New way of growing. No electricity. Stealth.

NewSchoolgrower said:
555 nm... But red light has the most photons.
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It's not about what has the most photons, visibility is determined by how well the cones in your eyes pick up photons of a specific frequency. IR and UV are made up of photons as well, and no matter how much IR radiation is present in an area, you still can't "see" them without some kind of an instrument designed to convert them to something you can actually see.
 
NewSchoolgrower said:
Sorry..i meant the energy of a red light photon is the highest...
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That would actually be the blue spectrum, hence why coral use primarily actinic bulbs. The tighter the wavelength, the more energy required to sustain it. That's why deep water coral tanks use blue spectrum bulbs, the blue spectrum is the only one with enough energy to penetrate that deep into the ocean.
 
Energy of a photon is directly proportional to its frequency. The frequency of a blue photon is greater than that of a red photon. That makes the blue photon more energetic.



Your right again lol...show off..Haha.. Im way out of my league lol.. Much reading to do today lol
 
NewSchoolgrower said:
Energy of a photon is directly proportional to its frequency. The frequency of a blue photon is greater than that of a red photon. That makes the blue photon more energetic.



Your right again lol...show off..Haha.. Im way out of my league lol.. Much reading to do today lol
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This is one of those hobbies that encourages a surprising amount of learning. You'd be surprised by the collective knowledge of the stoners floating around here; there's some very intelligent people hanging about if you can catch them at the right moment. lol
 
Oh no doubt. I know there's many intelligent people floating around here. I wasn't being seriouswhen i said you guys were idiots lol. I was just frustrated lol.. I still think there is a slight possibility of my idea working lol.. Im definitely admitting its not as straight forward as I fist thought though. At least you had an explanation of why it wouldn't work lol..I'll definitely be reading up on quantum physics and the physics of light for the next week or so lol.. I look forward to seeing u on the forums man..your a smart guy..
 
Even if the lighting was adequate, growing plants in a wet earthy pit would never work. Unless you build a water tight structure (which is hard to do fully underground) and had some serious air exchange, that shit would turn into a compost pile in no time at all. Theres no tweaking of the engineering or whatever you said that could get around that.
 
NewSchoolgrower said:
Oh no doubt. I know there's many intelligent people floating around here. I wasn't being seriouswhen i said you guys were idiots lol. I was just frustrated lol.. I still think there is a slight possibility of my idea working lol.. Im definitely admitting its not as straight forward as I fist thought though. At least you had an explanation of why it wouldn't work lol..I'll definitely be reading up on quantum physics and the physics of light for the next week or so lol.. I look forward to seeing u on the forums man..your a smart guy..
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No offense taken, it's the internet; people tend to react a bit more than they would elsewhere, myself included. Your idea would work for growing, in theory; I just wouldn't expect nearly the efficiency you were talking about before. Camouflaging your normal grow would likely be more effective and yield better.
 
why put it in a hole? i could imagine you could use a shed or something. and not only have the fancy bottles on the roof but also on all sides.
 
The whole point is stealth. A shed would work but isn't as stealthy. But ya the roof and the east and west walls covered with bottles is a good idea.
 
The hole wouldn't be much at only 4.5ft deep. A simple vapor barrier and wood frame would work to keep excessive moisture out. Ventilation could be done using a plastic pipe buried underground. I don't think ventilation would be too big a factor considering the hole is only 4.5 feet deep with a loose fitting cover. Not airtight at all.

Man went to the moon. I can engineer a solution to the ventilation problems lol.
 
NewSchoolgrower said:
The hole wouldn't be much at only 4.5ft deep. A simple vapor barrier and wood frame would work to keep excessive moisture out. Ventilation could be done using a plastic pipe buried underground. I don't think ventilation would be too big a factor considering the hole is only 4.5 feet deep with a loose fitting cover. Not airtight at all.

Man went to the moon. I can engineer a solution to the ventilation problems lol.
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Keep in mind that the best survival method to find water in the desert is to put a tarp over a hole, there's a lot of residual moisture in the ground, I'd bet that you risk a lot of condensation at night.
 
That's because the heat creates condensation that can't escape. It wouldnt be airtight so that wouldn't occur. The lights produce little heat because they are filled with water. I have to build a prototype and test it out this May. Maybe I'll use tomatoes or something so I can experiment openly and thus hopefully get better results in my experiments. The plants will grow. Yield is what Im curious about.
 
NewSchoolgrower said:
That's because the heat creates condensation that can't escape. It wouldnt be airtight so that wouldn't occur. The lights produce little heat because they are filled with water. I have to build a prototype and test it out this May. Maybe I'll use tomatoes or something so I can experiment openly and thus hopefully get better results in my experiments. The plants will grow. Yield is what Im curious about.
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The lights would retain a lot of heat. Water is an amazing heat sink. A bottle of water is going to stay warm for a good while after the sun has gone down. Not to mention the rather conspicuous nature of a bunch of soda bottles sunk into the ground.
 
Your right though, it has to be efficient to avoid being counterproductive. The fact that it produces bud does not make it practical and does not determine success. It has to not only work but work good.
 
Your saying condensation would build up on the bottles and drip down? If so no harm done. If anything the secret would be blown when your neighbours seen u slide the cover off your hole lol.. Plus you couldn't slide it either because the bottles would be partially beneath the dirt line so it would have to lifted and all those bottles full of water would be heavy. Lets say 30 bottles. Thats 60 litres plus the weight of the wood cover/trap door... Its not practical.

Im leaning towards abandoning the hole idea in favor of a shed.

U could still build and bury a structure and make it work underground though. It just requires some thought.
 
I guess smell is what gets u busted anyways... The " solar hole" could have no odor control unless it was 100% airtight. So odor control would be borderline impossible.

The shed is the way to go. Build a shed out of wood frame and corrugated steel. Make as airtight as you can using vapor barrier. Airtight = neg pressure. Ventillate out appropriate sized carbon filter. Incorporate as many solar bottles as you can in your design. Roof, east and west walls. Try and hide the view of the bottles from people standing ground level. To do this maybe build an overhang or a lip around the edge of the roof. Do whatever works to obstruct the view of the bottles.
 
Excuse me if this question comes from my lack of knowledge, but this was done in a country at roughly equator level, wouldn't that mean that these bulbs in US for example would have a lower watt or lumen output than in Brazil?

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NewSchoolgrower said:
Im leaning towards abandoning the hole idea in favor of a shed.
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Do you seriously mean that you still haven't disregarded the idea of using these for growing weed? Sorry for the harshness, but if you're not a troll, you are one of the most retarded persons I've ever seen.

"The moment we want to believe something, we suddenly see all the arguments for it, and become blind to the arguments against it."
 
The fact still remains that people do and have grown vegetables this way. So it works and that's all there is to it. You ppl are retarded because its currently being done as we speak and works
 
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