bobbyboy34
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i didn't say that nibiru is being attracted by our suns gravity, where did you get that from? from reading something stoney face said? cause bobby face didn't say that
Nibiru / Eros / Planet X
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i didn't say that nibiru is being attracted by our suns gravity, where did you get that from? from reading something stoney face said? cause bobby face didn't say that
Philly_Buddah
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It was actually many other ppl and civilizations also, not just the Maya and Nostradamus. There has to be some very large significance to that date. Its hard to believe its only 4 years away now. Oh well, what happens, happens. Hopefully its for the good, and if its for the bad I doubt theres much we can do about it. So Ill stay as prepared as I can mentally but just go on with my life as always.
bobbyboy34
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i did not say you specifically are a hookey youtubian
i have posted videos, i just mad ea mistake with the first couple post about that planet, sorry sheesh
Stoney McFried
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I don';t know what I'm supposed to say.Dark wobble?Divine cross?The planets have a bit of a wobble anyway...it's because they are being tugged on by the sun and other planets,back and forth.Everything in the universe lined up?That's not even likely.Also, Nostradamus DID NOT predict 2012 as the end of the earth.First, he was an astrologer, not an astronomer.Second, his predictions, or quatrains, are worded so vaguely, they can apply to any number of things.I knew he predicted the world would end in three thousand something, but wasn't sure, so I looked, and it says 3797.That's way off from 2012.Hope that answers your questions.
bobbyboy34
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i like you NEW sig rather than the old stoney face
techgrower
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Sorry Bobbyboy no hert feelings ment, and I believe it was utubian kook, but this is just a discussion on what we think and stuff. This has interested me for a few years now and you seemed like you were going to be making a journal of sorts and was just wondering why you kinda dropped off. Also thanks Philly B. Someone said it was in the Koran (spelling?) the same date but just talked to an older muslim about the date and he said it wasnt in there. Who elce said it Philly B.? Also thanks Stoney for chiming in! I think I ment the dark rift. The earth is going through this soon and at that time the sun will align the center of the galaxy. Here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbpER_qKkcI
This explains the crosses and nostradamus I guess theory. But then again I guess I might be kooky, LOL peeps!
This explains the crosses and nostradamus I guess theory. But then again I guess I might be kooky, LOL peeps!
bobbyboy34
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i still plan on doing this, its just that this past week and a half has been crazy. I have had hardly any time to do anything and come year end things get really busy and crazy. I will definitely add things here and there, stay tuned
Stoney McFried
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Yeah, someone I am friends with on here said it bothers them, so I changed it for them.
quote=techgrower;1756408]Sorry Bobbyboy no hert feelings ment, and I believe it was utubian kook, but this is just a discussion on what we think and stuff. This has interested me for a few years now and you seemed like you were going to be making a journal of sorts and was just wondering why you kinda dropped off. Also thanks Philly B. Someone said it was in the Koran (spelling?) the same date but just talked to an older muslim about the date and he said it wasnt in there. Who elce said it Philly B.? Also thanks Stoney for chiming in! I think I ment the dark rift. The earth is going through this soon and at that time the sun will align the center of the galaxy. Here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbpER_qKkcI
This explains the crosses and nostradamus I guess theory. But then again I guess I might be kooky, LOL peeps![/quote]
I'll look at that in a while.The sun aligning with the center of the galaxy....isn't it always kinda aligned with the center?I mean, look at the galaxy.It rotates like a wheel.The center would be the hub,and the spokes and wheel would be the matter out side that.Since it all rotates around the hub, it's always aligned with the center.
