Stinkmeaner
Well-Known Member
if your gonna medicate yoself, Kush is the way to go!
New grower trying to choose a strain
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wyteberrywidow
Global
Thats supposed to be real deal chemdawg so you should be fine..
wyteberrywidow
Global
Now that sounds good.
I think the first choice on your list is the best for a newbie - and will not disappoint experienced growers.
- LA Conf - has the exact stature you desire - very Indica (100%???)
- She's a healthy, vigorous plant that is easy to root
- You can feed her if you have the light
- She's a good yielder
- The Bubba in LA Conf always makes her a favorite with that seductive, spicy note
- Great medicine for sleep
The downside, real REAL og is not a big yielder, can't be purchased from seed, and can be hard to grow (as many stretchy varietals are). It's all about bud support with the OG - or planning in advance with trellis, cages, etc.
However you go, I would suggest sticking with a strain for several cycles, as you hone your craft. Unless it sucks, keeping with the same strain will allow you to isolate and improve on your growing methods, rather than trying to learn the feeding and growing characteristics of a different strain each round. Once you get the hang of it (and learn how to listen to plants), you can branch out and try another strain. Of course genetics are EVERYTHING and you should never miss an opportunity to improve upon the stock you have.
wyteberrywidow
Global
what bubba in la conidential... l.a. affie x afghani is not bubba..
la confidential is a low yielder..
la confidential is a low yielder..
Yeah - the real LA Conf I know is, basically, a big yielding Bubba... and often passed as straight out Bubba. LA Affie (what is that a mix of?) ....there's no Bubba in that?
You likely know better than I - sorry to step on any toes!
Good luck with whatever you decide on!
wyteberrywidow
Global
Can you find anything that can back up this claim because i sure cant..Do you know the mix of la affie?
Can you show me?
just finished my first crop of lowryder 2.. there beautiful.. smell is mmm. they look bushy lots of bud sites.. some of my grow didnt seem to like nutes and believe some dwarf stains dont like nutes..
but all in all was very happy with my first crop.. but still learning and watching and trying.. can anyone give me some advise on nivarna venus flytrap??? my next grow??
jah rastafari..
Peace.
but all in all was very happy with my first crop.. but still learning and watching and trying.. can anyone give me some advise on nivarna venus flytrap??? my next grow??
jah rastafari..
Peace.
shishkaboy
Well-Known Member
i can show u. thats why ive been asking u this question i knew it was true
shishkaboy
Well-Known Member
I thought you might all want to know this info.......
After much contemplation of starting this thread(I have a feeling some Bubba lovers will be heartbroken), I decided to post it because I believe the PRE98 OG Bubba and Oregon Afghani are the same strain..
Please feel free to add any first hand information that you might have.
old hypothesis=
PRE98 Bubba is either an s1 or a clone of the Oregon Afghani clone that has been renamed (I personally think it's a renamed clone because they are exactly the same)
I'm not one for believing weed stories of clone only strains without proof, especially when I've seen first hand renaming in the Medical Dispensary era to try and gain sales with catchy names. I can't tell you how many strains I've come across that are the same as older cuts, but just have new names...
It's a pet-peeve of mine.... I think names should be kept the same for the integrity of cannabis' future...although, other people may believe in renaming strains to increase sales...
In the US people prefer to buy Kush over Afghani, it has been proven with dispensary sales.
My story;
In 1996 I was first introduced to the Oregon Afghani when a friend who I worked with turned me on to this strain. His father had this strain since late 1970s/early 80s. My friend claimed his Dad and hippy friends had acquired the afghani seeds while traveling on Dead tour in 1970s.
The dad and his friends always referred to this bud as Affy or Ghanni, never Afghani (at least back then). These guys grew the best weed I smoked at that point in time and really motivated me to step up my grows. After my first grow with her, I became uninterested in growing the Oregon Afghani due to it's super slow veg time because my grow situation at the time required faster vegging plants to keep the rotation on track.
After a number of years when my grow space increased, and I ended up acquiring the Oregon Afghani Clone as well as a strain called OG Bubba Kush from a different friend.
These strains were so similar that I opted to discontinue growing the OG Bubba because I could not tell the difference between the two(and I knew the source of the Oregon Afghani was legit). My friend who gave me the OG bubba swore that I mislabeled them, but I swore I did not.
To make sure they didn't get mixed up, again we got the Oregon Afghani clone from the source (old man hippy). Sure enough it was the same strain that I was familiarized with. hmmm... this is when I became suspicious (approx. 2002)
A number of years later I got back the "PRE98" OG Bubba from my friend who has been growing it since the first time I received the Bubba clone from him.
Conclusion;
After several grows, comparisons, and blind taste tests between friends we've all come to the conclusion that these are in fact the EXACT same genetics.
