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KidneyStoner420

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Def do it cloudz. U can get a 250 kit and make your own cooltube like me.
Also, I just checked the contents of my molasses. It's made by Brer Rabbit and has 25% Mag and 20% Cal.
 

Cloudz2600

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I took these pics just for you :)
Aw I feel special now ;)

Right inlines...I wish there was a sticky like there is for CFLs lol. First thing that came up on the ebay search: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Inline-Booster-Fan-6-6-Inch-240-CFM-Air-Direct-Air-Flow-Duct-Hydroponic-120-V-/390354457841?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5ae2f054f1#ht_2012wt_1166, I'll figure out decibels later, but this is, in general, what I'm looking for right? I'll basically have the cool tube on the ceiling of the bin(I assume the hangers will be adjustable, hopefully) and have the inline running from the same place I have the exhaust fans now to the tube? So 6" cool tube gets a 6" inline fan?

I'm guessing the cool tube isn't air tight so the inline will work as my exhaust fan for the rest of the area as well so I could still have a passive intake. Although I'll probably put one of the PC fans as one of my intakes if the inline is all I need for exhaust. Just looked at your pic, will I need ducting as well?

You seem like a resident expert on HIDs now lol. If you wanna do some shopping for me I have a budget of $250 lol.

It's probably cheaper to buy some manufacture's bundle, but do I need a 150w ballast to run a 150w bulb or can I get say a 250w ballast and still be fine.
 

Cloudz2600

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Def do it cloudz. U can get a 250 kit and make your own cooltube like me.
Also, I just checked the contents of my molasses. It's made by Brer Rabbit and has 25% Mag and 20% Cal.
Yea I just noticed the stuff I have says 10% cal so I'm guessing 15% mag. Still better than the 2% of Grandma's. Really wasn't feeling that drive to the farmer's market to get the same stuff. I may just use the stuff I use for cooking and swap it out with the stuff I just bought. It has 25% cal/mag.
 

Lady.J

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Aw I feel special now ;)

Right inlines...I wish there was a sticky like there is for CFLs lol. First thing that came up on the ebay search: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Inline-Booster-Fan-6-6-Inch-240-CFM-Air-Direct-Air-Flow-Duct-Hydroponic-120-V-/390354457841?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5ae2f054f1#ht_2012wt_1166, I'll figure out decibels later, but this is, in general, what I'm looking for right? I'll basically have the cool tube on the ceiling of the bin(I assume the hangers will be adjustable, hopefully) and have the inline running from the same place I have the exhaust fans now to the tube? So 6" cool tube gets a 6" inline fan?

I'm guessing the cool tube isn't air tight so the inline will work as my exhaust fan for the rest of the area as well so I could still have a passive intake. Although I'll probably put one of the hPC fans as one of my intakes if the inline is all I need for exhaust. Just looked at your pic, will I need ducting as well?

You seem like a resident expert on HIDs now lol. If you wanna do some shopping for me I have a budget of $250 lol.

It's probably cheaper to buy some manufacture's bundle, but do I need a 150w ballast to run a 150w bulb or can I get say a 250w ballast and still be fine.
Lol I know right...it was much harder for me to find out info on HID. Had to read a lot of grows to get an idea of what to do and what I'd need. What you linked looks just like the fan I have, but yup, that's what you're looking for in general. Usually, the lights come with hangers...but I think it has been easier for people to mount it in small places and just raise the plants close to it if they need to be. And yup, you'd have the inline positioned at the same place you have the exhaust...I'd imagine in the bin that you'd probably be able to connect them right to each other with minimal ducting if any at all. 6in tube to 6 in fan is correct. Same with ducting.

Just thought about it, it' probably be a pain in the ass to open the bin with the light hanging or being mounted. IF you did think about a little cabinet, the only DIY you'd have to do is to cut intake and exhaust, then a circle in the back to feed wires through. I think I've heard people saying they take things to lowes to have them cut? Hell, you could probably build the box cheap as hell after you have Lowe's cut the dimensions you want. I know I know...you don't like DIY, but it's not that hard to just make a square box...that's IF you think about switching.

You're right, the cooltube isn't air tight. The end that houses the socket is left open to draw air across the light, and passive intake works well. I don't need anything else for intake even though the tent is 4x4x6.8. You will probably only need ducting if you plan on raising and lowering the actual light.

