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DrNoob

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The 125w QB (single board I assume) is ideal for 60cm x 60cm at 18" above canopy, you should be dimmed down to 50% at that height in that space.
The 24/7 light schedule only compounds the problem. Plants getting way more light that it can handle all day, every day.

Not saying you haven't got other things going on, but pretty sure if your running that light at 100% in your circumstances its going to fry your plant and make you chase your tail looking for a solution, with symptoms of every deficiency you can think of.

knock it down to max 20/4, dim it a lot, raise temps a few degrees if its possible and hope she finished ok.
Thank you man!
 

TrippleDip

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When it turned into preflower on day 25 I fed: micro .75
grow .5
bloom .5
Always between 2 and 3 litres so that I have less than 10% runoff
Since day 39 I feed as ghe recommends for flower (thinking they were underfet)
.8 micro
.7 micro
2.1 bloom
All in ml per litre
Are those tsp? Nvm. I feed those at 5, 4, 7.5 mL/gal in bloom and your #s are about 3.2, 2.8, and 8 ml/gal. So I think you are probably ok for feed, under not overfed if anything because you don't have burnt tips.

In the original pictures it looks like the leaves are swollen, like they are overwatered maybe, or like they can't transpire from either too low or high humidity or too high temps. This is why I suggested making sure the fan isn't blowing directly on the canopy - your leaves don't look windswept but high airflow can prevent transpiration.

Problem is with plants, and I'm sure you've already figured this out is that many different causes have similar symptoms. The yellowing in between veins on the leaves for example could be caused by underfeeding or by lack of nutrient uptake due to inadequate transpiration or root problems.

Imo, check of easy to do things first. Make sure your pots are dry before you water, this is super important because roots need air. Do the lift test or shove your finger in to the second joint. Overwatering is my favourite way to kill houseplants because once they are overwatered they stop taking up water and if you keep watering at the same frequency then the problem compounds.

I am not an expert on quantum boards, but I agree with coreywebster above that maybe they are getting too much light 24h vs 20h maybe. I see this a lot, but sometimes my plants get right up to these 200w lights and the only problems I've ever had are crispy leaves. It is 400w in a 2x4 space and I like them about 8" from the tops btw. Again, I'm not an expert on qbs and don't know how hot they get or their radiation pattern, etc.
 

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LockedOutSmokedOut

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May not be a good suggestion this far into flower. But last year I got rootbound on a plant. But I was running out of space. Looked up found threads one fabric pots. Same fabric as those “green” shopping bags. I got probably 3 gallons of dirt or more in these and keep the roots growing out ward helped keep plant short and grew bushy
 

DarkWeb

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May not be a good suggestion this far into flower. But last year I got rootbound on a plant. But I was running out of space. Looked up found threads one fabric pots. Same fabric as those “green” shopping bags. I got probably 3 gallons of dirt or more in these and keep the roots growing out ward helped keep plant short and grew bushy
I'm sure the shopping bags work but I've never seen one that is the same or even comparable fabric as grow bags. I've had milk and eggs blow out a seam on them........and for 10.99 on amazon for 5 - 7gal bags I'd hate to kill a plant to save $2
 

DrNoob

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Are those tsp? Nvm. I feed those at 5, 4, 7.5 mL/gal in bloom and your #s are about 3.2, 2.8, and 8 ml/gal. So I think you are probably ok for feed, under not overfed if anything because you don't have burnt tips.

In the original pictures it looks like the leaves are swollen, like they are overwatered maybe, or like they can't transpire from either too low or high humidity or too high temps. This is why I suggested making sure the fan isn't blowing directly on the canopy - your leaves don't look windswept but high airflow can prevent transpiration.

Problem is with plants, and I'm sure you've already figured this out is that many different causes have similar symptoms. The yellowing in between veins on the leaves for example could be caused by underfeeding or by lack of nutrient uptake due to inadequate transpiration or root problems.

Imo, check of easy to do things first. Make sure your pots are dry before you water, this is super important because roots need air. Do the lift test or shove your finger in to the second joint. Overwatering is my favourite way to kill houseplants because once they are overwatered they stop taking up water and if you keep watering at the same frequency then the problem compounds.

