NEED HELP WITH PROMIX

Daydreamer85

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Bugeye said:
That sounds good, yes, cal/mag always, water or feed. Was wondering if maybe you were not. 240 is a bit higher than what I run, I top at 200, but I don't know that 240 is a problem.
Your leaf structure is perfect and the only marbled dis-coloring I can see in your close up looks to be on newer growth, which would suggest an immobile nutrient is involved somehow, lockout or deficient. Check your soil ph if you can, no way to know if every bag gets exact same ratio of lime and peat moss. After that, make only minor changes to try and narrow it down, you aren't off by much on whatever it is. Nice work.
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Going by the charts it looks like a iron or sulfur or magnesium def. but im feeding planty of food. Ph is 6.3 going in and runoff ph and ppms are pretty close to that with ppm being about 150 more then the feed. The research i have read seems excess calcium blocks those? Im a bit lost
 
Daydreamer85

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Bugeye said:
That could be it, the Epsom spray, perfectly good thing to do. Are those close up leaves going yellower or are the edges going darker green? If you are not sure, watch them for a few days. I have seen some leaves blotch like that after Epsom sprays and they turned out great. If so, they will fully green in time, some parts are just greener faster.
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The epsom didn’t help at all. That yellowing has spread to other leaves. I have a plant 7 days into flower showing the same issues
 

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Daydreamer85

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shaggydog365 said:
Also looks like over watering, you can see speedbumps, and puffy leaves, over watering rotts off the root hairs on the roots, and then the plant can't uptake anything but water, that's where the purple comes into play, the purple is the first sing of MAG diefinency, first it starts very little purple on the upside towards the light, then the whole stem turns purple. The only thing to do is lay off the water, and ad microbes, then ,maybe you can repair the roots, but it's probably to late. I've been growing for 11yrs.
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How can i lay off the water? The pot is bone dry after 2 days. I water/feed again to 20% runoff then wait till its bone dry 2 days later and repeat
 
Bugeye

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Sleep on it for a night or two, keep doing what you are doing. Be really sure they are yellowing, tag a blotchy leaf and recheck it to verify. I've been fooled by leaves that looked blotchy but we're actually just darkening up in a blotchy way following foliar sprays.
 
Bodyne

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I find with promix that if its even halfway dry, if you water less, but water daily, they might come out of it. I use just a lil URB which is the microbes and sometimes liquid karma, but if they yellowing like that, it would seem to me, not enough food and too much water or maybe just not enough food. But I don't do the runoff thing or measure it. I just handwater ph'd juice, but I use smart pots and I have better luck with no runoff, but the pot damp and heavier, than soaking. IMHO if they are that dry after two days, they are eating and drinkin what you are giving them, it just may not be enough. You might try the epsom in the watering instead of foliar also. I have better luck making a cal mag mix you can find on site here with epsom salts, but to feed, not to spray with. jmho and jme
 
Daydreamer85

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Bugeye said:
Sleep on it for a night or two, keep doing what you are doing. Be really sure they are yellowing, tag a blotchy leaf and recheck it to verify. I've been fooled by leaves that looked blotchy but we're actually just darkening up in a blotchy way following foliar sprays.
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Cant sleep on it anymore lol my whole garden has the same issues...i flushed them with plain ro water last night down to 400ppm runoff. When they are dry im gonna have to try something new. Maybe take the house and garden rep advise and drop the calmag? Or add less maybe 100ppm? Or drop it all together and add a couple hundred ppms of apsom with the feed? Idk at this point
 
Bugeye

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Purple striping isn't always an issue, it can be from cold nights (which I think locks out K?), or more commonly genetic.
 
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Daydreamer85 said:
Cant sleep on it anymore lol my whole garden has the same issues...i flushed them with plain ro water last night down to 400ppm runoff. When they are dry im gonna have to try something new. Maybe take the house and garden rep advise and drop the calmag? Or add less maybe 100ppm? Or drop it all together and add a couple hundred ppms of apsom with the feed? Idk at this point
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Nah, nothing drastic, I'd take the cal/mag down to 200 and feed a little more frequently or push the overall ppm up a bit. Good luck! Those wrinkly leaves will straighten out when the fan leaves reach their final massive size.
 
Daydreamer85

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Bugeye said:
Nah, nothing drastic, I'd take the cal/mag down to 200 and feed a little more frequently or push the overall ppm up a bit. Good luck! Those wrinkly leaves will straighten out when the fan leaves reach their final massive size.
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The planta are getting more pale as time goes on....gotta be some kind of lockout happening ugh
 
Chef420

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Personally I think your plants look fine. New growth always looks lighter in colour. There are no yellowing/dying leaves down below. I veg under T5’s then move to the flower tent which has cobs. That seems to stress mine and purple them a bit. At that point I double my cal/mg for two feeds.
I grow in pro mix hp and use Botanicare. I add 4ml/g to r/o water for both waterings and feedings. I alternate: feed water feed water. When everything is working they dry out every 3 days.
 
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Chef420 said:
Personally I think your plants look fine. New growth always looks lighter in colour. There are no yellowing/dying leaves down below. I veg under T5’s then move to the flower tent which has cobs. That seems to stress mine and purple them a bit. At that point I double my cal/mg for two feeds.
I grow in pro mix hp and use Botanicare. I add 4ml/g to r/o water for both waterings and feedings. I alternate: feed water feed water. When everything is working they dry out every 3 days.
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The whole plant has the lighter then normal look. So your only using 2ml of calmag + during veg? Whats your ppm of nuter to calmag? I am using 4-5ml of calmag already and they still look def so im assuming some kind of block going on. On water only days arw you there is nothing low on mine because i cut everything below off, so its just tops. Makes it hard to diagnose though because its hard to tell if the def is starting on the top or bottom technically its all top
 
Budzbuddha

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I think you reading way too much into it ... hovering is sure way to shit the grow.

They look fine to me. Leaves have and DO get mottling from time to time.
They are open and receptive to light - leaves are horizontal and spread evenly.
And seem happy.

Just stick to 6.3 or 6.5 ... stop flushing ( which will cause “ leaching “ of medium ) which in turn causes imbalance in soil. It’s a plant ... it will have this and that . Especially when using synthetic Nutes. This is an inoculated mix with a light precharge . There is no reason to check run off.

Your nute choice looks to be the weakest link. There are many others offering more “ complete “ offerings .

Easy fix ... go get a bag of FFOF , top dress your pots with a handful .. water in and let them be.
It will act like a feed and also have stabilized ph going in.
 
Daydreamer85

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Budzbuddha said:
I think you reading way too much into it ... hovering is sure way to shit the grow.

They look fine to me. Leaves have and DO get mottling from time to time.
They are open and receptive to light - leaves are horizontal and spread evenly.
And seem happy.

Just stick to 6.3 or 6.5 ... stop flushing ( which will cause “ leaching “ of medium ) which in turn causes imbalance in soil. It’s a plant ... it will have this and that . Especially when using synthetic Nutes. This is an inoculated mix with a light precharge . There is no reason to check run off.

Your nute choice looks to be the weakest link. There are many others offering more “ complete “ offerings .

Easy fix ... go get a bag of FFOF , top dress your pots with a handful .. water in and let them be.
It will act like a feed and also have stabilized ph going in.
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You think house and garden is a weak line? I was using the gh 3 part with calmag on one plant in the beginning and it was showing the same thing. I have 5 strains growing and all are pale with purple stems and yellowing between veins. If it was a normal thing or genetic it shouldnt be on al of them?
 
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