Lol I'm far from an expert...but I studied the hell out of it like a true nerd :lol:. I don't mind looking around for you at all :)

Now the ballast question, you might want to look that up because I'm not entirely sure, but I believe you can run a 150 on a 250 ballast with no issues. Manufacturer bundle is better to me because it comes with reflector, lamp, bulbs, ballast, hangers, and timer! And if it's a good bundle, warranty ;)
 

Lady.J

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$183 shipped to your door.
6" cooltube/reflector, 400w MH and HPS bulbs 400w dimmable ballast (dims to 250 and 150!), timer, ratchet hangers (way better than yo-yos)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/400W-250W-150W-DIMMABLE-DIGITAL-BALLAST-MH-HPS-6-AIR-COOLTUBE-GROW-LIGHT-KIT-/380452613251?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5894be2c83
I paid $150 for mine...all the same as above except the bulbs also have 1 year warranties, and the ballast has a 3 year warranty. Was the best deal I found on the net. However...that big ass cool tube isn't fitting in sterilite bins lol. I'm trying to find a regular 250 w/ cooltube but without any luck...everything 250 with a tube is listed as dimmable from a 400 or 600w.
 

Cloudz2600

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Lol I know right...it was much harder for me to find out info on HID. Had to read a lot of grows to get an idea of what to do and what I'd need. What you linked looks just like the fan I have, but yup, that's what you're looking for in general. Usually, the lights come with hangers...but I think it has been easier for people to mount it in small places and just raise the plants close to it if they need to be. And yup, you'd have the inline positioned at the same place you have the exhaust...I'd imagine in the bin that you'd probably be able to connect them right to each other with minimal ducting if any at all. 6in tube to 6 in fan is correct. Same with ducting.

Just thought about it, it' probably be a pain in the ass to open the bin with the light hanging or being mounted. IF you did think about a little cabinet, the only DIY you'd have to do is to cut intake and exhaust, then a circle in the back to feed wires through. I think I've heard people saying they take things to lowes to have them cut? Hell, you could probably build the box cheap as hell after you have Lowe's cut the dimensions you want. I know I know...you don't like DIY, but it's not that hard to just make a square box...that's IF you think about switching.

You're right, the cooltube isn't air tight. The end that houses the socket is left open to draw air across the light, and passive intake works well. I don't need anything else for intake even though the tent is 4x4x6.8. You will probably only need ducting if you plan on raising and lowering the actual light.

Lol I'm far from an expert...but I studied the hell out of it like a true nerd :lol:. I don't mind looking around for you at all :)

Now the ballast question, you might want to look that up because I'm not entirely sure, but I believe you can run a 150 on a 250 ballast with no issues. Manufacturer bundle is better to me because it comes with reflector, lamp, bulbs, ballast, hangers, and timer! And if it's a good bundle, warranty ;)
Well it can't be any harder than dealing with 2 reflectors and two bulbs on a surge protector hanging if I mount it right to the ceiling. I could probably use books(not like I use em anyway) or blocks of wood or something to raise the pot(s) instead of raising the lights, that's a good idea.

Where would I get a cabinet though? Or are you saying get 4 pieces of wood, get Lowe's to cut em to dimensions(they can probably cut the holes for me too), go back home and build a box? The only part I don't like about that is IF I have to get a nail and hammer and build it.

I figure I won't need an intake fan if I have a decent(200+ CFM) fan, but since I'll have two 60 CFM fans laying around why not use em?

I'll look around ebay for some bundles I guess. So I'm looking for a cool tube, ballast, bulb and inline fan. Did I miss anything?
 

Cloudz2600

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I paid $150 for mine...all the same as above except the bulbs also have 1 year warranties, and the ballast has a 3 year warranty. Was the best deal I found on the net. However...that big ass cool tube isn't fitting in sterilite bins lol. I'm trying to find a regular 250 w/ cooltube but without any luck...everything 250 with a tube is listed as dimmable from a 400 or 600w.
Looking at the dimensions you bought eh CT27 cool tube from the link you posted both tubes are 27" long, 6" wide.
 

Lady.J

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Well it can't be any harder than dealing with 2 reflectors and two bulbs on a surge protector hanging if I mount it right to the ceiling. I could probably use books(not like I use em anyway) or blocks of wood or something to raise the pot(s) instead of raising the lights, that's a good idea.

Where would I get a cabinet though? Or are you saying get 4 pieces of wood, get Lowe's to cut em to dimensions(they can probably cut the holes for me too), go back home and build a box? The only part I don't like about that is IF I have to get a nail and hammer and build it.

I figure I won't need an intake fan if I have a decent(200+ CFM) fan, but since I'll have two 60 CFM fans laying around why not use em?