quote=techgrower;1756408]Sorry Bobbyboy no hert feelings ment, and I believe it was utubian kook, but this is just a discussion on what we think and stuff. This has interested me for a few years now and you seemed like you were going to be making a journal of sorts and was just wondering why you kinda dropped off. Also thanks Philly B. Someone said it was in the Koran (spelling?) the same date but just talked to an older muslim about the date and he said it wasnt in there. Who elce said it Philly B.? Also thanks Stoney for chiming in! I think I ment the dark rift. The earth is going through this soon and at that time the sun will align the center of the galaxy. Here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbpER_qKkcI
This explains the crosses and nostradamus I guess theory. But then again I guess I might be kooky, LOL peeps![/quote]
Stoney McFried
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We are a spiral galaxy.We rotate pretty uniformly,we don't have as much random motion.Planets are in elliptical orbits, not the spiral arms.It's kinda like a whirlpool.But the rotation is always AROUND the center.We're always the same distance from the center.Some times we are below or above the orbital plane a little, like horses on a carousel, but we're pretty much fixed in our position in relation to distance from the center.Nature - Rotation/Angular Momentum: The rotational characteristics of Spiral & Elliptical galaxies are different as shown below; Spiral galaxy disks have well organized rotational dtructure whereas elliptical galaxies have random orbits. A rotating cloud of protogalactic gas would certainly contract more slowly than one without rotation and could only contract along the rotation axes, forming a disk as we see in spiral galaxies. It is plausible to suppose that a non-rotating, freely collapsing protogalaxy would reach higher densities at earlier times, using up its gas rapidly in a time of order a billion years. As the rotating protogalaxy contracts more slowly to a disk shape, it would not reach such high densities, star-formation would proceed more slowly, preserving gas for future epochs of star formation
Circular Orbits in a Spiral Disk
Random Orbits in an Elliptical
(or Spiral Bulge)
(or Spiral Bulge)
Stoney McFried
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And here's the source for that illustration....http://cass.ucsd.edu/public/tutorial/Galaxies.html
Well, I'm not sure I understand how another planet, larger than Jupiter, could come into our system without being attracted by the Sun's gravity, even if it is orbiting some remote object. I was under the impression that all objects attract all other objects, gravitationally speaking. Could you please explain how the orbit could come so close to the Sun without being attracted by it?
(By the way, Mars is actually the fourth planet out Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, etc)
I'm also finding some conflicting information on the internet. For example, www.crystalinks.com/nibiru.html and http://2012wiki.com/index.php?title=Nibiru claims that it is in orbit around our Sun. It would make more sense that way.
I'm not sure what the crossing of the orbital plane (the 'carousel effect' from Stoney's previous post and 'The Dark Rift' from BobbyBoy's) but I have a couple of questions there, too. (Sorry if I'm off topic).
From the Dark Rift video:
Secondly, Im not aware of a mass extinction occurring as early as 26,000 years ago that wiped out almost every living thing on our planet. There was an extinction at the end of the Eocene where around 15% of life went extinct but the last mass extinction was 65 million years ago.
From the Dark Rift video:
In the first part, they say:
Once upon a time
(26,000 years ago) our planet embarked on a very destructive journey through the central gravitational plane of our galaxy.
THE DARK RIFT
During this journey, planet earth suffered servere (sic) damage due to collisions with space debris left over from the formation of the planets. Earth also suffered from major surface damage due to a change of gravitional (sic) axis A POLE SHIFT! This event wiped out almost every living thing on our planet.
Im assuming the change in gravitational plane that they refer to is the carousel effect described in Stoneys previous post. I dont know what they mean by pole shift, then. They may have confused a few things. Does anyone know what they mean by pole shift?THE DARK RIFT
During this journey, planet earth suffered servere (sic) damage due to collisions with space debris left over from the formation of the planets. Earth also suffered from major surface damage due to a change of gravitional (sic) axis A POLE SHIFT! This event wiped out almost every living thing on our planet.
Secondly, Im not aware of a mass extinction occurring as early as 26,000 years ago that wiped out almost every living thing on our planet. There was an extinction at the end of the Eocene where around 15% of life went extinct but the last mass extinction was 65 million years ago.
Stoney McFried
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Sorry.To clarify, I was trying to explain that our planet isn't going to magically align with the center of the galaxy...it pretty much already is.It travels with the solar system,sometimes up, sometimes down, but always roughly the same distance from the center.
Yeah, it seems like the alignment with the orbital plane is another thing: the Dark Rift. Ooga Booga, to coin a phrase.