I am not an expert on quantum boards, but I agree with coreywebster above that maybe they are getting too much light 24h vs 20h maybe. I see this a lot, but sometimes my plants get right up to these 200w lights and the only problems I've ever had are crispy leaves. It is 400w in a 2x4 space and I like them about 8" from the tops btw. Again, I'm not an expert on qbs and don't know how hot they get or their radiation pattern, etc.
All of the units were in ml per litre.
The leaves aren't swollen at all but rather small and droopy.
Maybe the size is limited because of the limited size of the pot.the roots are fine however.i think she is slowly recovering and the new growth looks far more deep green.i think dimming down the light and switching to 20/4 could be a good start.ill keep you guys updated:)
Again thanks so far!
 

DrNoob

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Hi again,
so here's a little update for you. The droopiness went off and everything looks quite active again.but the coloring of the leaves is actually wilder than b4.
Yet does new growth below the canopy look fresh and deep green.
The last time I flushed with triple pot size (15l=4gal) at pH 5.9-6.0
Then I let it dry out almost completely and yesterday I gave only one litre of water with nutes at pH 6.5. I also reduced the light to 50% and switched the light cycle from 24/0 to 20/4. What do you think?
 

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DrNoob

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Hey people,
so I am close to finishing my first grow but I don't know how long to go.officially it's one more week to go.i was planning to flush from now on but if you say she needs more than 2 weeks I would keep feeding a little longer. So please let your expertise rain on me:)
Thanks so far.
 

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DrNoob

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Check back in 2 weeks. Plants are looking a bit healthier than earlier pictures though :)

Yes they do :))
What do you mean by check back in 2 weeks? that I should keep feeding for two more weeks? I planned to flush for at least week b4 chopping. That would make 3 more weeks in total.do you agree?:)
 

Hust17

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Yes they do :))
What do you mean by check back in 2 weeks? that I should keep feeding for two more weeks? I planned to flush for at least week b4 chopping. That would make 3 more weeks in total.do you agree?:)
Pretty well, maybe check back in 10 days :) Looks kinda hazy, how far into flower are you now?

edit: judging by your first post I’d say you’re about 6-6.5 weeks into flower or so.
 

DrNoob

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Pretty well, maybe check back in 10 days :) Looks kinda hazy, how far into flower are you now?

edit: judging by your first post I’d say you’re about 6-6.5 weeks into flower or so.
Well,since it is an auto I can only tell you that I'm at day 70. Officially it's said to need 10-11 weeks but I thought that she might need a bit longer with all the trouble I had during week 4-8. I can't tell if I reached the end of the road or if there will be another push of the buds gaining a little more volume.
 

Hust17

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Well,since it is an auto I can only tell you that I'm at day 70. Officially it's said to need 10-11 weeks but I thought that she might need a bit longer with all the trouble I had during week 4-8. I can't tell if I reached the end of the road or if there will be another push of the buds gaining a little more volume.
Yes the calyxes should swell. The pistils should recede more as well :)
 

kotobide

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I'm in soil (plagron bat mix) but I used mineral fertilizer(ghe trio) - I know not the best way to do it
"This mixture is 100% organic, made from a mix of specific peats of the best quality; worm hummus and bat guano in the perfect proportion so that your plants have everything they need up till the 6th week of your grow, rewarding you with some amazingly vigorous plants."

I think the problem is that you have been locking out from over feeding with ferts as with that medium you don't need to feed for 6 weeks.
 

DrNoob

Member
"This mixture is 100% organic, made from a mix of specific peats of the best quality; worm hummus and bat guano in the perfect proportion so that your plants have everything they need up till the 6th week of your grow, rewarding you with some amazingly vigorous plants."

I think the problem is that you have been locking out from over feeding with ferts as with that medium you don't need to feed for 6 weeks.
I know...
I learned my lesson.
Does your answer imply that I can finish next week or should I stick to hust17's plan?
 

kotobide

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Without seeing things under a scope it looks to be still spitting out pistils so hustl17s probably close with saying a couple weeks out yet. I personality don't flush and wouldn't more so with autos due to the shortened lifetime.
 

DrNoob

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Without seeing things under a scope it looks to be still spitting out pistils so hustl17s probably close with saying a couple weeks out yet. I personality don't flush and wouldn't more so with autos due to the shortened lifetime.
She does!
So I just decided feeding a week more and then come back again!
Thank you guys:)
 

DrNoob

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Well, I decided to start flushing two days ago and now I am planning to chop her on Sunday after two days with no light.i am not so sure if she gain much more volume plus some of the sugar leaves started turning brown already.what do you think?
 

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