Mycorrhiza Fungi...why you should get to know them...

Naah, everything is sterile - those pipes were a few minutes into boiling water. I'm sterilizing them every time I finish my tea

My air pump filter hmmm will spray him with 99% isopropyl alcohol ;)

Thanks for the advice ;) good point
 

radicaldank42

Well-Known Member
Naah, everything is sterile - those pipes were a few minutes into boiling water. I'm sterilizing them every time I finish my tea

My air pump filter hmmm will spray him with 99% isopropyl alcohol ;)

Thanks for the advice ;) good point
it should be able to come off like a screw. or something like that cant remeber. at least the air pump i have it did.
 

Rubisco456

Member
Good point.

But what if the algae show again after I brew new tea, I don't know where from that alga is.
Everything is clean, the only thing that's coming to my head is worm casting...

I brew my teas sometimes 2-4 days, sometimes about a week.
Feeding microbes every 48h with molasses and sometimes fish hydrolysate
I'm ordering a microscope next week, so will watch them out

Ahh NO of course the foam are good ;) not necessary shown in every tea.

We talking about green algae on top of.my pots
I'm just going to give you a heads up, unless you have some gram stains looking at microbes under the microscope is super underwhelming. With out diagnostic medias you will not be able to ID who is living in your soil. Under a 40X objective they'll look just like little squiggles.
 

Rubisco456

Member
fromm what i have read it could be wrong now but the bubbles are bad caseu it doesnt allow the water to fully oxydize case the air stones isnt what puts the air intho the water its the rippling of the surface of the water that does that. and if the surface is blocked by bubbles and isnt getting enough oxygen could mean that only bad stuff will brew. and if its reoccuring something isnt cleaned. and is somehow gettig contaminated by algae.
IDK where you got that from but air stones are a fantastic way of getting air into water.

Back in the day when I was doing mass algae production and microbial fermentation my team found that metal air stones (or diffusers) works superbly well, we were getting 120% more bio mass in our cultures with air stones alone. The really fine bubble dissolve into water rapidly and the aeration action also does double duty mixing the water.

You are 100% correct about the surface water mixing and foam. I've run into that recently with my own microbial fermenters, a lot of foam at the liquid air interface blocked air from entering my cultures and caused it to respire anaerobically.
 

radicaldank42

Well-Known Member
IDK where you got that from but air stones are a fantastic way of getting air into water.

Back in the day when I was doing mass algae production and microbial fermentation my team found that metal air stones (or diffusers) works superbly well, we were getting 120% more bio mass in our cultures with air stones alone. The really fine bubble dissolve into water rapidly and the aeration action also does double duty mixing the water.

You are 100% correct about the surface water mixing and foam. I've run into that recently with my own microbial fermenters, a lot of foam at the liquid air interface blocked air from entering my cultures and caused it to respire anaerobically.
im talking about the bubbles that form on top of the water, and if you actually look it up air stones dont actually add oxygen to the water like how you think its the disturbance of the bubbles on the surface that oxidizes the water. and if you look up air stones do help but not as much as the agitation they get from it does.
which is why the vortex brewer does a really good job. and making one from a 5 gal bucket aint hard at allll. few sub pumps connected to the bottom of the bucket and tubes put back in at an angel.
 
I haven't seen anyone mention Common Mychorizal Networks yet. Its where mychorizae of the same species link together. Its one of the reasons ill only inoculate with a single species of mychorizae in my outdoor plants so that, come flowering time, they're all communicating with eachother.


"Mycorrhizal fungi can interconnect individual plants to form common mycorrhizal networks (CMNs). Recent work has shown that these networks can transport signals produced by plants in response to herbivore and pathogen infestation to neighbouring plants before they are themselves attacked. The speed of transfer to uninfested plants is such that the mechanism is likely to have measurable benefits for plant protection. At present, the nature of the signals and the degree of plant and fungal control of their delivery are unknown. Interplant …"
 

sh0wtime

Well-Known Member
I have a bag of mycorrhiza here, I was always scared to use it tho.
Not sure if you can use it together with mineral fertilizers.

