Same thing is taking place here in Southern Oregon among growers I know. Same strain, everyone does about the same soil amendments, the only difference being the early flowering seems to be happening to early starters (Feb) with both seeds and clones but not all of their plants. No one can come up with a logical explanation but the affected plants haven't gone back to veg and there are going to be some disappointing yields.
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Thcofgreen
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So Strange, Not what I wanted to hear. It doesn't make since at all. I didn't set these clones out until the end of May or beginning of June, they should have been fine. Now I wish that I had kept them inside longer so they could have had a decent veg period.
Our last average frost date is 04-29 and most everyone has their seed germinated plants outside by the first or second week in May, clones usually no later than the last week in May, first week in June. No, it doesn't make any sense, there are some very bewildered people here.
submachinegun
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all of my plants that began to flower have all reverted back.
Angus
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What light sched. were they on inside?
And to the guy from oregon. Really? No one can figure it out? Why moving your plants outside in Feb (how do you even do that in Oregon?) might make them flower? None in your community of growers considered there being less than eleven hours of light outside a probable flowering trigger?
You're acting like there's some unexplained phenomenon that the top scientists in your region are scrambling to explain.
You know they flower @ 12hrs because of millions of indoor grows. You know they flower due to a decreased photoperiod because of millions of outdoor grows. You didn't say if people were starting seeds or moving clones outside but either way you should be able to reason that they'd start to bud.
Thcofgreen
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They were on 18/6 inside. I know several other people have been having this problem around here as well.What light sched. were they on inside?
And to the guy from oregon. Really? No one can figure it out? Why moving your plants outside in Feb (how do you even do that in Oregon?) might make them flower? None in your community of growers considered there being less than eleven hours of light outside a probable flowering trigger?
You're acting like there's some unexplained phenomenon that the top scientists in your region are scrambling to explain.
Angus
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There you have it, folks.
They were germinated/cloned in Feb/Mar and placed under lights through April, taken outdoors on warm days in April to harden them and taken out for good first part of May. Same routine that's been followed for years, medical and guerrilla growers.
Indoor light cycles were 24/0 for the first month, 14/10 until permanently taken outdoors in May, which has 15/9 at our latitude/longitude. None experienced 12/12 at any time. About 25% of the growers I know, all with years of outdoor growing experience, had the same thing happen, not to all plants, but some, both seed germinated and clones. Maybe your scientists can explain it.You're acting like there's some unexplained phenomenon that the top scientists in your region are scrambling to explain.
That would do it, but I don't know anybody using 18/6 that planned to go in the ground outdoors after the last frost date.
pimpsterhl
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anyone got any tips about the white bugs?
Angus
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How can you say that matter-of-factly, and still wonder how going from 24/0 to outdoor might make them flower? Listen to your own logic.
They have experienced like a ten hour decrease in daylight in their lives. 12/12 doesn't have anything to do with anything when you're talking about outside growing.
Thcofgreen
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So then what would cause my plants to do this? Any idea? I don't understand why some of them would start flowering and others would not, considering that these are clones from the mother and were grown under the exact same conditions.
Angus
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There's no mystery. The change in light is the only thing that makes plants flower. You said:
Now you've cut the light by like four hours by taking them outside. Some of them recognized it as a decreasing photoperiod and some didn't.
Zig Zag Zane
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Angus is right...outdoors 12/12 doesnt really have shit to do w/flowering...plants can easily become confused when moved outdoors...
chasenuggethed
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pimpsterhl
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I will attempt to get a decent picture of said pest but in the meantime can ANYONE give me any advice on how to either kill them or ward them off? Any info is greatly appreciated...