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because by your own words, you say the holocaust did not happen at all, and that israel should be obliterated.

how do you propose we go about having a civil debate about how some of my family should be obliterated and the rest are lying about how our elders died?

there is no way to have a civil conversation when you start from the position you are starting.

the worst part is how you are trying to weasel away from those statements you made and which i saved, in full context.

you disgust me.

Have you even read? Go back and read post #18 and then come back....
It's simple. You don't even have a dozen people all shouting trying to distract you from the points and argument...
Or is that your only strategy?
 
Have you even read? Go back and read post #18 and then come back....

great, a bunch of lies that are contradicted by previous things you said when you thought less people were looking. awesome. good for you.

why do you want some of my family dead and think the rest are liars?
 
great, a bunch of lies that are contradicted by previous things you said when you thought less people were looking. awesome. good for you.

why do you want some of my family dead and think the rest are liars?

Do I still beat my wife? Nice try...

Ask a real question, preferably one that's not so obviously loaded, then I might fall for it. Ask a good one because this might be your only chance.

Or why not answer the bolded question in post #19? It was your turn to answer anyway...
 
While I'm waiting for you to reply, I will ask you when I EVER made comments about wanting some of your family dead and thinking the rest were liars? This is you, VERY blatantly, attempting to put words in my mouth. Is this evidence of a disintegrating argument on your side?
 
While I'm waiting for you to reply, I will ask you when I EVER made comments about wanting some of your family dead

you said you want to israel obliterated. i have family in israel.

and thinking the rest were liars?

my wife's family has this notion that is documented through historical records that some of them died in the holocaust. you said about the holocaust, and i quote, that "I don't believe it happened at all".

This is you, VERY blatantly, attempting to put words in my mouth.

no it isn't. i used your direct quotes.

Is this evidence of a disintegrating argument on your side?

no, this is evidence of you trying to weasel out of things you said in the past.
 
*I'm taking screen shots incase anyone decides to edit (or delete) my posts again. Just FYI.

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you said you want to israel obliterated. i have family in israel. You still must not have read my earlier posts.

my wife's family has this notion that is documented through historical records that some of them died in the holocaust. you said about the holocaust, and i quote, that "I don't believe it happened at all". Yes, at this point in time I do not believe there were mass gassings (as that was what the quote was pertaining to). I never disputed the fact that people "died in [meaning "during"] the holocaust [timeperiod]". If you'll allow me to continue doing research and discussing the arguments... maybe my view will change when presented with new information or some of the revisionist information is shown to be discredited. Bullying, harassing, and dragging my name through the mud is not going to change my mind or threaten my intellectual honesty.
 
You still must not have read my earlier posts.

i'm not interested in watching you back pedal and try to revise your earlier, very clear statements about wanting to see israel obliterated, or "fuck jewish culture", or anything else you said back then.

i have a memory, don't try to insult me.

I never disputed the fact that people "died in the holocaust".

your very own words, and i quote verbatim: "i don't believe it happened at all".

again, i have a memory and your exact words. stop trying to fix the stupid things you said previously.
 
i'm not interested in watching you back pedal and try to revise your earlier, very clear statements about wanting to see israel obliterated, or "fuck jewish culture", or anything else you said back then.

i have a memory, don't try to insult me.



your very own words, and i quote verbatim: "i don't believe it happened at all".

again, i have a memory and your exact words. stop trying to fix the stupid things you said previously.

Back pedal? You mean back pedal to the post where I answered your questions?

I didn't deny saying the bolded above, but I did put it in context. #27
 
Back pedal? You mean back pedal to the post where I answered your questions?

I didn't deny saying the bolded above, but I did put it in context. #27

i asked those questions to see if you would own up to saying what you said back in the tacoburrito group. you did not. you tried to revise everything you said, even though you were unequivocal back then.

you were completely unequivocal about not believing the holocaust happened "at all" and you were completely unequivocal about wanting to see israel "obliterated".

you have now proven that you can't be honest, and so i am done humoring you.

fuck you and have a terrible day.
 