After I saw the Fantastic Funghi documentary on netflix I thought I'd get some input.
Now that I've registered here maybe someone can gimme tips.
Much appreciated.
 

Rico2016

Active Member
I have a bag of mycorrhiza here, I was always scared to use it tho.
Not sure if you can use it together with mineral fertilizers.

After I saw the Fantastic Funghi documentary on netflix I thought I'd get some input.
Now that I've registered here maybe someone can gimme tips.
Much appreciated.
why were you scared of a lil benny fungy?
 

John Rollwan

Well-Known Member
Sometimes, things are so well written, it would be a dis-service to paraphrase them. I ran across this page on Mycorrhizal Fungi and thought it was great info. So, here is a link to it:
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Mycorrhiza - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Give it a read. Afterwards, you will have a better understanding of why these myco fungi - sold in products like Plant Sucess, Myco Magic, Sub-Culture and Super Plant Tonic - kick such serious a*s.
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Add them in your grow and reap the benefits. These little fungi, mine out every last bit of P for Mary - so her buddage reaches maximum potential.
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They also pump up the plants immune system by making all the necessary trace minerals soluble and kill off bad bacteria as a bonus. It's a win / win formula. So, next time someone says " There's a fungus among us - Say Cool, I was hopeing for some. "
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Keep it Real...Organic.....
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huge fan of mycorrhizae, has mine loving life and keeps that P uptake right in flowering. Would never run without.
 

GreenRat

Active Member
Hi

I'm getting ready to buy a larger package of Mycorrhiza and Trichoderma and I'm wondering what brand of product to choose.
So far I have used Mycotrex and Bactrex from BioTabs, but it is difficult for me to say anything about the quality and effectiveness of these products.

I'm going to buy Mycorrhiza Grate White Plant Success because it has great reviews and is much cheaper than BioTabs.
In addition, you can buy Myco Hum for this, but I do not know if this preparation will not burn my AF plants.
Has anyone used Myco Hum and can say something about it?
Some say it's a strong potion and you have to be careful with that.
Another product I don't know is King Krab Plant Success.

King Krab:

CONTAINS NON PLANT FOOD INGREDIENTS:
Soil Amending Guaranteed Analysis


Bacillus subtilis – 25,000,000 CFU’s per mL
Bacillus licheniformis – 25,000,000 CFU’s per mL
Bacillus amyloliquefaciens – 25,000,000 CFU’s per mL
Bacillus megaterium – 25,000,000 CFU’s per mL
Bacillus pumilus – 25,000,000 CFU’s per mL
Bacillus coagulans – 25,000,000 CFU’s per mL
Bacillus azotoformans – 25,000,000 CFU’s per mL
Paenibacillus polymyxa – 25,000,000 CFUs per mL
Paenibacillus durum – 25,000,000 CFU’s per mL
Pseudomonas fluorescens – 25,000,000 CFU’s per mL
Pseudomonas aureofaciens – 25,000,000 CFU’s per mL
99% total other ingredients (inert as a non-plant food ingredient)

Myco Chum:

"Myco Chum 1-0-3 is a premium, organic microbial food containing a proprietary blend of molasses, fish hydrolysate, liquid kelp, humic acids, and nutrients. Use Myco Chum throughout your plant's entire lifecycle to optimize results."

Each package of Myco Chum contains the following ingredients to maximize the health of your plants:

Molasses: Rich in calcium, magnesium, iron, and potassium as well as sulfur and other micronutrients. It provides a healthy dose of nutrients and supports the healthy microorganisms in your soil.

Fish hydrolysate: A powerhouse for healthy plant growth! It offers your plants a healthy dose of nitrogen and beneficial fungi in your soil absolutely love it.

Kelp: Provides your plants with a large number of beneficial micronutrients. It encourages better nutrient absorption, root expansion, photosynthesis, and many more essential components to optimal plant health!