In the last year I have been seeding both the Ghanni and Bubba with the same males to see how similar the seeds are... You can't tell the difference.
It's kinda crazy... I feel like I just found out that Santa Clause was not real..
here are a few pics... I'll get some more evidence coming soon.
OREGON AFGHANI clone
old pic from years ago
Oregon Afghani recent pic from last spring
PRE98 BUBBA
recent pic from this summer
dna used a la afgani in there la con and i always said it was a bubba cross...is the la affie and oregon affie the same too ??
I would not be surprised bman.
They Can't pull fast ones over on weed detectives like us Bman..lol
I saw your Bubba that you recently grew and it also looked very much like this Afghani as well. Very nice smoke for sure.
I do know that quite a few people acquired this clone in 1998 after my friends dad got involved with the OMMP medical communities after Oregon became legal for medical cannabis. I'm sure it reached the cali dispensaries in a heartbeat.
Also,my friend that grows the Bubba, was gifted it from his friend in nor Cal and he brought it back to Oregon.
Interesting topic none the less. Lol
sounds like a good match to me....
i always thought bubba was a hippie trail find from an old worked ancestral line in the stans somewhere.... and i know im not alone on that one...
but the la affie aka bombay affie cut is real, my close friend was the one who sourced the cut for dna, and does look, smell, and grow simmilar to the bubba.....
i love it when things get all blunted sherlock holmes....
im still waiting on the cannabis history book BH, i know you would do us proud, and you have most of the chapters allready done....
Bubba is definitely from seed digger, but its considered a "clone only" strain.
My experience tells me Bubba is close to pure Afghan and not bubblegum x kush.
I've grown the original Indiana Bubblegum years ago and Bubba has absolutely no resemblance.
I guess the main reason I started this thread is to mythbust the bubba's far fetched story because this is in fact identical to the Oregon Afghan clone that has been around much longer than the "Bubba's" name.
Thanks for everyone's input, I think we're onto something.
After much contemplation of starting this thread(I have a feeling some Bubba lovers will be heartbroken), I decided to post it because I believe the PRE98 OG Bubba and Oregon Afghani are the same strain..
Please feel free to add any first hand information that you might have.
old hypothesis=
PRE98 Bubba is either an s1 or a clone of the Oregon Afghani clone that has been renamed (I personally think it's a renamed clone because they are exactly the same)
I'm not one for believing weed stories of clone only strains without proof, especially when I've seen first hand renaming in the Medical Dispensary era to try and gain sales with catchy names. I can't tell you how many strains I've come across that are the same as older cuts, but just have new names...
It's a pet-peeve of mine.... I think names should be kept the same for the integrity of cannabis' future...although, other people may believe in renaming strains to increase sales...
In the US people prefer to buy Kush over Afghani, it has been proven with dispensary sales.
My story;
In 1996 I was first introduced to the Oregon Afghani when a friend who I worked with turned me on to this strain. His father had this strain since late 1970s/early 80s. My friend claimed his Dad and hippy friends had acquired the afghani seeds while traveling on Dead tour in 1970s.
The dad and his friends always referred to this bud as Affy or Ghanni, never Afghani (at least back then). These guys grew the best weed I smoked at that point in time and really motivated me to step up my grows. After my first grow with her, I became uninterested in growing the Oregon Afghani due to it's super slow veg time because my grow situation at the time required faster vegging plants to keep the rotation on track.
After a number of years when my grow space increased, and I ended up acquiring the Oregon Afghani Clone as well as a strain called OG Bubba Kush from a different friend.
These strains were so similar that I opted to discontinue growing the OG Bubba because I could not tell the difference between the two(and I knew the source of the Oregon Afghani was legit). My friend who gave me the OG bubba swore that I mislabeled them, but I swore I did not.
To make sure they didn't get mixed up, again we got the Oregon Afghani clone from the source (old man hippy). Sure enough it was the same strain that I was familiarized with. hmmm... this is when I became suspicious (approx. 2002)
A number of years later I got back the "PRE98" OG Bubba from my friend who has been growing it since the first time I received the Bubba clone from him.
Conclusion;
After several grows, comparisons, and blind taste tests between friends we've all come to the conclusion that these are in fact the EXACT same genetics.
In the last year I have been seeding both the Ghanni and Bubba with the same males to see how similar the seeds are... You can't tell the difference.
It's kinda crazy... I feel like I just found out that Santa Clause was not real..
here are a few pics... I'll get some more evidence coming soon.
OREGON AFGHANI clone
old pic from years ago
Oregon Afghani recent pic from last spring
PRE98 BUBBA
recent pic from this summer
dna used a la afgani in there la con and i always said it was a bubba cross...is the la affie and oregon affie the same too ??
I would not be surprised bman.
They Can't pull fast ones over on weed detectives like us Bman..lol
I saw your Bubba that you recently grew and it also looked very much like this Afghani as well. Very nice smoke for sure.
