Mycorrhizal fungi applications for cannabis - the caveats

cannawizard

cannawizard

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wyteboi said:
That's a very amazing subject. I have a anaerobic brew of compost and i have aerobic compost an worm bins.
It's dr. Higa's research that i have been reading i think ? is that the japaneese fermentation your referring to ?

soil
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*yes it is.. ive found 1 more i think, she's a colleague of his.. not sure..

--just got started making my own anaerobic teas :) .. cant believe i wasted so much time on synthetics... sigh
 
Wolverine97

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Uncle Ben said:
If it aint got chemicals, it aint gonna work. ;)
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Eh, I respectfully disagree with that. There is a small nutrient value to most teas, but when the microbes poop, and the nematodes eat the microbes and then poop, that poop (which contains organic chemicals) feeds the plant. But maybe I misunderstood what you're saying...
 
Uncle Ben

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Wolverine97 said:
Eh, I respectfully disagree with that. There is a small nutrient value to most teas, but when the microbes poop, and the nematodes eat the microbes and then poop, that poop (which contains organic chemicals) feeds the plant. But maybe I misunderstood what you're saying...
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Plants don't take in 'poop', they take in chemicals aka salts. There's no such thing as "organic chemicals". It's either potassium sulfate, ammonium sulfate, ammonium phosphate, potassium chloride, potassium nitrate, iron sulfate, etc. or it's more of the same ole organic hype show found in cannabis forums.
 
cannawizard

cannawizard

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*all organic/carbon based ANYTHING breaks down to chemical(s)/biocomposition/atomiccomposition.. that i will not argue :)

--i think the organic guys are just saying its all in the delivery.. method.

its cooler with germs, hahaha

(i come in peace)
 
Wolverine97

Wolverine97

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Uncle Ben said:
Plants don't take in 'poop', they take in chemicals aka salts. There's no such thing as "organic chemicals". It's either potassium sulfate, ammonium sulfate, ammonium phosphate, potassium chloride, potassium nitrate, iron sulfate, etc. or it's more of the same ole organic hype show found in cannabis forums.
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Welp, it works pretty damned well for me... and what do you mean there's no such thing as "organic chemicals"? Whether my nitrates come from a synthetic source or organic, it's still a "chemical". Semantics...
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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Wolverine97 said:
Welp, it works pretty damned well for me... and what do you mean there's no such thing as "organic chemicals"? Whether my nitrates come from a synthetic source or organic, it's still a "chemical". Semantics...
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Organics are composed of inorganic minerals. Yep, it is all about the delivery. The only reason why I like blood meal is because it's a slow release of N. The fact that it's organic doesn't really matter. I'm into soil health, reason why I just dumped a truck load of horse compost on my reworked veggie garden.
 
Wolverine97

Wolverine97

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Uncle Ben said:
Organics are composed of inorganic minerals. Yep, it is all about the delivery. The only reason why I like blood meal is because it's a slow release of N. The fact that it's organic doesn't really matter. I'm into soil health, reason why I just dumped a truck load of horse compost on my reworked veggie garden.
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Yeah, I'm with ya there. It's all about the soil.
 
hypocritisizer

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Whats up guys! awesome thread going on,

so anyone ever consider useing benificial bacteria and fungi in their rockwool soaks???

i like to soak my rockwool in a P-K rich, ph'd, with some roots excelorater and superthrive. was doing some reading and am now considering going for some myco madness(or maximum, or maybe both with some great white). anyone every run this stuff in a rockwool soak?

peace out!
 
wyteboi

wyteboi

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hypocritisizer said:
Whats up guys! awesome thread going on,

so anyone ever consider useing benificial bacteria and fungi in their rockwool soaks???

i like to soak my rockwool in a P-K rich, ph'd, with some roots excelorater and superthrive. was doing some reading and am now considering going for some myco madness(or maximum, or maybe both with some great white). anyone every run this stuff in a rockwool soak?

peace out!
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You mean for cloning ? It wouldnt hurt either way.



soil
 
cannawizard

cannawizard

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hypocritisizer said:
Whats up guys! awesome thread going on,

so anyone ever consider useing benificial bacteria and fungi in their rockwool soaks???

i like to soak my rockwool in a P-K rich, ph'd, with some roots excelorater and superthrive. was doing some reading and am now considering going for some myco madness(or maximum, or maybe both with some great white). anyone every run this stuff in a rockwool soak?

peace out!
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*got some submerged rockwool w/ 25species.. test run of sorts... all gravvy... try it ;)
 
potpimp

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Yipeeeee, Uncle Ben is back!! Wolverine, I've followed UB's advice on many things and he is always right. He is not just a pot grower; he is a master gardener. Trust me, the man knows how to grow anything and especially pot! Uncle Ben it is so good to see you back here. I am proud to say you are my hero. :) I can't find the "kiss-ass" smileys, LOL.

...oh, there they are; you just type in the words.
 
Uncle Ben

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potpimp said:
Yipeeeee, Uncle Ben is back!! Wolverine, I've followed UB's advice on many things and he is always right. He is not just a pot grower; he is a master gardener. Trust me, the man knows how to grow anything and especially pot! Uncle Ben it is so good to see you back here. I am proud to say you are my hero. :) I can't find the "kiss-ass" smileys, LOL.

...oh, there they are; you just type in the words.
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Appreciate the kind words, have a good one!
 
tkowitha123

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This plant-fungal symbiosis is so suc*cessful that the vast majority of the world’s terrestrial plants, over 90 per*cent, form a mycorrhizal relationship in their natural habitats.
An excellent book that will assist your transition to organics is: Teaming With Microbes: The Organic Gardener’s Guide to the Soil Food Web

There are over 80 thousand white papers on the fungus and how it enhances plant growth and improves yields.
As bulk suppliers to the commercial trade all products are packaged in volume.

Hydroponics Application:


  1. Mix Mycorrhizae directly with seeds or they can be added directly to nutrient solution.
  2. Maintain a pH of 5.5-7.5 for best results
  3. Maintain P at less than 70ppm
  4. Use mycorrhizal inoculums that contain multiple species
  5. Use aeration in the system, or ebb/flow as these species are aerobic
  6. Once plants are effectively colonized fertility can be reduced 30%
  7. Best results are obtained with multiple applications throughout the growth cycle
 
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superjet

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i'm growing in straight coco using gh nutes, flora series, maxibloom, silica, Epsom and some calimagic basically. I have been growing a certain (larry) clone only now for almost two years with no change to my room other than changing my bulbs (ushios are the shit) and when I started using gh subculture m at transplants and the subculter b, florslicious plus and floranectar sugar cane, my shit improved big time! I am constantly growing out the same plant with mycos and bennies, and without, and nobody (on this planet) is going to tell me they don't improve my root zone and yield because they do/have. I didn't at first think they would work with chemical nutes, but my results say they do. i think it's some kind of conspiracy made by organic farmers that bennies and chemical ferts can't live together, hahaha.
 
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