my first 400 watt grow

Dropastone · May 1, 2011

redrum83420 said:
i calibrated it with drops last time i used it, so it matched what the color was from the drops. and now its reading at least 2 whole points off. from what ive read the drops dont go bad, and they seemed to work good when i wasn't using a dig meter for my water farm. im going to wait till i can afford calibration and storage fluids for it. it's a $25 milwalkie ph 600 off amazon or ebay.

Hmm, I got the same model as you and I calibrate mine once a month and it's never off by more than a tenth of a point. I'm not trying to knock your drops and I'm sure they are very accurate but it seems to me that it would pretty hard to match the same color every time. For example do you know how many different shades of orange there is? Trying to match that shade every time would be almost impossible and I'm sure your results will vary from test to test. IMO the drops are more like a ball park figure.

I'm only trying to help my friend.

Peace.

Dropastone · May 1, 2011

dajosh42069 said:
The drops are VERY accurate. The meter is dependent upon certain type of metal on the ends having continued conductivity. Unless you clean them after EVERYTIME you stick them in the soil, they rust and don't really work anymore.

Now I use both myself. But the guy i purchased my clones from originally, SWEARS that the soil probe pH meters are garbage. I guess the way he sees it, if you properly pH your water EACH time, you shouldn't have soil pH issues. But if you DO, that you'd know by pHing your runoff.

I'd suggest you just filter the soil out of the runoff water (coffee filter or something) and test it with the drops.

::shrugs:: But I honestly know very little on the topic, i'm simply passing on an opinion that may or may not be shared by me.

btw, wat do u think of some Lsting 1 week into flower?

I've heard the exact same thing when it comes to soil testers and that's why I've never bought one. After reading your first paragraph, I think you got your wires crossed though. We're talking about pH testers for water, not pH testers for soil.

Peace and happy growing.

redrum83420 · May 1, 2011

dajosh42069 said:
The drops are VERY accurate. The meter is dependent upon certain type of metal on the ends having continued conductivity. Unless you clean them after EVERYTIME you stick them in the soil, they rust and don't really work anymore.

Now I use both myself. But the guy i purchased my clones from originally, SWEARS that the soil probe pH meters are garbage. I guess the way he sees it, if you properly pH your water EACH time, you shouldn't have soil pH issues. But if you DO, that you'd know by pHing your runoff.

I'd suggest you just filter the soil out of the runoff water (coffee filter or something) and test it with the drops.

::shrugs:: But I honestly know very little on the topic, i'm simply passing on an opinion that may or may not be shared by me.

btw, wat do u think of some Lsting 1 week into flower?

water/nute ph meter not soil ph meter

shrigpiece said:
Lookin nice mate, iv still gotta sort a cam out so no plant or pup pics as of yet.
Peace

thanks man. i'll be waiting for those pix of the new pup and your girls

Dropastone said:
Hmm, I got the same model as you and I calibrate mine once a month and it's never off by more than a tenth of a point. I'm not trying to knock your drops and I'm sure they are very accurate but it seems to me that it would pretty hard to match the same color every time. For example do you know how many different shades of orange there is? Trying to match that shade every time would be almost impossible and I'm sure your results will vary from test to test. IMO the drops are more like a ball park figure.

I'm only trying to help my friend.

Peace.

i keep the ph meter in 1 of the top drawers of my desk. i dry it off after each use, so it's not covered in nute/water. well the outside where it easy to dry off. i think it's going off so fast because of not being stored correctly, but idk this is my second ph meter. the first 1 i droped into a bucket of water a week after i bought it lol, that sucked. the 6.0 is very easy to read. i use a white piece of paper behind the vile to see the color better and ph up or down a couple ml at a time.

dajosh42069 · May 1, 2011

My mistake. :-P

But any soil probe has the same basic layout. The metal inside will corrode almost regardless of how well you care for it. But the plants look good none-the-less!