I do know that quite a few people acquired this clone in 1998 after my friends dad got involved with the OMMP medical communities after Oregon became legal for medical cannabis. I'm sure it reached the cali dispensaries in a heartbeat.
Also,my friend that grows the Bubba, was gifted it from his friend in nor Cal and he brought it back to Oregon.
Interesting topic none the less. Lol
sounds like a good match to me....
i always thought bubba was a hippie trail find from an old worked ancestral line in the stans somewhere.... and i know im not alone on that one...
but the la affie aka bombay affie cut is real, my close friend was the one who sourced the cut for dna, and does look, smell, and grow simmilar to the bubba.....
i love it when things get all blunted sherlock holmes....
im still waiting on the cannabis history book BH, i know you would do us proud, and you have most of the chapters allready done....
Bubba is definitely from seed digger, but its considered a "clone only" strain.
My experience tells me Bubba is close to pure Afghan and not bubblegum x kush.
I've grown the original Indiana Bubblegum years ago and Bubba has absolutely no resemblance.
I guess the main reason I started this thread is to mythbust the bubba's far fetched story because this is in fact identical to the Oregon Afghan clone that has been around much longer than the "Bubba's" name.
Thanks for everyone's input, I think we're onto something.
tyke1973
Well-Known Member
The strains that you have put are all ok but make your first choice od seeds one that will not dissapoint,if the property is big enougth for you too get a room to keep a mother or mothers then do it it will save you money and the plant will produce better clones with age if kept right.I have tried 100''''''''''''''''''s of differant strains and seen 100's grown by friend's but i have just a few that i always come back to,here they are they will not dissapoint and can be got from attitude pick/mix section.10 Greenhouse seeds king kush,9 greenhouse the cheese,8 samsarah northern lights x ak47,7 bubble berry not sure of the breeder,6 chocalope.now come's the best 5 starins that i have seen and grown,4 blueberry dj shorts,3 greenhouse super silver haze,2 cannabis nl jack herer a true gem better than the origanal sensi seeds one,1 pyramid seeds tutancarmoon the don this plant is a joy to grow and the buds are heavy and dence,also trainwreck joint no 1 by greenhouse seeds.......................................tyke if i can help in the germanation inbox me peace stay green...............................
tyke1973
Well-Known Member
It can be a mine field now on the seed bank web sites,so always take into account that the grow room you are gonna grow in.Has i got the height for some of the big sativas or is it right for a sog of indicas, if i was just starting out and was looking for a strain it would have to be mostly sativa without a dought they produce and are far more easy to angle,Also the feed is more important that the choice of seed in my opinion go with advanced all the way this stuff is the best out ther no matter what any one says.sensi a and b veg and the same but bloom for flowering,superthrive for the vegging.Then you will need a packet of bud blood for week 1/2 then big bud for week 5 overdrive this sounds like alot of nutes but the od and the bb will last several grows so will the superthrive.Advanced products are all ph perfect so this takes away the hassle of ph'ing and doing the ppm's all though out of caution i still check every so often but it has never let me down yet.You will need to get a good reading of the water been used and take this into account,if u do decide to go with advanced then inbox me and i will give you the feeding scedule.When starting your first grow if you make the right decisions on feed and the right plant choice then belive me you are starting at a place where many take years to get to.Keep the lights close once the plants/seedling get going and you will produce a nice yeild and most of all it will bring the most joy to your face smokeing something that you have produced, your self good luck keep me posted even if you dont go with these strains i have put i will help you get the seeds going and help with nutes in boxe me.remember growing cannabis is not a matter of life or death it is far more important than that tyke.............................................................................................................................................................................
wyteberrywidow
Global
Thank you for that bit of knowledge.I thought you might all want to know this info.......
After much contemplation of starting this thread(I have a feeling some Bubba lovers will be heartbroken), I decided to post it because I believe the PRE98 OG Bubba and Oregon Afghani are the same strain..
Please feel free to add any first hand information that you might have.
old hypothesis=
PRE98 Bubba is either an s1 or a clone of the Oregon Afghani clone that has been renamed (I personally think it's a renamed clone because they are exactly the same)
I'm not one for believing weed stories of clone only strains without proof, especially when I've seen first hand renaming in the Medical Dispensary era to try and gain sales with catchy names. I can't tell you how many strains I've come across that are the same as older cuts, but just have new names...
It's a pet-peeve of mine.... I think names should be kept the same for the integrity of cannabis' future...although, other people may believe in renaming strains to increase sales...
In the US people prefer to buy Kush over Afghani, it has been proven with dispensary sales.
My story;
In 1996 I was first introduced to the Oregon Afghani when a friend who I worked with turned me on to this strain. His father had this strain since late 1970s/early 80s. My friend claimed his Dad and hippy friends had acquired the afghani seeds while traveling on Dead tour in 1970s.
