Mycorrhiza Fungi...why you should get to know them...

Dank Raptor

Dank Raptor

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mycogrow is top of the line. used that stuff a few years back. Just thought I would share with everyone what I have found because it is the best I have found and the best price. Earthjuice rooters mycorrhizae. for bacteria use biozeus. I have compared them all. Let me know if you find better.
 
Sparty82

Sparty82

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Dank Raptor said:
I have compared them all. Let me know if you find better.
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I've had great luck with the kelp4less mycorrhiza products. Works great and is fairly priced.

Kelp4less just released feed charts for hydroponic growers. Everything is calculated for a 50 gallon reservoir.

No more buying water with mystery nutrients in it!!
 
mushead

mushead

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is there a specific reason why chemical(Mineral/salt w.e) based nutes kill the myco off? i grow organically but i thought that was interesting anyway.
 
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Lucius Vorenus

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mushead said:
is there a specific reason why chemical(Mineral/salt w.e) based nutes kill the myco off? i grow organically but i thought that was interesting anyway.
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High amounts of Phosphorous is all you really need to worry about IMO. I run chem ferts and tons of Mykos. No problems.
 
Rrog

Rrog

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I'm not knocking chem ferts or hydro. To each his own. I just see a lot of growers that supply chem ferts in whatever medium, then want to feel organic by dumping microbes. Maybe like adding goldfish to a punch bowl. The fish survives for a little while, but punch isn't the natural environment, and so they die.

If the microbes don't have the close reciprocal relationship with the plant, the microbes largely go away, or at best, just float around. By adding high concentrations of liquid nutes, you have broken this relationship, and while the plant survives, it gets no protection from predation and disease that the microbes offer.
 
TrynaGroSumShyt

TrynaGroSumShyt

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Chemical ferts contain salts that dry out Myco's and Beneficial Organisms. Mixing the two is pointless. The salt buildup in the soil will kill them off as well as the initial feeding. Don't add myco to your organic tea's either or atleast during brewing.
 
Rrog

Rrog

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Again, if a guy wants to grow in hydro- groovy! Enjoy it! Save some time and effort and forget the microbes, though.
 
Cann

Cann

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not mycelium, those are baby fungal fruits (sporocarps), aka mushrooms. Mycelium is the vegetative stage of fungal growth, what you are seeing in that picture is many sporocarps being produced
 
esof

esof

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"Rootgrow contains a blend of both arbuscular mycorrhizal fungi and ectomycorrhizal fungi. Arbuscular mycorrhizal fungi are the oldest and colonise plant roots by penetrating the cells. Ectomycorrhizal fungi form a sheath or mantle over the plant root, these fungi colonise approximately 10% of plant families and are most associated with long lived trees such as Oak and Pine." - FAQ

If you're growing annuals you'll definitely want to stick with the arbuscular mycorrhiza or 'endomycorrhiza' such as glomus intraradices or really, any from the genus 'glomus'. This particular product also contains ectomycorrhizals which are used primarily for shrubs and trees and various perennials. This product is a balanced fungal inoculate. Unfortunately, I'm not able to find information pertaining to the ratio of endo- to ecto- in this product nor the ratio of fungal spores to the clay packing/delivery method this company employs. Generally, you'll want as many fungal spores by weight as you can achieve as the delivery agents these companies employ may interfere with the soil balance you've been so carefully maintaining. I'm sure you could call the company or zip them an e:mail for these ratios. Take care.
 
AliCakes

AliCakes

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Micro fungi are wonderful. In fact my favorite new bug killer is a fungal product - Botanigard (as long as it stays away from my worm bin). But remember that we want to keep the micro fungal and bacterial colonies in equilibrium. Fungi generally bring the soil pH up and bacteria generally fix nitrogen into nitrates, bringing it down. Both are wonderful, but they need to be kept in check by one another.
 
Rrog

Rrog

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The plant generally dictates the bacterial / fungal types and relative ratios. We don't determine this. If you dumped a great deal of fungus in a soil with MJ, in a week or two, the soil will become bacterially dominant, which is what MJ and other grasses prefer.
 
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