RLH · May 1, 2011

Red, girls look great. It's been a min since I was last here. Btw just a side note on ANY liquid test kit that involves testing water, they do go bad. I would assume it to be the same in the hydro industry as it is in the fish industry and that they all have lot #'s and expiration dates printed either on the label or directly on the bottle. I would also wager that you can get ph test kits a lil cheaper from a local fish store, just be sure its for fresh water. I didn't want to address any other issues as I think you have a lot of input regarding the ph issue itself.

redrum83420 · May 1, 2011

thanks man. the drops probaly do go bad, but i should end up using it all before it goes bad. i dont see a exp. date or lot number on the bottle anywhere.

dajosh42069 · May 1, 2011

If your pHing your water, and your an avid grower (like you are) then I wouldn't anticipate the drops expiring before they simply run out.

redrum83420 · May 2, 2011

i transplanted into 2 gallon pots and took 2 clones from my ice kush, mater kush, and hypnotic. plus gave them their first weeks nutes for flower. i took the clones from the outdoor plants out of the closet so the 3 had room to fit.

Master Kush #1

Ice Kush

Hypnotic

the very packed closet lol

so as normal they go in the closet tonight to start 12/12 tomorrow. well today seeings how its after 5am and im still up. well im off to bed now :sleep:

Dropastone · May 2, 2011

Hey bro. With all these pics you keep posting I feel that I'm running out of ways to tell you how great they look. Keep up the great work my friend. :clap:

redrum83420 · May 2, 2011

Dropastone said:
Hey bro. With all these pics you keep posting I feel that I'm running out of ways to tell you how great they look. Keep up the great work my friend.

lol right, i hear ya on it gets hard to find new ways of saying i like someones plants, after we've been watching each others grow for a while. i'll try an slow down on the pix upload lol :bigjoint:

from now on just pix of when they go into flower and finished ready to chop plants :weed:

unless you still want the others then i will ;-)

all i know is my memory card is almost full, and i now have to resize my pix for certain uploads

Dropastone · May 2, 2011

Haha I didn't mean it like that bro. You just keep doing what your doing and please post all the pics you like my friend. If comes to the point where I run out of ways to tell you how good your plants look I'll just hit the like button. ;-)

redrum83420 · May 2, 2011

lol i was just messing with yea. i dont mind the comments at all. the hard part lately has been remembering what is at what point of veg and flower. if i didnt start writing it all down id be screwed lol. well im off to collect some pollen, peace.

dajosh42069 · May 2, 2011

Dude, I KNOW exactly what you mean!!

I'm following about 20 threads, and i'm online about 20+ times a day, so I respond pretty quickly to peoples threads...it's gonna hard to tell people how nice their plants look! Short of having questions, there's not a WHOLE LOT MORE TO BE SAID, other then "Good shit, keep it up!"

dajosh42069 · May 2, 2011

redrum83420 said:
lol i was just messing with yea. i dont mind the comments at all. the hard part lately has been remembering what is at what point of veg and flower. if i didnt start writing it all down id be screwed lol. well im off to collect some pollen, peace.

Hooray for pollen!!
And agreed on the writing it down. I'd NEVER remember if I didn't constantly refer to my writings.

redrum83420 · May 2, 2011

well when i took my male plant into the other room to collect pollen. i layed a large cardboard box down, and shook the plant over the box a couple inches from it. scraped up what came off the plant, which looked like just sacks from the plant. i scraped it up and put it in a 1/2 pint mason jar with a lid that has 4 nail holes in it. then went and took a shower and turned closes inside out just to be safe.

shrigpiece · May 3, 2011

Dropastone said:
Haha I didn't mean it like that bro. You just keep doing what your doing and please post all the pics you like my friend. If comes to the point where I run out of ways to tell you how good your plants look I'll just hit the like button.

Thats pretty much what i do.

redrum83420 · May 3, 2011

i took all the ladies out of the closet last night and rearranged them. i didnt like how they were in there. the sk#3 takes up allot of room, more then planed per plant. mite go to friends house if they have room.

all plants that are in the closet

plants back in the closet

dajosh42069 · May 3, 2011

No elbow room huh?

redrum83420 · May 3, 2011

dajosh42069 said:
No elbow room huh?

not even a little bit lol. i'll be going to my friends house tonight to talk to them to see if they got room for a plant. hopefully they do, then i'll have a little bit of room, but not much. and as soon as the ks#1 finishes i'll be putting another 1 right in it's place. dialing in my closet to my boxes with this many strain is getting harder then i thought it was going to be. of course i am flowering 3 plants that were started for outdoor not my closet.

dajosh42069 · May 3, 2011

That the big ones i'm seeing back there? It looks like it!
That's half your problem right there. I'm guessing the genetics on them are worthwhile enough that you decided to do them inside instead anyway?

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