NEED HELP QUICKLY-Alcohol spray(for mites) has dried up all leaves and is killing my blooming plant.

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My outside, turned inside, unidentified plant(soil) was soon to be ready to harvest until my wife found mites while looking at triches through a loop. She freaked and without first researching it, she asked me to spray(soak) an alcohol based homemade spray to kill the mites. Before this time, almost all hairs were straight up and white, and triches were a mix of clear and cloudy, but a little more on the clear side.

A day after the foliage soaking, I notice ALL the hairs were now um lying down and amber. I checked the triches again, and saw that I had damaged some of them but they were probably still around 50% clear and 50% cloudy, with maybe one amber.

Since then all the smaller and larger leaves are basically drying up and falling off. The sugar leaves are all still green, without blemishes that I can see, but may be curling slightly downwards a bit.

I have since been foliar spraying with just water(trying to wash away leftover alcohol and whatever), but with the lights on or off, the leaves continue to crisp up and shrivel. I have the following nutes for this flowering stage; AN Sensi Bloom A&B, B-52, Big Bud and Overtime. Oh yeah and I have Flawless Finish for the two week flush before harvesting. Can I use any of these products in a foliar spray to bring life back into these leaves and to get all the residue off, from the homemade spray I first used. Any over ideas/help is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
 
Freddie Millergogo

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You have to be super careful not to get the soil drenched with alcohol if you spray with it. You need to cover the soil with plastic and a towel on top of the plastic.

10% (70% ISO) alcohol/90% water.
Get in there and spray spray spray with water and then run the fans when you are done. Make sure the soil is watered with water.

What did she use?

All you can do now is rinse/spray with water and flush the plant/soil with water. Do not over water too.
 
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Freddie, She used a YouTube remedy for white flies, which were killing our cucumber leaves along with our kohlrabi leaves, and other veggies in the garden. The spray contained a little of everything, but mostly water. It had 2 ounces of 50% Isopropyl Alcohol, 2 ounces Listerine(includes ~24.6% Alcohol), 4 ounces Dish Soap and a smaller amount, 1 oz. of Hydrogen Peroxide, but it also had much more water than all these other ingredients. I almost emptied the spray bottle on the plant, because I was so freaked. Now I need some quick tips to revive her so that I can start to do the final flush ~2 weeks before harvest. Almost all fan leaves, shriveled and dried up and fell off, along with more of the other leaves. Will foliar spraying the leaves with any nutes, like Advanced Nutrients B-52(or others I mentioned in OP), help bring the life back into the remaining leaves and buds, while removing any residue from the homemade spray(although the buds look good, except all those perty white hairs are ALL amber now)? Thanks.
 
Freddie Millergogo

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Did you rinse the plants with water - more than once and also drench the soil with water? If not do it now.

Maybe others have some ideas. My guess is the alcohol got in the soil.
 
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front360 said:
My outside, turned inside, unidentified plant(soil) was soon to be ready to harvest until my wife found mites while looking at triches through a loop. She freaked and without first researching it, she asked me to spray(soak) an alcohol based homemade spray to kill the mites. Before this time, almost all hairs were straight up and white, and triches were a mix of clear and cloudy, but a little more on the clear side.

A day after the foliage soaking, I notice ALL the hairs were now um lying down and amber. I checked the triches again, and saw that I had damaged some of them but they were probably still around 50% clear and 50% cloudy, with maybe one amber.

Since then all the smaller and larger leaves are basically drying up and falling off. The sugar leaves are all still green, without blemishes that I can see, but may be curling slightly downwards a bit.

I have since been foliar spraying with just water(trying to wash away leftover alcohol and whatever), but with the lights on or off, the leaves continue to crisp up and shrivel. I have the following nutes for this flowering stage; AN Sensi Bloom A&B, B-52, Big Bud and Overtime. Oh yeah and I have Flawless Finish for the two week flush before harvesting. Can I use any of these products in a foliar spray to bring life back into these leaves and to get all the residue off, from the homemade spray I first used. Any over ideas/help is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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it is the alch based anything .........u stripped the clean the gland heads when u sprayed it the thc and other chemicals in it was stranded onto the leaf itself ......as for the alch it is gone passed into the air a long time ago ......it is the chemicals from the glands nothing u can really do but section that plant off and use it for oil /butter/joints

no u need to get flower kiss http://foxfarmfertilizer.com/index.php/item/bush-doctor-flowers-kiss.html
and add in B-52 10 mls to the feed now to help with stress

try bud candy it might help the gland heads recover .....but it will help swell the other ones up
 
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front360 said:
My outside, turned inside, unidentified plant(soil) was soon to be ready to harvest until my wife found mites while looking at triches through a loop. She freaked and without first researching it, she asked me to spray(soak) an alcohol based homemade spray to kill the mites. Before this time, almost all hairs were straight up and white, and triches were a mix of clear and cloudy, but a little more on the clear side.

A day after the foliage soaking, I notice ALL the hairs were now um lying down and amber. I checked the triches again, and saw that I had damaged some of them but they were probably still around 50% clear and 50% cloudy, with maybe one amber.

Since then all the smaller and larger leaves are basically drying up and falling off. The sugar leaves are all still green, without blemishes that I can see, but may be curling slightly downwards a bit.