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What is this? Is this your idea of an argument? What does this prove? Am I not allowed to edit for clarification or to correct spelling mistakes? (Look I edited this post too, lol)

Thanks for showing up though. Sincerely. The other guy was too much of a coward and was obviously unable to substantiate ANY of his aspersions. The other guys claims begin much earlier, but can be summed up from post #148 onward on https://www.rollitup.org/politics/681211-closing-threads-15.html
 
you said you want to israel obliterated. i have family in israel. You still must not have read my earlier posts.

my wife's family has this notion that is documented through historical records that some of them died in the holocaust. you said about the holocaust, and i quote, that "I don't believe it happened at all". Yes, at this point in time I do not believe there were mass gassings (as that was what the quote was pertaining to). I never disputed the fact that people "died in [meaning "during"] the holocaust [timeperiod]". If you'll allow me to continue doing research and discussing the arguments... maybe my view will change when presented with new information or some of the revisionist information is shown to be discredited. Bullying, harassing, and dragging my name through the mud is not going to change my mind or threaten my intellectual honesty.

I would be curious to know why you entertain the colorized. The type and level of historical documentation (that it did happen and on a massive scale) seems solid to me. cn

ceterum censeo I would move this discussion to Politics where I believe it belongs. A local or global mod is invited to do so.
 
What is this? Is this your idea of an argument?

it's me pointing out your after the fact revisionism.

What does this prove? Am I not allowed to edit for clarification or to correct spelling mistakes? (Look I edited this post too, lol)

adding substantial content via an edit as you have done is poor form.

Thanks for showing up though. Sincerely. The other guy was too much of a coward and was obviously unable to substantiate ANY of his aspersions. The other guys claims begin much earlier, but can be summed up from post #148 onward on https://www.rollitup.org/politics/681211-closing-threads-15.html

he made it perfectly clear that he was unwilling, not unable. words have meanings, ya know.

some good berkeley did for you when an ASU dropout has to point out these simple kinds of things.
 
I would be curious to know why you entertain the colorized. The type and level of historical documentation (that it did happen and on a massive scale) seems solid to me. cn

ceterum censeo I would move this discussion to Politics where I believe it belongs. A local or global mod is invited to do so.

This poor discussion can't seem to find a home ;)
 
it's me pointing out your after the fact revisionism.

adding substantial content via an edit as you have done is poor form.

All anyone has to do is check the edit times in relation to your next post. I wouldn't call correcting typos to be adding substantial content. You can still respond to them. Most of the edits were me clarifying so that it would be more difficult for you to twist my words. This thread has disintegrated into nothing worth anyone's time. I'm done arguing.
 
This poor discussion can't seem to find a home ;)

this discussion is illegal (on nietzschekeen's end of things) in many countries.

little twerp should count his lucky stars that he rests his head in a nation that won't send him to prison for his vile hate speech.
 
I would be curious to know why you entertain the colorized. The type and level of historical documentation (that it did happen and on a massive scale) seems solid to me. cn

ceterum censeo I would move this discussion to Politics where I believe it belongs. A local or global mod is invited to do so.

Thank you for asking such a decent question. I will say that I used to not have these doubts/beliefs... which ever is more appropriate. Like I've mentioned, I like to be open minded and hear different sides of arguments. I've listened to the hollow earth and flat earth people, I've listened and read about ancient aliens, I've watched "documentaries" on the faking of the moon landing and 9/11 and the Oklahoma City Bombing and Sandyhook shooting. The list of arguments are seemingly endless.

One day I decided to listen to the crazies that didn't believe the holocaust happened as is typically accepted. It was a video I believe titled "Holocaust Revisionism for Beginners". It can be found online. Also some videos by David Cole, who is Jewish. Then after my interest was peaked, I got a book from online called The Hoax of the 21st Century. That first video I mentioned was enough to get the ball rolling. I was expecting some really weak arguments like the ones I got from the hollow earth people. But it wasn't empty or weak... it really caused me to question things. I have no way of knowing right now what is right or wrong. A great number, more than you know, are in disagreement about MANY of the details of the holocaust. I've even seen some photos and read some memoirs that led me to believe their may be some truth to this. I don't know. I just go with what the evidence says and right now I'm leaning towards the "there were no mass gassings" side of things. I'm not making any statements about what I believed happened, because I don't know.

I do encourage people to check into it themselves. The best way to beat someone is to know their secrets. In fact, I really do wish someone would discredit or debunk some of the statements made by revisionists... usually it is almost always just people yelling at them and calling them names and the revisionists being thrown into jail. I also think it might give some merit to their revisionist beliefs because it is one of very few things you can go to jail for thinking or talking about. The fact that they believe in it enough to risk indefinite jail time has got to be worth something.
 
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