Need help with plant.

MoroccanRoll

MoroccanRoll

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In the first picture, the leaves are dark green and "clawing" at the tips. Yes this can indicate high nitrogen however it will often resolve itself. Have patience. Especially with a soil grow. The plants will often adjust by themselves.

The pictures of the nodes on your plant are showing calyx growth. Congratulations, it's a girl!

Not sure what you mean about the folded leaves. If it is new growth, this may just be the leaves unfolding. If it is what is sometimetimes referred to as "tacoing" or "canoeing", it may mean that your lights are too close and causing heat stress at the top of the plant.

Not sure about the damaged leaf picture. Could just be damage from handling or it could be a real issue. I'm sure there are other members here that can give better guidance on that.
 
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slipperyflop

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MoroccanRoll said:
In the first picture, the leaves are dark green and "clawing" at the tips. Yes this can indicate high nitrogen however it will often resolve itself. Have patience. Especially with a soil grow. The plants will often adjust by themselves.

The pictures of the nodes on your plant are showing calyx growth. Congratulations, it's a girl!

Not sure what you mean about the folded leaves. If it is new growth, this may just be the leaves unfolding. If it is what is sometimetimes referred to as "tacoing" or "canoeing", it may mean that your lights are too close and causing heat stress at the top of the plant.

Not sure about the damaged leaf picture. Could just be damage from handling or it could be a real issue. I'm sure there are other members here that can give better guidance on that.
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Many thanks about that info, i havent consumed any nutrients, does the nutrients make it thc level better or bigger yields? i dont have any good nutrients in my country and i wanna just get it by watering, and yes i meant the "canoeing", "tacoing".
 
Kyzersozay

Kyzersozay

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nutrients will definitely help yield and potency are there no gardening stores where you live? Or access to Amazon?, if you do find stuff for flowering you want higher p,k, (npk) look for numbers like 1-10-10(just an example) there are way of making stufd at-home too just takes a awhile Google can help with that
 
MoroccanRoll

MoroccanRoll

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slipperyflop said:
Many thanks about that info, i havent consumed any nutrients, does the nutrients make it thc level better or bigger yields? i dont have any good nutrients in my country and i wanna just get it by watering, and yes i meant the "canoeing", "tacoing".
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Whether or not you will have to fertilize depends on what soil you are using. I use a pretty heavily amended soil mix and can just add water to easily get through flower with my plants in 5 gallon pots. Some people grow using oganic living soil and ferilize with compost/compost teas. Some people like to throw everything they can at their plants to try to optimize yield.

If you want to get by with water only, go for it. Your plants will tell you if the soil is getting "used up". Generally you'll see premature chlorosis or yellowing of the leaves starting at the bottom. This is an indication your plant is using the nitrogen (mobile nutrient) in the lower leaves to promote growth at the top of the plant. If this is the case, you can then begin feeding the plant.

If your country has farming or gardening, you have access to all the nutrients you need. Nutrients or "nutes" are just fertilizer. If available, you can buy fertilizer formulated for tomatoes. Tomatoes, like marijuana, prefer slightly acidic soil. Tomato fertilizers are usually balanced more toward providing nutrients for fruiting or flowering as opposed to leaf or vegetative growth. Lower nitrogen (N), higher phosphorus (P) and potassium (K).
 
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slipperyflop

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MoroccanRoll said:
Whether or not you will have to fertilize depends on what soil you are using. I use a pretty heavily amended soil mix and can just add water to easily get through flower with my plants in 5 gallon pots. Some people grow using oganic living soil and ferilize with compost/compost teas. Some people like to throw everything they can at their plants to try to optimize yield.

If you want to get by with water only, go for it. Your plants will tell you if the soil is getting "used up". Generally you'll see premature chlorosis or yellowing of the leaves starting at the bottom. This is an indication your plant is using the nitrogen (mobile nutrient) in the lower leaves to promote growth at the top of the plant. If this is the case, you can then begin feeding the plant.