I have since been foliar spraying with just water(trying to wash away leftover alcohol and whatever), but with the lights on or off, the leaves continue to crisp up and shrivel. I have the following nutes for this flowering stage; AN Sensi Bloom A&B, B-52, Big Bud and Overtime. Oh yeah and I have Flawless Finish for the two week flush before harvesting. Can I use any of these products in a foliar spray to bring life back into these leaves and to get all the residue off, from the homemade spray I first used. Any over ideas/help is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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all i can say is facepalm
 
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Freddie Millergogo said:
Did you rinse the plants with water - more than once and also drench the soil with water? If not do it now.

Maybe others have some ideas. My guess is the alcohol got in the soil.
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Freddie, no I have just been spraying water(soaking) on the leaves and buds. So should I take the plant in the shower? Drench the plant and leaves for how long and how cold/warm should the water be? While in shower how many gallons of water should I run through the soil? It's in a 5 Gal Smart Part, so should I use 3 tanks of 5 Gal each(15 Gal)? Maybe, just until the water runs clear?
 
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The time limit to edit this message (720 minutes) has expired."

Why is there a time limit to edit your own OP?
Also, where is the upload photo editor, so I can crop or shrink a pic so it doesn't fail with an error?

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Freddie Millergogo

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Just spray it down with water in a water bottle and keep watering it. Do not over water. Make sure it is dry before putting it under bright lights.

What kind of lights are you using?
 
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Freddie Millergogo said:
Just spray it down with water in a water bottle and keep watering it. Do not over water. Make sure it is dry before putting it under bright lights.

What kind of lights are you using?
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My one and only was outside for all Veg. and a couple months of Flowering, then the weather got this newb scared, so I bought 2 60w CFL's with shields and a 30w CFL, so I could finish it off inside. I'm home so I rotate the plant every 3 hours on a 10/10 schedule. A 60w on top, another 60w on the side, and the 30w across from the 60w on the opposite side.
 
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Well, all the fan leaves are gone. Will the sugar leaves continue to make the buds larger or doesn't it work like that? Or will the nutrient water make the buds continue to grow bigger? I just trying to figure out if I should start chopping it now, or is there a chance that the Triches will replenish themselves?
 
Freddie Millergogo

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front360 said:
Well, all the fan leaves are gone. Will the sugar leaves continue to make the buds larger or doesn't it work like that? Or will the nutrient water make the buds continue to grow bigger? I just trying to figure out if I should start chopping it now, or is there a chance that the Triches will replenish themselves?
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Post a picture. Keep trying to water to hopefully revive the plant. I am not sure you have enough lights to get the buds to grow that much. The CFL thread guys may know.
 
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^Freddie, pics were posted 3 posts above yours.

Thanks guys, I'm sorry for all the following questions but the answers would really help.
There are basically only 6 fan leaves left on the plant, the alcohol killed the rest. I just noticed 3 new straight white hairs on the top flower. I was waiting a little longer to see if the trichs will regrow too. When I do decide to finally flush the soil plant, how do I go about doing it? I have Flawless Finish to use too. Do I stop all other nutes and just feed water with Flawless Finish for 2 weeks? Do I start by putting the plant in the bathtub and give it 3 times the water I usually give? Its in a 5 gallon Smart Pot, so if I usually fed it 1 gallon, would I use 3 gallons water(with Flawless Finish) to start the flush? How do I get the chlorophyll out of the 6 fan leaves, sugar leaves and the bud? Or does starving the plant of nutes take care of that? Does the light cycle stay at 12/12 until harvest? I read somewhere to leave the plant in total darkness the last two days but I'm not sure if that's true. Anything else you think of, please teach me.
 
Freddie Millergogo

Freddie Millergogo

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front360 said:
^Freddie, pics were posted 3 posts above yours.

Thanks guys, I'm sorry for all the following questions but the answers would really help.
There are basically only 6 fan leaves left on the plant, the alcohol killed the rest. I just noticed 3 new straight white hairs on the top flower. I was waiting a little longer to see if the trichs will regrow too. When I do decide to finally flush the soil plant, how do I go about doing it? I have Flawless Finish to use too. Do I stop all other nutes and just feed water with Flawless Finish for 2 weeks? Do I start by putting the plant in the bathtub and give it 3 times the water I usually give? Its in a 5 gallon Smart Pot, so if I usually fed it 1 gallon, would I use 3 gallons water(with Flawless Finish) to start the flush? How do I get the chlorophyll out of the 6 fan leaves, sugar leaves and the bud? Or does starving the plant of nutes take care of that? Does the light cycle stay at 12/12 until harvest? I read somewhere to leave the plant in total darkness the last two days but I'm not sure if that's true. Anything else you think of, please teach me.
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Hopefully others will chime in to help. I would just keep watering and checking for bugs. I would not totally cut the nutes. I am not sure if those lights have enough horsepower to get decent buds. Keep checking for bugs too.
 
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I was told that lights I'm using were good enough to finish flowering it indoors. Anybody around to help me by answering the questions, from my post before this? If so, thanks.
 
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Eh, harvest turned out ok but afterwards I wasn't able to re-veg because there were almost none leaves left, and I guess the buds don't have enough surface area for light to cause her to re-veg.
Can someone please pm me a few reputable sites for seed, on the low to mid price range.
If so, thanks in advance.
 
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