I'll look around ebay for some bundles I guess. So I'm looking for a cool tube, ballast, bulb and inline fan. Did I miss anything?
You could buy a regular cabinet say for garage storage...or like the european wardrobes, looks like a locker for clothes...that would probably even be better stealth than the bins. And yup, Lowes would cut everything out that you need, all you have to do is hammer. I feel you if that isn't your thing though. If I knew you in person I'd come do it for you! I love that kind of shit lol.

Want to know what's weird? My temps went up when I added a fan to my intake. I guess the passive intake is better depending on the CFMs being pushed out?

The only thing you missed is ducting, but that's cheap and you can get it easy at home depot or lowe's.

I'm not having much luck finding a pure 150w or 250w hps. They are listing 400w and 600w systems and showing them as dimmable to 150 and 250 when I did a search...same thing on google. That's why it might be better to get a cabinet / closet. If I find a good one for you, will you maybe be interested? If not, I can keep trying to find 150s. You can always build your own cool tube so you can use the lower wattage light systems... which supposedly isn't that complicated...but I just bought it cuz it was only 30 bucks more than reg reflector and I didn't feel like bothering.
 

KidneyStoner420

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Just buy a Bake a round like I did. It's a 4" round cylinder made of Pyrex flass, and it's only 18" long or so.

Here's a pic of my 250 with the bake a round.

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Cloudz2600

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I'm not having much luck finding a pure 150w or 250w hps. They are listing 400w and 600w systems and showing them as dimmable to 150 and 250 when I did a search...same thing on google. That's why it might be better to get a cabinet / closet. If I find a good one for you, will you maybe be interested? If not, I can keep trying to find 150s. You can always build your own cool tube so you can use the lower wattage light systems... which supposedly isn't that complicated...but I just bought it cuz it was only 30 bucks more than reg reflector and I didn't feel like bothering.
I have no problem with dimmable if it can still go down to 150w. That would problem be better than a regular 150 in case I ever wanted more light. When you mean find a good one, you mean a cabinet/closet or lighting system lol.

Nice! Can't beat $3.
 

Lady.J

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I have no problem with dimmable if it can still go down to 150w. That would problem be better than a regular 150 in case I ever wanted more light. When you mean find a good one, you mean a cabinet/closet or lighting system lol.



Nice! Can't beat $3.
Lol thought the same about 3$

I thought you might like dimmable since you can upgrade later...the point is how HUGE the cooltube would be in the bin. Even though it doesn't weigh much, it'd def make the bin top heavy. Took a pic for you, used my man's hat for scale...figure most guys are familiar with that :-P


 

Cloudz2600

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Frankly as long as the tube doesn't fall down on the plants and it fits I'll be fine. I'll probably try to get the bin how you had it and have it open the way you did and even then I only try to open it every 2 days or so. You saying I can't lift? :P That's...a pretty big tube though.

I posted a dimmable 400/250/150
I think the issue with that was the 27" long tube right? I've got about 25" end to end.
 

Lady.J

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Frankly as long as the tube doesn't fall down on the plants and it fits I'll be fine. I'll probably try to get the bin how you had it and have it open the way you did and even then I only try to open it every 2 days or so. You saying I can't lift? :P That's...a pretty big tube though.


I think the issue with that was the 27" long tube right? I've got about 25" end to end.
Don't forget to include room for the inline fan...and possible ducting...seems like it would be cramped. Don't see to many option unless you want to get into some DIY!
 

Cloudz2600

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Hmm...It seems that way too...So I either have too little vertical room for LEDs or too little horizontal for HIDs...FML. I guess I could look at doing a DIY cab...I think I lost my hammer lol. Alright let's see then. I'll need 6 sheets of wood right? Would any type of wood work? I'm probably looking for something decently thick right? More importantly what width/height should I be looking at? 3 feet long? 4 feet? 2'-2.5' is probably good for width.

Ugh...This is the reason I hate DIY lol. This is kinda making me want to look at getting a 40+ gallon sterilite bin. If my 30g is just a little bit too short a 40gal should be fine lol. No assembly and probably cheaper than buying 6 solid wood panels and having work done on it(or is that free?). I know they cut stuff down to size for you, but I'm not sure about them cutting holes, squares, etc. The sterilite would still be pretty portable(it fits in my coupe)...I think...Probably.

Doesn't look like what I have right now will work for me either way though. I guess I've got about a month(not a long time actually) to figure it out/buy what I need.
 

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