The dad and his friends always referred to this bud as Affy or Ghanni, never Afghani (at least back then). These guys grew the best weed I smoked at that point in time and really motivated me to step up my grows. After my first grow with her, I became uninterested in growing the Oregon Afghani due to it's super slow veg time because my grow situation at the time required faster vegging plants to keep the rotation on track.
After a number of years when my grow space increased, and I ended up acquiring the Oregon Afghani Clone as well as a strain called OG Bubba Kush from a different friend.
These strains were so similar that I opted to discontinue growing the OG Bubba because I could not tell the difference between the two(and I knew the source of the Oregon Afghani was legit). My friend who gave me the OG bubba swore that I mislabeled them, but I swore I did not.
To make sure they didn't get mixed up, again we got the Oregon Afghani clone from the source (old man hippy). Sure enough it was the same strain that I was familiarized with. hmmm... this is when I became suspicious (approx. 2002)
A number of years later I got back the "PRE98" OG Bubba from my friend who has been growing it since the first time I received the Bubba clone from him.
Conclusion;
After several grows, comparisons, and blind taste tests between friends we've all come to the conclusion that these are in fact the EXACT same genetics.
In the last year I have been seeding both the Ghanni and Bubba with the same males to see how similar the seeds are... You can't tell the difference.
It's kinda crazy... I feel like I just found out that Santa Clause was not real..
here are a few pics... I'll get some more evidence coming soon.
OREGON AFGHANI clone
old pic from years ago
Oregon Afghani recent pic from last spring
PRE98 BUBBA
recent pic from this summer
dna used a la afgani in there la con and i always said it was a bubba cross...is the la affie and oregon affie the same too ??
I would not be surprised bman.
They Can't pull fast ones over on weed detectives like us Bman..lol
I saw your Bubba that you recently grew and it also looked very much like this Afghani as well. Very nice smoke for sure.
I do know that quite a few people acquired this clone in 1998 after my friends dad got involved with the OMMP medical communities after Oregon became legal for medical cannabis. I'm sure it reached the cali dispensaries in a heartbeat.
Also,my friend that grows the Bubba, was gifted it from his friend in nor Cal and he brought it back to Oregon.
Interesting topic none the less. Lol
sounds like a good match to me....
i always thought bubba was a hippie trail find from an old worked ancestral line in the stans somewhere.... and i know im not alone on that one...
but the la affie aka bombay affie cut is real, my close friend was the one who sourced the cut for dna, and does look, smell, and grow simmilar to the bubba.....
i love it when things get all blunted sherlock holmes....
im still waiting on the cannabis history book BH, i know you would do us proud, and you have most of the chapters allready done....
Bubba is definitely from seed digger, but its considered a "clone only" strain.
My experience tells me Bubba is close to pure Afghan and not bubblegum x kush.
I've grown the original Indiana Bubblegum years ago and Bubba has absolutely no resemblance.
I guess the main reason I started this thread is to mythbust the bubba's far fetched story because this is in fact identical to the Oregon Afghan clone that has been around much longer than the "Bubba's" name.
Thanks for everyone's input, I think we're onto something.
Im not heartbroken just upset ive been mislead but hey whatever.Ill grow some la con as well and see what i get..
wyteberrywidow
Global
but here is what i got from other growers who know more about it..
The Affie strain is an old killer afghan variety from Southern California with a fast and hard-knocking, but also psychedelic turn that had been around in L.A. for a long time, much sought after also for its extraordinarily sweet and soft flavour, but never available as seed or clone. The original plants were kept under lock and key by certain growers. A couple of years ago, they finally gave Don and Aaron (DNA Genetics) access to the Affie, however, only in the form of a female cutting.
The Affie strain is an old killer afghan variety from Southern California with a fast and hard-knocking, but also psychedelic turn that had been around in L.A. for a long time, much sought after also for its extraordinarily sweet and soft flavour, but never available as seed or clone. The original plants were kept under lock and key by certain growers. A couple of years ago, they finally gave Don and Aaron (DNA Genetics) access to the Affie, however, only in the form of a female cutting.
shishkaboy
Well-Known Member
its real i just think it came from oregon first and was renamed in cali. my boy has some la conf right now looks just like one of ur plants i think it was the bubba(the last one i commented on in ur journal)
amazingeviltom
Member
I have been told off a close friend that SweetSpeed Devil is a good AF and it not only grows fast but produces a good smoke with pleanty of resinous buds. The stone is a couch lock indica type stone. Dont expect huge yeilds but some people are good with AF, can also try Stenkraft HammerHead F1 Hybrids. I have been told they are good, but they have more of a sativa dominent stone as they are an F1 of Kandy Kush and Arjans Haze#1.
wyteberrywidow
Global
very interesting..lmao