants I'll take the advice, 50/50 it is. I wish I could shop local,the nearest shop is 100+ mi. When I do make the trip It is worth it though, not wso much in prices but the knowledge these people have is insane. I don't know if the two t5's would match the 1000 HID but they would fit w/ some overhang. maybe you could try a small shelf on the edge of your tables to catch that extra light. I forget how your system is set up but it might work. The hempy bucket is simply a bucket W/ a hole 2" up, creating a reervoir. I'm using 4 parts perlit to 1 vermiculite in a 5 gal buk and a drip system for less maintinence. Got my clones rooting so it won't be long, I'm hoping for the success you've had only 1/2 scale.



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wish you many lb's happy growing bush :blsmoke:
 
VictorVIcious

VictorVIcious

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Isthisyourspecialbush said:
Considering this guy was doing hydro when i was still shitin my pants I'll take the advice, 50/50 it is. I wish I could shop local,the nearest shop is 100+ mi. When I do make the trip It is worth it though, not wso much in prices but the knowledge these people have is insane. I don't know if the two t5's would match the 1000 HID but they would fit w/ some overhang. maybe you could try a small shelf on the edge of your tables to catch that extra light. I forget how your system is set up but it might work. The hempy bucket is simply a bucket W/ a hole 2" up, creating a reervoir. I'm using 4 parts perlit to 1 vermiculite in a 5 gal buk and a drip system for less maintinence. Got my clones rooting so it won't be long, I'm hoping for the success you've had only 1/2 scale.



:mrgreen:
wish you many lb's happy growing bush :blsmoke:
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I have been thinking about making some panels with mylar on them to go around the sides of the tables to reflect that spill over light back on the plants.
I am a little confused here, maybe I should look at a Hempy Bucket. Its not part of a recirculating system and you are going to use drip for less maintanance? There are a few drippers that don't require weekly cleaning. Its not real tough. Just remove them and soak them for about 20 minutes in plain white vinegar every week, more often if you have hard water.
If you haven't done so please start a journal and put some pictures in there, send me a link, sounds like an interesting project. VV:blsmoke:
 
HazyEyes

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Hempy Bucket are the shit never tried it but have donw alot of reading up on it i will probaly do this method for my next op.:blsmoke:
 
Isthisyourspecialbush

Isthisyourspecialbush

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VictorVIcious said:
I have been thinking about making some panels with mylar on them to go around the sides of the tables to reflect that spill over light back on the plants.
I am a little confused here, maybe I should look at a Hempy Bucket. Its not part of a recirculating system and you are going to use drip for less maintanance? There are a few drippers that don't require weekly cleaning. Its not real tough. Just remove them and soak them for about 20 minutes in plain white vinegar every week, more often if you have hard water.
If you haven't done so please start a journal and put some pictures in there, send me a link, sounds like an interesting project. VV:blsmoke:
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A shower curtain type deal w panda plastic might work to, might be a heat issue though. If I knew how to put a link to a thread i would but if you type "the hempy collective" under the search it should come up. right now i have a green genie auto waterer. It's battery powerd and says it waters up to ten plants, haven't tryed it out yet. If it works well I'll get another or maybe try a gravity feed drip system. The cool thing about hempy is if you have a malfunc in your drip system it would take a few days to harm the plant(each plant has it's own reservoir to feed from) I guess i should stop hijacking your journal and start my own. Everything is piled in my bedroom right know (Grow room under construction) I'm gonna go out and get a usb cable and get everything situated and start my first journal.


happy growning:mrgreen: Bush
 
VictorVIcious

VictorVIcious

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Isthisyourspecialbush said:
A shower curtain type deal w panda plastic might work to, might be a heat issue though. If I knew how to put a link to a thread i would but if you type "the hempy collective" under the search it should come up. right now i have a green genie auto waterer. It's battery powerd and says it waters up to ten plants, haven't tryed it out yet. If it works well I'll get another or maybe try a gravity feed drip system. The cool thing about hempy is if you have a malfunc in your drip system it would take a few days to harm the plant(each plant has it's own reservoir to feed from) I guess i should stop hijacking your journal and start my own. Everything is piled in my bedroom right know (Grow room under construction) I'm gonna go out and get a usb cable and get everything situated and start my first journal.


happy growning:mrgreen: Bush
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Wish I would have thought of that, a journal of your own, wow, what an idea. I'm just jackin ya man its ok, you are helping me towards a goal I have, so its all good.
I am not a computer guy, I can tell you what I do if I want to link something. Lets say I wanted to link VV to the hempy collective. I would go to one of VV's threads to make some comment about how sweet his room looks or some such slop in the advanced mode. Then I would go to whatever source would put me at the page I want to link. The best source for me is MyRollitup. I can check my Subscribed Threads and more than likely I am Subscribed to my journal, click on that, now you are at your journal. Put your cursor in the address bar and then right click, Copy. Go back to Post Response, left click in the text entry box, right click Copy. Now write your comment and ask me to take a look at the setup you have.
As far as I am concerned there is nothing wrong with making comments about what you have or how your plants are doing, especially if you can do it within the context of the conversation, I have been known to jump a thread or two, not a problem. Just don't jump it to instruct the thread starter or flame them, I'm a happy camper. Again welcome, that name has got to go. lol. VV :blsmoke:
 
