Nirvana trust rating

GrassBurner said:
Spend your money how you want. Why would I send money overseas, wait a month, and hope I get fire, when this comes in 3 days, for free?
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I mean I commend you on the plant you're growing but does that picture prove anything? My entire point is great genetics can come from anywhere and my alternative suggestion is to try some cheaper seeds, dial in your growing skills and if you want to invest in to some better genetics go ahead.
 
SomethingToDo said:
I mean I commend you on the plant you're growing but does that picture prove anything? My entire point is great genetics can come from anywhere and my alternative suggestion is to try some cheaper seeds, dial in your growing skills and if you want to invest in to some better genetics go ahead.
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Most people don't want to wait over a month for seeds from Europe and if you are basing it off of price you can easily find cheap american breeders that breed and have strains just as good if not better than Nirvana. Newbies nowadays have a wealth of information online to help them grow and it's really not hard to get a decent first grow, no need to handicap yourself with boring strains. I've grown Nirvanas seeds. Aurora indica and white widow. They aren't bad but I'll always recommend american genetics because they are easier to get and tend to be better than euro genetics.
 
SomethingToDo said:
I mean I commend you on the plant you're growing but does that picture prove anything? My entire point is great genetics can come from anywhere and my alternative suggestion is to try some cheaper seeds, dial in your growing skills and if you want to invest in to some better genetics go ahead.
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Some of the highly acclaimed euro strains have changed over the years, the original breeding plants lost, and attempts to recreate the strains have not lived up to expectation. Many Euro breeders buy mass produced seeds made in Spain, again raising question to the quality. Many euro breeders mislead buyers, using names that are similar to the USA hype strains. These are but a few examples, and I could go on, but it is all on here for you to find. You're a new member, stick around and you'll find that this place has a plethora of information.
 
dubekoms said:
Most people don't want to wait over a month for seeds from Europe and if you are basing it off of price you can easily find cheap american breeders that breed and have strains just as good if not better than Nirvana. Newbies nowadays have a wealth of information online to help them grow and it's really not hard to get a decent first grow, no need to handicap yourself with boring strains. I've grown Nirvanas seeds. Aurora indica and white widow. They aren't bad but I'll always recommend american genetics because they are easier to get and tend to be better than euro genetics.
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I don't see how you can say they're better though? I mean what is that based on exactly? I've grown a lot of Nirvana strains as well over the years, White Rhino, White Widow, Northern Lights, AK48, and one other I can't remember. I've had some great plants from those packs of seeds in particular the White Rhino, I had an amazing cut that I lost. I also ran a lot of Mandala genetics which gave me some great plants. I agree there is a lot of information and having a good first grow is possible but I don't see the genetics as the handicap. I personally like being able to look at grow reports of certain breeders and smoke reports. I don't see a lot of those for American breeders and a lot of the breeders are just shitting out crosses left and right. Either way if you're a first time grower I am positive any cannabis you get will feel special. The day the drying is done, you test some of the herb, and know you grew it is far more powerful than where the genetics came from. Eventually I will grab some genetics from US breeders and I can see for myself how they stack up.
 
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coppershot said:
Some of the highly acclaimed euro strains have changed over the years, the original breeding plants lost, and attempts to recreate the strains have not lived up to expectation. Many Euro breeders buy mass produced seeds made in Spain, again raising question to the quality. Many euro breeders mislead buyers, using names that are similar to the USA hype strains. These are but a few examples, and I could go on, but it is all on here for you to find. You're a new member, stick around and you'll find that this place has a plethora of information.
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I might be new to this forum but I've been on grow forums for nearly 20 years. My contention is that you can find good cannabis genetics wherever you go. It's why I follow guys like Kevin Jodrey who are trying to bring back genetics from the 70's/80's before the genetics got pigeon holed into a specific set of terpene profiles. Now we're sitting in an era where everything is literally a cross of an OG Kush with a sativa dominant hybrid. For a new grower anything they grow is going to get them high and it's going to be a great experience. If you've been growing for a long time I can see why you might put more emphasis on the breeder you're getting genetics from but ultimately they're all pretty similar. I mean I've seen some amazing plants out in Spain and I don't see what evidence you've provided saying they're lower quality? You act like it's impossible for a European breeder to get clones of genetics in the US and breed with them.
 
*never used nirvana, but heard good things*

When reading reviews on trust pilot, beware of reviewers with dozens of 5 star reviews copied and pasted every couple days. You can flag them, but trust pilot doesn't seem to delete these spammers.

A different seedbank (a huge one) has tons of fake reviews, almost half it seems like....

Any seedbank with 10% 1 star reviews should be a red flag imho.
reviews about things getting seized are to be expected, but reviews with complaints about never getting a tracking #??
 
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buyer beware
the marketing department realized one day there is a ton of cash to be made on suckers

human condition means you'll prolly follow others advice...so be warned when some people appear to be a cheer leader. however some people do document their grows and it can lend credence to the breeder. however quality is truly speculation online, you can say you got high, but you might have a lower tolerance then me, so who's to say its good or bad.

taste as many strains as you can before you die, thats my method
 
Nirvana is a great choice for a newbie to order from. Show me one American breeder that sells quality, decent seeds for the same price as Nirvana. The reason they don't is because for now, they can profit off of the fact that they are domestic and their seeds don't go through customs, that adds an automatic premium on the price. There are top quality genetics in both Europe and the USA, I just refuse to be ripped off by unscrupulous seed companies profiting off of this temporary situation.
 
Americans need to keep their hype up for otherwise no one would buy their 300 dollar cookies. There are some great breeders in Europe that have real fire but none of that hype. Not all americans are greedy though. I would recommend Hazeman. Just a notch above Nirvana in the price range. He will send you his list if you contact him direct. As for Nirvana, I might just need to stroll down memory lane for that K2 Anniversary after reading this.
 
U79 said:
Americans need to keep their hype up for otherwise no one would buy their 300 dollar cookies. There are some great breeders in Europe that have real fire but none of that hype. Not all americans are greedy though. I would recommend Hazeman. Just a notch above Nirvana in the price range. He will send you his list if you contact him direct. As for Nirvana, I might just need to stroll down memory lane for that K2 Anniversary after reading this.
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$300 for a seed pack based on hype started in Europe though. In 2003 my buddy bought a 10pk of regular jack herer seeds from Sensi seed bank for $360 and a pack of The Hog by THseeds for $280. Both were hightimes cannabis cup "winners" and all hype. I mean the jack is a classic but hog not so much.

Hype sells regardless of geographical location.
 
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