If your country has farming or gardening, you have access to all the nutrients you need. Nutrients or "nutes" are just fertilizer. If available, you can buy fertilizer formulated for tomatoes. Tomatoes, like marijuana, prefer slightly acidic soil. Tomato fertilizers are usually balanced more toward providing nutrients for fruiting or flowering as opposed to leaf or vegetative growth. Lower nitrogen (N), higher phosphorus (P) and potassium (K).
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What N-P-K should the bottles be?
 
BaRabus

BaRabus

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Weedcare55 said:
Are u gonna top them or lst them?
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That's the problem... You need to either get a fan in the to move the leaves and shed light ...

ie..get to Topping (creating more nodes to produce more tops=buds) the Plant and LST (low-stress training) to open up and get some light at the same time you need to defoliate a couple of fan leaves that are Hogging up the light...those big fans on top of the lower are shading...However, training is in order.
 
MoroccanRoll

MoroccanRoll

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Okay, the curling leaves at the top and the the drooping leaves at the bottom look a whole lot like heat stress and watering issues. What kind of lights are you using and how close are your lights to the top of the canopy? What is the temperature in your grow area? How big are your pots? We know from your previous post, you're watering 0.44 l/day.

It doesn't look like you have to worry about nutrient or fertilizer yet. You may need to feed them after several weeks of flowering. Since you're switching to 12/12 light schedule, find something that is available in your country that is lower in N, higher in P and K. Don't worry about exact ratios. 5-10-8? 2-5-5? It doesn't really matter. Don't add too much at first, start with a little and see how your plants respond over the next several days. Since you are top watering, you can use either liquid or dry fertilizer.
 
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slipperyflop

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MoroccanRoll said:
Okay, the curling leaves at the top and the the drooping leaves at the bottom look a whole lot like heat stress and watering issues. What kind of lights are you using and how close are your lights to the top of the canopy? What is the temperature in your grow area? How big are your pots? We know from your previous post, you're watering 0.44 l/day.

It doesn't look like you have to worry about nutrient or fertilizer yet. You may need to feed them after several weeks of flowering. Since you're switching to 12/12 light schedule, find something that is available in your country that is lower in N, higher in P and K. Don't worry about exact ratios. 5-10-8? 2-5-5? It doesn't really matter. Don't add too much at first, start with a little and see how your plants respond over the next several days. Since you are top watering, you can use either liquid or dry fertilizer.
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i use 250W HID, temperature is about 23 to 28, if i use the fan it is to 19. The pots, uhm cant really tell but about 7-10liters. and it is about 30cm away from the plants.
 
MoroccanRoll

MoroccanRoll

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You should maybe increase the distance from the lights to the plants. If you hold your hand at the top of the plants is it uncomfortable?

For watering, I know people recommend watering 20%-25% of the pot volume. When i was manually watering, I watered slowly - about 1/2 liter at a time to allow the soil to absorb the water - just until runoff - and then waited until the soil dried a little before watering again. The leaves will start to droop a little when the soil starts to dry. Now i use sub-irrigation and don't worry about watering.
 
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slipperyflop

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MoroccanRoll said:
You should maybe increase the distance from the lights to the plants. If you hold your hand at the top of the plants is it uncomfortable?

For watering, I know people recommend watering 20%-25% of the pot volume. When i was manually watering, I watered slowly - about 1/2 liter at a time to allow the soil to absorb the water - just until runoff - and then waited until the soil dried a little before watering again. The leaves will start to droop a little when the soil starts to dry. Now i use sub-irrigation and don't worry about watering.
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now it is like this, whats wrong?://
 

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MoroccanRoll

MoroccanRoll

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Looks overwatered. You said you're watering every day. Do you wait for the soil to dry out between waterings? Wait 3 or 4 days before you water again.
 
MoroccanRoll

MoroccanRoll

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okay. It can be difficult to tell in pictures the difference between overwater and underwater. when you add water do the plants get better or worse?
 
MoroccanRoll

MoroccanRoll

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You are underwatering your plants. Add more water. Your plants will show you what they want. You have to observe carefully.
 
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