Yeah they have been growing along pretty good since I've bumped the nutes up to aggressive veg, I've got a ways to go before i will be ready to flower though so i don't mind the week or so recovery time of the topping so I'm probably going to do it, these are not my preferred stock of strains so i don't have a set ready to replace them, I'm working on getting things perpetual but i still don't have my preferred seed stock so its kinda hard to get things going with out those lol, as far as flowering goes I'm going to let the girls really fill out the screen and I'm also waiting on the cal mag. I went back and reviewed all of my pics from my first grow and judging by a lot of the photos it looks like i have nearly the same symptoms, i thought it was mag def back then but I'm thinking it was cal mag because i was using R/O, this time I'm thinking its cal mag because I'm using tap water and GH hard water micro which is lite on calcium because its supposed to be in the tap water, I'm going to wait till i get it to hopefully avoid what ever happened to the Critical + when it started flowering. I am also going to clone these before i go into flowering provided this booster fan helps out enough with my veg cab temps.