As near as I can figure, the other alignment thing has to do with the galactic center as the far point, the Earth as another point, and the Sun. I think that happens every year (as I think you pointed out in a previous post). However, it sounds like the other added component is the precession. I don't know how you can define why that particular spot in the precession is special, though.
I don't know how any of that has to do with Nibiru, though. There's been a lot of talk of that stuff on this thread, too. Which is fine ... I'm just waiting to hear how it all correlates.
Stoney McFried
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I'm just trying to argue the science of why this isn't happening.Sometimes I don't explain it very succinctly, lol.
Yeah, it seems like the alignment with the orbital plane is another thing: the Dark Rift. Ooga Booga, to coin a phrase.
As near as I can figure, the other alignment thing has to do with the galactic center as the far point, the Earth as another point, and the Sun. I think that happens every year (as I think you pointed out in a previous post). However, it sounds like the other added component is the precession. I don't know how you can define why that particular spot in the precession is special, though.
I don't know how any of that has to do with Nibiru, though. There's been a lot of talk of that stuff on this thread, too. Which is fine ... I'm just waiting to hear how it all correlates.
I'm trying to give this stuff the benefit of the doubt because I find that I'm too often too narrow minded. However, I come from a space science background and while this stuff is very cool, I find it hard to believe. I just can't find any semblance of reality in this.
Maybe my problem is that for stuff that's this far out there ... I'm not going to find any rational explanation... I dunno. I don't want to seem like I'm attacking anyone. I don't want to criticize anyone's belief system. Then again, maybe I should, I dunno.
I just wish there were some rebuttal or defense against some of the science that's been presented against Nibiru instead of just some offhanded comments. I guess I'm waiting for "here's the orbital parameters ", "this is why we can't see it", "here's why it's moving so fast", etc. I mean don't you feel like the responses have been a little ... dogmatic ... and dismissive?
It's one thing to say I'm wrong ... it's another to prove I'm wrong.
Will I never get what I'm looking for and should I just let everyone have their fun? Just say, 'Stay off my cloud, man'. I don't want to rain on anyone's parade. Then, again, I'm not ready to drink the kool-aid, either.
Be cool ... roast one.
Maybe my problem is that for stuff that's this far out there ... I'm not going to find any rational explanation... I dunno. I don't want to seem like I'm attacking anyone. I don't want to criticize anyone's belief system. Then again, maybe I should, I dunno.
I just wish there were some rebuttal or defense against some of the science that's been presented against Nibiru instead of just some offhanded comments. I guess I'm waiting for "here's the orbital parameters ", "this is why we can't see it", "here's why it's moving so fast", etc. I mean don't you feel like the responses have been a little ... dogmatic ... and dismissive?
It's one thing to say I'm wrong ... it's another to prove I'm wrong.
Will I never get what I'm looking for and should I just let everyone have their fun? Just say, 'Stay off my cloud, man'. I don't want to rain on anyone's parade. Then, again, I'm not ready to drink the kool-aid, either.
Be cool ... roast one.
Dfunk
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It's simply a fascinating concept to people in my opinion. No one knows & if they do they're not gonna tell you or me. As far as that alignment 2012 thing...this is what I think - the mayans or whoever watched the night & what they saw for coming for 2012 was a change in that night sky, The Heavens so to speak. That's all it is I think. Anyone catch that cresent moon/jupiter/venus alignment recently?
bobbyboy34
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http://churchofcriticalthinking.org/planetx.html
some good info to read which may help some understand the concept a bit more
some good info to read which may help some understand the concept a bit more
apostle in triumph
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ive been reading through google scholar
on the properties of marijuana. in this article states (through injestion) place 1 gram of your fav bud in vodka or barcardi 151 cover with plastic thc disloves in alcohol solution!!!(only drinkable alcohol)!!!!!we have to drink it!!! it the solution or tincture
tetrahydracannibinol-thc- offers properties
such as antineoplastic (tumors) neruroprotection (increases motor function's)
all forms of living plants,herbs,fruits,vegtables have these effects