Need advice from expert guerilla growers

psychadelibud

psychadelibud

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Ok I am a fairly expirienced grower going on 3 years now. I just have a few questions for an upcoming outdoor guerilla grow. In my area the helis fly hardcore and it is impossible to get away with patches or larger sized plots. So what I usually do is spread my girls out throughout a large area about 2 to 4 plants per plot sometimes even one. I tie all my plants down and top them a few times through theyre vegetative state however I stop during flowering but continue using lst. I usually dig about 2x2 holes and amend very little native soil with compressed bales of bacto or hydromix along with compost, water crystals, and oscomote time release ferts for a basic ammendment. I use higher nitrogen during veg and around flower till harvest i'll use bloom ferts and mollases and have been decently successful. This year in those same spots I extended my holes to 3-4ft wide and 2-3 feet deep. But my areas are always in thickets likes blackberry bushes, thick briars and very small trees. I use deep woodland to walk to the edge of these thickets and maybe enter anywhere from five to fifteen feet into the brush to avoid trails. The problem is the neighboring forest doesnt allow all day sun as to say if i were to walk deeper into the thicket but then id be more into the open. The trails isnt really a problem as i would still avoid them by crawling beneath the briars to get to my spots but then theyre in the open and would allow an easier spotting by the pot choppers. So i have a few questions. One, is it possible to grow in open thickets to allow more sun if i done many more plants and very small holes, which i figure would leave the plants shorter and smaller, yet allowing more plants? What techniques do you use to compete with the helis? I always feel the urge to go more open but the thought of getting some is better than losing all and giving my entire areas away. Please help me with this issue. Thanks!
 
psychadelibud

psychadelibud

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psychadelibud said:
Ok I am a fairly expirienced grower going on 3 years now. I just have a few questions for an upcoming outdoor guerilla grow. In my area the helis fly hardcore and it is impossible to get away with patches or larger sized plots. So what I usually do is spread my girls out throughout a large area about 2 to 4 plants per plot sometimes even one. I tie all my plants down and top them a few times through theyre vegetative state however I stop during flowering but continue using lst. I usually dig about 2x2 holes and amend very little native soil with compressed bales of bacto or hydromix along with compost, water crystals, and oscomote time release ferts for a basic ammendment. I use higher nitrogen during veg and around flower till harvest i'll use bloom ferts and mollases and have been decently successful. This year in those same spots I extended my holes to 3-4ft wide and 2-3 feet deep. But my areas are always in thickets likes blackberry bushes, thick briars and very small trees. I use deep woodland to walk to the edge of these thickets and maybe enter anywhere from five to fifteen feet into the brush to avoid trails. The problem is the neighboring forest doesnt allow all day sun as to say if i were to walk deeper into the thicket but then id be more into the open. The trails isnt really a problem as i would still avoid them by crawling beneath the briars to get to my spots but then theyre in the open and would allow an easier spotting by the pot choppers. So i have a few questions. One, is it possible to grow in open thickets to allow more sun if i done many more plants and very small holes, which i figure would leave the plants shorter and smaller, yet allowing more plants? What techniques do you use to compete with the helis? I always feel the urge to go more open but the thought of getting some is better than losing all and giving my entire areas away. Please help me with this issue. Thanks!
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I meant promix, not hydromix lol. I'm a little lifted on some blueberry as of right now, if you know what I mean. And by the way I am new to this forum, have been using it for just simple searchs to find answers to my questions, I dont like posting much to forums as my paranoia will set in. But oh well, thats a problem for me that I need to get over. Looking foward to a new start on rollitup and hopefully will start a grow journal soon!
 
psychadelibud

psychadelibud

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psychadelibud said:
I meant promix, not hydromix lol. I'm a little lifted on some blueberry as of right now, if you know what I mean. And by the way I am new to this forum, have been using it for just simple searchs to find answers to my questions, I dont like posting much to forums as my paranoia will set in. But oh well, thats a problem for me that I need to get over. Looking foward to a new start on rollitup and hopefully will start a grow journal soon!
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Well out of 164 views so far, still no help? I wish theyre were even more guerilla growers willing to help others, I am expirienced on indoor and 2-3 plant crops but going this route i'd like to have a little help. Could someone please help out a little? It doesnt have to be all professional information, just share your expiriences. Or would anyone know another forum where theyre are more expirienced willing to help growers?
 
BleedsGreen

BleedsGreen

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Sorry man wish I could give some advise to your problem but helicopters aren't a major issue here and I only grow enough for the wife and I so I never plant forests only 8 - 10 plants spread out in different areas. I think you are getting views because people want to help but no replies because they don't know how to help. Good luck!
 
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Lookwhatimblazn

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Yeah the only helix around me are when they are 100% Shure something's there like last season I saw one heli and they busted someone like 2 miles away from me and I was out in my spot and I was waving at them cuz if they woulda busted my little plant id laph my ass of at the waste of money but yeah the guy they busted had an arest warent
 
zack66

zack66

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I've been doing the outdoor thing for over 30 years. I think your better off growing 1 big plant in each area instead of several. Make yourself around 25 gallons of super soil, top and train them so they stay somewhat short around 5ft. But, nice and wide like a hedge. Good luck!
 
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hthang93

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I have the same problem as you i see 1 heli almost everyday during the season. The only thing i know is to keep them short and in small patches like 2 to 4 or even 1 depending on where your at and how other plants and stuff are layed out in your area, just try to make them blend in and look as natural as you can dont be breaking limbs or other stuff cause that can be noticeable from the air. Im growing in a honeysuckle thicket this year and theres a big circle in it like 10 ft roun and im gonna put a few there and try to keep them the same size and honeysuckle is kinda dark green like some mary j so that might help.
 
