new ways to rid of paper currency

leeny

leeny

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so today I suggested to a group that perhaps we could come up with a way that a barter system in America could work... I was immediately attacked. and I am saying like TODAY, from now on, with all our possessions, all we can do is barter. it would be difficult and so on but point is I was trying to get the ball rolling on how the world could find a different method than using money. tell me what yall think. (and when exactly is this section going to be closed?) feel free to let this thread die if need be. :peace:
 
MexicanWarlord420

MexicanWarlord420

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leeny said:
so today I suggested to a group that perhaps we could come up with a way that a barter system in America could work... I was immediately attacked. and I am saying like TODAY, from now on, with all our possessions, all we can do is barter. it would be difficult and so on but point is I was trying to get the ball rolling on how the world could find a different method than using money. tell me what yall think. (and when exactly is this section going to be closed?) feel free to let this thread die if need be. :peace:
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Precious metals would become the new money,
 
KaleoXxX

KaleoXxX

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i would have more value than i do now. maybe ill go wipe my ass with a dollar if the whole country is going to start bartering, lol.
 
fitch303

fitch303

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I hope inflation keeps going up so I can repay my debt with cheaper dollars, TAKE THAT BANKERS!!
 
hom36rown

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fitch303 said:
I hope inflation keeps going up so I can repay my debt with cheaper dollars, TAKE THAT BANKERS!!
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Unfortunately, wages will not even come close to keeping up with rising prices. So you will make the same money...owe the same debt...and have to pay more for what you have to buy. So, inflation will make it harder for you to pay your debt.
 
fitch303

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hom36rown said:
Unfortunately, wages will not even come close to keeping up with rising prices. So you will make the same money...owe the same debt...and have to pay more for what you have to buy. So, inflation will make it harder for you to pay your debt.
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Speak for yourself, my wages are not stagnate. Point taken though
 
Dfunk

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In my opinion the only way to truly remove paper money from your day to day life is to begin producing EVERYTHING you need or just produce some of what you need & network with others in your area to get things you are unable to produce from them in exchange for things you can produce. It's hard work living free & independent, but it is possible. Even with this system you will still have to obtain land somehow which will be difficult when you consider the U.S. government has pretty much laid claim to all land.
 
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Keenly

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hey while were at completely undermining our nations only form of currency


why dont we just get RFID chips implanted in us so we can have a cashless society

you know the kind where all you have to do to pay for something is wave your arm in front of a machine


is this what you want?

i dont think you understand how cash is staple point in freedom

your credit card doesnt work? just pay in cash (no paper trail either)

your RFID chip doesnt work? now you cant buy anything ever again
 
leeny

leeny

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Keenly said:
hey while were at completely undermining our nations only form of currency


why dont we just get RFID chips implanted in us so we can have a cashless society

you know the kind where all you have to do to pay for something is wave your arm in front of a machine


is this what you want?

i dont think you understand how cash is staple point in freedom

your credit card doesnt work? just pay in cash (no paper trail either)

your RFID chip doesnt work? now you cant buy anything ever again
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I'm not sure you understand my point. and if you've got a chip in your arm it's (to me) the same as cash. and that's what I want to get rid of. I just want the 'currency' whatever it may be, to be worth something. it's not worth gold, or anything right now.... so why are we trading paper. (it's a note saying you did so much which means you can get ___ . I know let's skip that explination)

I think you just bashed me....:o.... why? lol
 
what... huh?

what... huh?

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MexicanWarlord420 said:
Precious metals would become the new money,
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Gold holds no more intrinsic value than paper money unless you make superconductors, which I expect wouldn't have a large market share under total collapse... which is what would happen once we cut off trade to all other nations. We have little manufacturing capability at this point. Isolationism doesn't work.


Food is money.
Grow food.

Medicine is money.
Grow medicine.

Ammunition is money.
Make ammunition.


You think I am trading food for my family for a shiny yellow rock?

There is nothing precious about gold. Every one of us has some. There is probably some in your computer. Argon is more precious than gold. Not trading that for food either.
 
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NoDrama

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what... huh? said:
Gold holds no more intrinsic value than paper money unless you make superconductors, which I expect wouldn't have a large market share under total collapse... which is what would happen once we cut off trade to all other nations. We have little manufacturing capability at this point. Isolationism doesn't work.


Food is money.
Grow food.

Medicine is money.
Grow medicine.

Ammunition is money.
Make ammunition.


You think I am trading food for my family for a shiny yellow rock?

There is nothing precious about gold. Every one of us has some. There is probably some in your computer. Argon is more precious than gold. Not trading that for food either.
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Gold IS money, its used primarily as MONEY the world round. to you it may have no value as it is only a shiny metal, but you would be in a very small minority. When all is said and done, gold ( And Silver, which is many many times more useful than gold) is the only asset which has no counterparty risk, no debt and no claim made against it, it is not a promise to pay, it has held its value for thousands of years and is the ultimate hedge and the ultimate store of wealth. IF, IF the US dollar were to collapse you would find precious metals would be one certain way to purchase almost anything you wanted or needed. Not everyone has the right capital for which to barter for other capital, but Gold is internationally revered as MONEY and can be traded for nearly anything.
 
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Keenly

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leeny said:
I think you just bashed me....:o.... why? lol
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a) was not fully awake yet

B) because if we switched to your barter idea

i would instantly be poor beyond all recognition

as i dont have much


please dont take it personally :leaf:
 
leeny

leeny

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what... huh? said:
Gold holds no more intrinsic value than paper money unless you make superconductors, which I expect wouldn't have a large market share under total collapse... which is what would happen once we cut off trade to all other nations. We have little manufacturing capability at this point. Isolationism doesn't work.


Food is money.
Grow food.

Medicine is money.
Grow medicine.

Ammunition is money.
Make ammunition.


You think I am trading food for my family for a shiny yellow rock?

There is nothing precious about gold. Every one of us has some. There is probably some in your computer. Argon is more precious than gold. Not trading that for food either.
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good point... why is gold so precious anyway? it's shiney, and there's a limited amount, and..... it's a soft metal? I'm not sure. we NEED food, water, shelter, and clothing.... who wants to trade!!! lol I'm just playing.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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Gold historically has held value. This implies it will always have value. It doesn't mean it 100% always will. All in all, it's much safer than other forms of "money", especially during inflation. It could be supplanted, but indications are not anytime soon.

Being able to barter is never a bad thing though. Acquiring "real" skills would come in handy too. For instance being able to physically do things that meet your basic needs will always come in handy. Owning tools and knowing how to use them can never hurt. A network of friends that can rely on you and vice versa is valuable, be good to your neighbors.

Removing cash is one the final steps to the total big brother world though. It will happen and it won't be good.
 
Dahmer8afew

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Wanna know what the most valuable thing on Earth would be if all currency were removed and the only way to get that Bentley is to trade for it????


PUSSY would be the #1 commodity on Earth!! If it isn't already!! HAHA!!
 
AquafinaOrbit

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Craigslist has a bartering system. It's a useful concept but most people try to just sell their items for cash because it's a lot harder to find someone that has exactly what they need, where having cash can mean they can go into any store and just purchase it.
 
Dahmer8afew

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You might think I'm crazy but I'm telling you that if we went to a non-monetary system and everything was obtained through trade, only the men with the most highly sought after things would have the attractive women. Any dude not within the top 1% of having nice shit is either gonna be strokin the baloney pony or doing some serious spelunking with some heavies.
 
Dahmer8afew

Dahmer8afew

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The concept of monogamy as we know it today would shatter. Imagine bartering your wife's treasured bum for a night so you can get a generator from the engineer who built it.
 
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