HazyEyes

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PlasmaRadio said:
Powdery Mildew? Sounds common, yet I have never heard of it.
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Powdery mildew is one of the most widespread and easily recognized plant diseases. Powdery mildews are most severe when the weather is warm and dry, and they affect virtually all kinds of plants: cereals and grasses, vegetables, flowers, weeds, shrubs, fruit trees, and broad-leaved shade and forest trees. Many plants have been developed to be resistant to or tolerant of powdery mildew. Succulent tissue is the most susceptible to infection

Powdery mildews are host specific -- they cannot survive without the proper host plant. For example, the species Uncinula necator, which causes powdery mildew on grape and linden, does not attack lilac. Similarly, Microsphaea alni affects elm, catalpa, lilac and oak but not turfgrass.
Powdery mildews produce mycelium (fungal threads) that grow only on the surface of the plant. They never invade the tissues themselves. The fungi feed by sending haustoria, or root-like structures, into the epidermal (top) cells of the plant. The fungi overwinter on plant debris as cleistothecia or mycelium. In the spring, the cleistothecia produce spores that are moved to susceptible host tissue by splashing raindrops, wind or Insects.



sorry for jumping in VV
 
Isthisyourspecialbush

Isthisyourspecialbush

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VictorVIcious said:
Wish I would have thought of that, a journal of your own, wow, what an idea. I'm just jackin ya man its ok, you are helping me towards a goal I have, so its all good.
I am not a computer guy, I can tell you what I do if I want to link something. Lets say I wanted to link VV to the hempy collective. I would go to one of VV's threads to make some comment about how sweet his room looks or some such slop in the advanced mode. Then I would go to whatever source would put me at the page I want to link. The best source for me is MyRollitup. I can check my Subscribed Threads and more than likely I am Subscribed to my journal, click on that, now you are at your journal. Put your cursor in the address bar and then right click, Copy. Go back to Post Response, left click in the text entry box, right click Copy. Now write your comment and ask me to take a look at the setup you have.
As far as I am concerned there is nothing wrong with making comments about what you have or how your plants are doing, especially if you can do it within the context of the conversation, I have been known to jump a thread or two, not a problem. Just don't jump it to instruct the thread starter or flame them, I'm a happy camper. Again welcome, that name has got to go. lol. VV :blsmoke:
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Don't be hatin on the name I love Bush:mrgreen: If all goes well I'll be gettin some tonight.

I may have smoked myself retarded. when I read your instructions on posting a link it made my head hurt. I might have to call NASA for further instructions lol. I'll try again later when i'm sober.


Happy growing:mrgreen: Bush
 
HazyEyes

HazyEyes

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A VV i have a question for you wise one, am about to buy a 8 bulber but my hydro shop has 2 8bulb t5s. they have the sunblaze which is around 400 and the New wave one that is 500, they both put out the same lumens but i quess the new wave is a little more spaced out then the other, BUT the other sunblaze has more of a intense beam of light is what he said. now do you have any suggetions on which i should get?? i am leaning toward the 400 one because its cheaper but wanted to hear what u would say. which do you us??
 
blinkykush

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Hey VV, I wanted to comment on your amazing setup. Also I went ahead and picked up a 4' 8 bulb t5 and love it, dont know if you remember me asking you about sprouting but since i purchased this light I havnt had a single problem. Since reading this thread and seeing your awesome results with the t5's i have decided to keep my 400 hps in storage and just do half white half red bulbs. Question is would you recomend i put 1 blue 1 red etc.... or 4 (red) then 4(blue)? I guess ho do you have it,lol? thanks man:-) great grow WOW! inspiration, I have my temps in that closet perfect and just know it will be tougher to manage with an hps.
 
HazyEyes

HazyEyes

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you want 4 red 4 blue man me and vv and this talk along time along haha he said you get best results with that mix, i love to see more and ,more ppl using the T5........

THE REVOLUTION IS HERE!!:blsmoke: now lets smoke some weed.:joint:
 
blinkykush

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yeah I posted a bit too prematurly lol, I just got to the part of the thread where he said that...thanks though. I am hoping I get the bud density that is rumured you dont really achieve with t5's compared to hps's. well see:-)
 
blinkykush

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hey Hazyeyes:-) quick question on putting 4 blue and 4 red do I rotate them around during the grow? B/c if their is a blue bulb on the end and red on the other then the plaints on each wont be getting one of the other spectrums right. I'm guesing VV must move the plants around or switch the bulbs.
 
HazyEyes

HazyEyes

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Am sure he does rotate his plants but really man you dont have to, and about the bud density , if you want more thicker buds later on in ur grow you should start trimming off the bottom part of you plant this allows our plant to put all his juices into the top of the plant , making more juicy thick buds.:mrgreen:

i feel like i steal VV thread sometimes:-?
 
blinkykush

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yeah and i heard bud XL helps with getting all the nutrients from leaves to buds:-)

I really like the point VV made in this thread when he mentioned the difference in Lumen output with hps's being a bit higher but if you have more output and have to keep the light 2 ft away compared to 2 inches with the T5 then it trully becomes a matter of preference than performance. and i have tried venting HPS's wall to wall and all that still couldnt get temps perfect, with my T5 i have it 78 sometimes spikes to 79 all the time;-)
 
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