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hthang93

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Yea i read through your post agian and u seem to be on the right track case those blackberry bushes grow thick and all over the place just keep em spreaded out and u should be alright.

I just want to throw this out there tho, ive heard it from a few ole timers and seen it myself be careful bout walking through berry bushes and things like that cause where there is berry's there will be birds and snakes like to eat birds the snakes will wait around for the birds and then catch them. Try to invest in a pair of snake chaps it could save your life.
 
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3 Pounds of Weeden

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One thing I will say is that: from an aerial view, cannabis has a fluorescent glow; and since it is not indigenous to our area it's easily detected. I would recommend safely giving as much N to your plants as possible. It will take them from a glow, to a leafy dark green like anything else you'd see. Other than that just train them to look differently.
 
HIGHFLY

HIGHFLY

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I would if I was you not to make it look like your the grower and that they are natural plants growing there as long as they don't look noticible from the air like on top of the soil around the plant use foliage dead leaves to cover the darkness of the soil
 
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Lookwhatimblazn

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I'm tryn to figure out how to keep them from people lol I gotta alot of woods behind my house but alotta people go out there doing god knows what out there lol
 
psychadelibud

psychadelibud

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Hey guys thanks so much for the info. Lets keep this thread rolling, even if its just the motivation. We need more guerilla growers going deeper in depth about getting away with farming, even if it for personal use to putting food on the table and paying the bills in this screwed up economy. I say we start going deep into this with lots of thought and expirement to out do the pigs and heli birds because man theyre wasting our tax dollars and all that money on gasoline to fly those choppers. Its ridiculous! I have some pretty great techniques in mind that id like to share because I think the more we work together the more we out work those idiots in the sky. Its getting bad around here, bubble choppers hovering over peoples houses, gardens, corn fields, cane crops and just blowing the shit all over the place. C'mon guys lets get this ball rolling. And thanks for the tips everyone! But i have a feeling were just gettin started. Lets fire it up and start thinkin! Only a couple months and we'll be out there bustin our ass off and we do not wanna lose our babies. Its much much harder work than people could ever imagine!
 
drolove

drolove

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well im not very experienced with the gurilla thing but im giving it a shot this year. just wanted to say choppers are looking for crops of 100+ and USUALLY dont mess with small growers like us. ive got A LOT of heli traffic here and im growing about 10-15 plants in each of my 2 spots that have LOTS of open space. also going to use like 4 trail cams at each spot so ill know if anyones been there to check out my spot and what not.
 
South Texas

South Texas

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zack66 said:
I've been doing the outdoor thing for over 30 years. I think your better off growing 1 big plant in each area instead of several. Make yourself around 25 gallons of super soil, top and train them so they stay somewhat short around 5ft. But, nice and wide like a hedge. Good luck!
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This is correct. There is a wide varity of different srains, & each has it's various color, ie;, lime green to dark blue green. Get your local plant's colors noted, & pick strains/colors accordingly. I like to plant right in the middle of small sections of bushes, southeast & west unobsructed. Morning light is very important. Thrive, zealite, molasses, fish emusion, worms, liq-seaweed wholeground corn meal, etc. is a must. Approch from different angles, no trail, no cig butts, nothing with fingerprints. Not downwind of crop fieilds,.. they spray herbicides-weed killers. Wait until 13 hours of light per day to be safe from flowering too early. Your secret is a key... to prison. Hand that key to a "friend", you hand him the key to your life, freedom & future. If He/She gets mad, has a bad hair day, jeolous of potential big money, whatever, your ass is jacked. Tell people here, not in your real world- never. Good luck. Carry a bird-watching book, biocs & note pad/camera for a reason to be in the area. Best ting about Go-Rilla is, they have to actually catch you tending the plants, not just walking by. Having a bottle for plant food in the backpack is a key to prison....
 
lemmis

lemmis

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Like the other guys siad, best u can do is just a couple of plants in one area in an expanse of green, other types of green that is. Keep them well seperated and try to stagger separation so there is no "pattern" distinguishable.
 
psychadelibud

psychadelibud

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Thanks guys for keeping me rolling with all these new ideas and information, its really beneficial knowledge. I'm putting it all together and making something out of it. What do you guys think about growing in burlap? I come across alot of information and a few good threads about growing in burlap bags. In my area theyre is alot of blackberry thickets and honeysucle vines and all spread everywhere. Most growers dont get in there because of the labor and all the obstacles you have to go through. If you have ever tried clearing that shit out its a pain and it cause a very noticable clearing from the air. I was thinking start early in the season with burlap placed in the vegetation andas it grows the girls will grow with it. I was thinking the vines and thicket will help cover the burlap and it would be great camo and stealth. Its hard to do all that digging and stuff when you have afull time job and a family. I was also thinking since the vines and stuff grow so thick it would be good cover for the burlap and keep it from drying out so much. Have you guys have any expirience with this? Seems like a pretty good idea. If alot of people do it with success in guerilla growing i think id rather go this route instead of digging holes. Thanks guys.
 
OddBall1st

OddBall1st

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We`re here, we read, but we`re not that stupid !!
I`m happy you`re put`n all this benificial information together to make something of it !!
You`re asking all the right questions to the gullible willing to give, but make it look good with a bit of storyline !!

No, we shouldn`t all pool our ID`s and tricks of the trade into one big thread,..that`s F`n stupid is as stupid goes !!
The first rule of the elite grower is to keep your mouth shut,..but yet you ask them !!


Am I the only one here that thinks this guy is ATF ?
 
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