Humic acids: Use to buffer the pH of your soil to optimal levels to support healthy plant growth and increased nutrient intake. This can also help improve the quality of your soil.



I am also considering Advanced Nutrition products:
- Piranha
- Tarantula
- Voo Doo Juice

There is also something like Microbes from BioBizz.

What do you think, what would be best - Plant Success, Advanced Nutrition, BioBizz, BioTabs?
I am currently using Hesi minerals after a few years with BioBizz, I would like to add some bacteria and fungus even though it is not an organic crop.
I use Gold Label Special Mix soil with the addition of Light Mix BioBizz.
I grow AF and photoperiod plants.
 
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Rico2016

Active Member
Hi

I'm getting ready to buy a larger package of Mycorrhiza and Trichoderma and I'm wondering what brand of product to choose.
So far I have used Mycotrex and Bactrex from BioTabs, but it is difficult for me to say anything about the quality and effectiveness of these products.

I'm going to buy Mycorrhiza Grate White Plant Success because it has great reviews and is much cheaper than BioTabs.
In addition, you can buy Myco Hum for this, but I do not know if this preparation will not burn my AF plants.
Has anyone used Myco Hum and can say something about it?
Some say it's a strong potion and you have to be careful with that.
Another product I don't know is King Krab Plant Success.

King Krab:

CONTAINS NON PLANT FOOD INGREDIENTS:
Soil Amending Guaranteed Analysis


Bacillus subtilis – 25,000,000 CFU’s per mL
Bacillus licheniformis – 25,000,000 CFU’s per mL
Bacillus amyloliquefaciens – 25,000,000 CFU’s per mL
Bacillus megaterium – 25,000,000 CFU’s per mL
Bacillus pumilus – 25,000,000 CFU’s per mL
Bacillus coagulans – 25,000,000 CFU’s per mL
Bacillus azotoformans – 25,000,000 CFU’s per mL
Paenibacillus polymyxa – 25,000,000 CFUs per mL
Paenibacillus durum – 25,000,000 CFU’s per mL
Pseudomonas fluorescens – 25,000,000 CFU’s per mL
Pseudomonas aureofaciens – 25,000,000 CFU’s per mL
99% total other ingredients (inert as a non-plant food ingredient)

Myco Chum:

"Myco Chum 1-0-3 is a premium, organic microbial food containing a proprietary blend of molasses, fish hydrolysate, liquid kelp, humic acids, and nutrients. Use Myco Chum throughout your plant's entire lifecycle to optimize results."

Each package of Myco Chum contains the following ingredients to maximize the health of your plants:

Molasses: Rich in calcium, magnesium, iron, and potassium as well as sulfur and other micronutrients. It provides a healthy dose of nutrients and supports the healthy microorganisms in your soil.

Fish hydrolysate: A powerhouse for healthy plant growth! It offers your plants a healthy dose of nitrogen and beneficial fungi in your soil absolutely love it.

Kelp: Provides your plants with a large number of beneficial micronutrients. It encourages better nutrient absorption, root expansion, photosynthesis, and many more essential components to optimal plant health!

Humic acids: Use to buffer the pH of your soil to optimal levels to support healthy plant growth and increased nutrient intake. This can also help improve the quality of your soil.



I am also considering Advanced Nutrition products:
- Piranha
- Tarantula
- Voo Doo Juice

There is also something like Microbes from BioBizz.

What do you think, what would be best - Plant Success, Advanced Nutrition, BioBizz, BioTabs?
I am currently using Hesi minerals after a few years with BioBizz, I would like to add some bacteria and fungus even though it is not an organic crop.
I use Gold Label Special Mix soil with the addition of Light Mix BioBizz.
I grow AF and photoperiod plants.
Planters success great whites has always bene good to me and my grows i cant complain as long as my pockets are flush on cash. when im lower on funds and basically want the same results i can look to xtreme gard for mykos and azos. also heard xtrem gard is coming out with bacillus products with big concentrations but i ahvent tried it out yet i need a sample
 
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