My first class with the golden teacher

aCiDjEsUs

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bringing your kid to the ER for 2nd degree burns......"so what happened"

"well i was cooking my substrate for my mushroom project" LOL


Man that wouldn't be funny at all LoL but it sounds funny hahahah
I would have DCFS on my ass faster then cheetah lol..
 

aCiDjEsUs

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I like the link for the bags, I see they are local and I got contact them and see if I can do some business with them in person instead of ordering from their page.
 

RetiredMatthebrute

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yeah i know it wouldnt be funny....i was just joking man jeesh take it easy on me......:) (a bit of sarcasm there :) )

anyways keep me posted on how you make out. you gonna make a glove box?

the one i made cost about 20 bucks total, will have some pics of the completed box later tonight, i wanted to give the silicone a good day to dry up nice
 

RetiredMatthebrute

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yeah if your juts going to do a single run then the pre sterilized bags may be a better option for you. im setting up so i can pick it up whenever i need more. i believe the spore syrynges stay viable for a long time in the refridgerator,
 

aCiDjEsUs

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yeah i know it wouldnt be funny....i was just joking man jeesh take it easy on me......:) (a bit of sarcasm there :) )

anyways keep me posted on how you make out. you gonna make a glove box?

the one i made cost about 20 bucks total, will have some pics of the completed box later tonight, i wanted to give the silicone a good day to dry up nice
Hahahaha Matt I was just joking! you know me better than that :)

From looking at their page, they're selling jars already sterilized and ready for inoculation so I might just try that first, and just go from there.
 

polyarcturus

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pretty long time in the fridge ill be testing that factor soon, with some really old ones i think instead of ordering. the real fun part is isolation in agar, so far ive done 2 isolation's and one clone from a good mushroom, all the resulting flushes from those mycelium where the best out of any of my grows.
 

RetiredMatthebrute

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i wont be doing anything that advanced yet. need to get one grow under my belt first.

I have never really ate mushrooms before so im kinda excited to try em out. will prob start off with maybe 1-2g my first time. i dont want a full blown trip just a taste to see what its like. what do you guys think?
 

aCiDjEsUs

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i wont be doing anything that advanced yet. need to get one grow under my belt first.

I have never really ate mushrooms before so im kinda excited to try em out. will prob start off with maybe 1-2g my first time. i dont want a full blown trip just a taste to see what its like. what do you guys think?
You going to love the way world looks through shroomy eyes ;) Matt to be honest I personally eat only around 3 to 6 grams on each trip, but I'm a skinny guy t only 155lbs so that's enough for me.

Do maybe couple of caps at first and see how you like it and see if the intensity of the trip suites you :)
 

RetiredMatthebrute

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Hey guys what's the difference between spawn bags and jars? or there's non just the bags are bigger?
so far from what i understand the jars need to be dumped into a fruiting chamber and then cased. the bags come already cased and once full inoculated you just open the bag and fruit right in the bag.

i personally like the way the bags look, they have a neophrene injection site which looks pretty sweet.

[video=youtube;kcim7YBITn0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcim7YBITn0[/video]
 

polyarcturus

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Hey guys what's the difference between spawn bags and jars? or there's non just the bags are bigger?
different substrates. but no difference really you could make a bag of anything or a jar of anything the size is the main difference, but really when it comes to bags you want something that is gonna form like a cake, jars are better for grain cause it supports the grain and keeps it stable while the mycelium grows around it.
 

polyarcturus

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so far from what i understand the jars need to be dumped into a fruiting chamber and then cased. the bags come already cased and once full inoculated you just open the bag and fruit right in the bag.

i personally like the way the bags look, they have a neophrene injection site which looks pretty sweet.

[video=youtube;kcim7YBITn0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcim7YBITn0[/video]
well not exactly but yeah pretty much. popcorn will be bigger flushes, and more options, less spore solution needed and faster growth. bags are good. but limited at the same time. slower growth, no option to transfer, good flushes, but its a sterile substrate so limited survival time before contamination.

spawning into a pasteurized substrate to be colonized for 2 weeks before fruiting is the best way to grow, this will give you the most amount of contaminant resistant time to harvest and grow mushrooms, really a casing can even further this time.
 

aCiDjEsUs

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You guys think I can start with this stuff? I'm not planning on doing anything crazy so keep in that mind.

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Simple Mushroom Grow kit
  • 6 Ultimate ½ pint substrate Jars- Pressure sterilized and ready to grow!
  • Growing and incubating chamber
  • Thermometer with Hygrometer/humidity gauge
  • 2 Grow lights, one incandescent and one LED
  • 1 Gallon of Perlite- Fine, imported, specially formulated horticulture grade
  • Hospital grade Latex Gloves
  • Alcohol swabs
  • Easy to follow growing guide with step by step instructions. Includes our secret tips, tricks and hints that other grow guides leave out. Includes how to incubate, how to fruit, casing methods, and quick way to dry your harvest in 24 hours
Midwest Grow Kit's Simple Mushroom kit is a great place to start for the budget conscious grower. Our Simple kit is perfect for growing edible and exotic species of mushrooms.. We take you through the entire process from start to finish. The PF style substrate jars are specially formulated to grow faster, larger and quicker than any other kit out there! Growing has never been easier!
 

RetiredMatthebrute

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you can buy all that and a pressure cooker for less than what they are asking right at wal mart.

perilite 5 bucks
tote 5 bucks
gloves are cheap for a whole box its like 5 bucks.
you can buy a digital thermomoter and hydrometer for 10 bucks
you can pick up a cheap LED light for 5 bucks thats 3x bigger than that dinky thing.
alcohol prep pads are a dime a dozen
mason jars are 8 bucks for 12 1/2 pint jars
a bag of vermiculite is cheap but if you plan on using popcorn thats like 2 bucks a bag, i bought 4 bags and plan on having planty left over.

so for under 50 bucks you can pick up everything in that kit at wal mart.
 

polyarcturus

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yeah its a decent kit, but you can throw it all together for less locally.

perlite at lowes, 4$
x2 tote at lowes 12$(one incubation one for fruiting
yellow glove 1$
91% iso 1.50$
air pump and stone 15$
wide mouth mason jars 8$
popcorn 6$
pressure cooker 50-100$
tyvec 0-10$
RTV 5$
drill and drill bit(a big nail could work i suppose) 20$
bale of straw 5$
spores 20$
neutra air air disinfectant 5$
paper towels 3$

so for about 150$ i could grow enough mushrooms to supply a city.:D
 

RetiredMatthebrute

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use that kit to build a wal mart list. you realy dont need the lights unless you dont have a place with indirect lighting. but you said there was a window in your closet you grow in that should be fine.

i dunno im no pro but i think a few things in that kit arent even needed. so for the price you pay for that you could just get a pressure cooker and have it for later projects.
 

aCiDjEsUs

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I got most of that stuff at home I even got TYVEC (tape and the paper) the only things I don't have is some verm. pc. spores.
 

RetiredMatthebrute

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then why buy a expensive kit!! :)

lots of good recipes for PC's too it dosent have to be just for sterilizing. can also get into canning if you ever grow out some veggies and want to save them for winter.

up to you but everything i have read a PC is the first thing people wish they had got.
 

aCiDjEsUs

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I think my mother in-law have a PC she's does a lot of canning, I'm going there this afternoon so I'll check.
 
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