Novel coronavirus introduced to humans in exotic animal meat market.

abandonconflict said:

Inflection points are what to look for, when you seek statistical proof that everything is going to be ok. So, you take them old numbars and graphicalize em up, new cases per day and whatnot. Here's what may be a best case scenarion demonstrating what I'm failing utterly to explain:
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As you can see, in the last couple weeks of February, numbers started exploding. South Korea had already implemented its effective and efficient strategy to combat the outbreak weeks earlier. That line wanted to get steep. In early March, which was quite soon and early, that line started wanting to get horizontal. That's the inflection point. Because of their prudent counter measures implemented before things got scary, the line began to flatten pronto. It doesn't mean they all start going out to the disco again and raving. It means there's a light at the end of the tunnel and this too shall pass.

Now here's a worst case scenario. Italy's numbers started exploding around the same time AND THEN they implemented protocols.
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Still no inflection point. They now apparently have more fatalities than even China.

Please observe social distancing and don't be a super-spreader.

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Stoned Cold Bulldog said:

big title that sounds definitive. except they aren't sure at all. not to mention if you don't know how china handles what appears in print/radio sanctioned by them then well... smdh lol
carry on

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abandonconflict said:

This is incoherent. Are you saying that you don't think that SARS-CoV-2 came from where a near consensus of epidemiologists and virologists accept that it did?

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Fact check: Coronavirus originated in China, not elsewhere, researchers and studies say

An article circulating on social media claims the coronavirus did not originate in China. We examine the research and rate this claim false.

www.usatoday.com

Fact check: Coronavirus originated in China, not elsewhere, researchers and studies say

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Unclebaldrick said:

I have no idea what he is saying. I doubt he does either.

But he seems really proud of it. "Carry on". Lol.

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This work provides additional evidence for a median incubation period for COVID-19 of approximately 5 days, similar to SARS. Our results support current proposals for the length of quarantine or active monitoring of persons potentially exposed to SARS-CoV-2, although longer monitoring periods might be justified in extreme cases.

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abandonconflict said:

WHO changed its stance on pet cats and dogs being susceptible to SARS-CoV-2. Cats and dogs do get infected. They're still saying they don't know if the animals can spread the disease (absence of evidence is not evidence of absence).

A dog in Hong Kong tested positive, subsequently tested negative, was released back its owner and died two days later. The negative test could have simply meant that there was no immune response. The positive test was a swab, they actually took a tiny tissue sample from mucous membrane in the upper respiritory tract and found infection. After testing in this way again and seeing nothing, along with no clinical signs of infection, they tested the dog's blood and found no antibodies, declared the pooch virus free.

Or, the dog could have died of stress and age. It's certainly possible.

Don't let your cat out. Don't let people touch your dog.

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Using in vitro infection assays, Zhou et al. discovered that convalescent sera from surviving patients convincingly neutralized infections. Moreover, in an initial assessment of broad antibody-mediated protection, they found that horse anti-SARS-CoV serum cross-neutralized SARS-CoV-2 infections. Therefore, one can be optimistic about the prospects for broad antibody-mediated immunity against current and future zoonotic SARS-related CoVs, although much work lies ahead to identify vaccines that can elicit appropriate neutralizing antibodies.

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abandonconflict said:

Germany:
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Today might be the inflection point, but to be fair, they've done an incredible job saving people even if their response was a little late.

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Coronavirus in Russia: The Latest News | Feb. 24 - The Moscow Times

Russia has confirmed 18,315,292 cases of coronavirus and 378,784 deaths, according to the national coronavirus information center. Russia’s total excess fatality count since the start of the coronavirus pandemic is at least 995,000. Under half the population is fully vaccinated.

www.themoscowtimes.com

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March 20
— Russia confirmed 54 new cases of coronavirus, bringing the country's total number of infections to 253.
— There is "no need" for President Vladimir Putin to take a coronavirus test because he hasn't shown any symptoms of the illness, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said.
— The Russian Armed Forces' spring draft will go on as planned despite the coronavirus, Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said at a military meeting. All new recruits will be checked for the virus, he said.
— Russian public figures, doctors and citizens have launched a petition urging the government to take urgent action against the coronavirus as the country’s number of confirmed cases continues to climb, including postponing the April 22 vote on President Vladimir Putin's constirutional amendments.
— Moscow traffic police have launched spot checks on the city's taxis to ensure drivers wear face masks and regularly disinfect their vehicles. Under new regulations, drivers must change masks every three hours and use sanitizer to clean their hands and disinfect their vehicles twice a day.
— Russia has postponed a scheduled test for compliance with its "internet isolation" law due to the coronavirus, officials told Interfax.
— The head of infectious diseases in the Stavropol region — who returned to work after vacationing in Spain despite having coronavirus symptoms — has been hospitalized with suspected coronavirus, the Mediazona news website reported.

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Coronavirus in Russia: The Latest News | Feb. 24 - The Moscow Times

Russia has confirmed 18,315,292 cases of coronavirus and 378,784 deaths, according to the national coronavirus information center. Russia’s total excess fatality count since the start of the coronavirus pandemic is at least 995,000. Under half the population is fully vaccinated.

www.themoscowtimes.com

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abandonconflict said:

WHO changed its stance on pet cats and dogs being susceptible to SARS-CoV-2. Cats and dogs do get infected. They're still saying they don't know if the animals can spread the disease (absence of evidence is not evidence of absence).

A dog in Hong Kong tested positive, subsequently tested negative, was released back its owner and died two days later. The negative test could have simply meant that there was no immune response. The positive test was a swab, they actually took a tiny tissue sample from mucous membrane in the upper respiritory tract and found infection. After testing in this way again and seeing nothing, along with no clinical signs of infection, they tested the dog's blood and found no antibodies, declared the pooch virus free.

Or, the dog could have died of stress and age. It's certainly possible.

Don't let your cat out. Don't let people touch your dog.

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DIY-HP-LED said:

I smell BS foggy, Canada has 863 cases FFS. Vlad is another stable jenius it seems, only he has more brains and control of the data than Donald. If Donald controlled the data, there would be no cases at all in America now. N Korea, just shoots the infected and the health minister too!

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abandonconflict said:

Merikuh

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Fogdog said:

I try not to get lost in the weeds, LED. Sure the numbers are not reliable, as is true for the US. My take-away is that the break in silence on this problem in Russia means the problem has exceeded any ability to Putin to hide it. The virus has spread across Russia. From what Moscow Times reports, the public has not been ordered or even asked to self isolate. What happens next is predictably a crisis in their health care system sometime soon as we are going to have in a matter of two or three weeks. The severity of Russia's crisis will determine what happens after that.

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