Budley Doright
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Yes true but it’s the same when I catch a carp and wonder how they filet it lol. Also I heard today it’s all due to the 5G network. There goes my hope of virtual porn bots
Novel coronavirus introduced to humans in exotic animal meat market.
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abandonconflict
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You clearly didn't read the study that was published in Nature. They put forth two conclusions. There are only two plausible conclusions and both are to explain why this virus is 4% different from SARS-CoV. Either there was an intermediate host between the bat host and the human, or it evolved in the human organism. That's why it mentions probabilities and liklihood.
The debate is over. It 100% did not come from a lab.
captainmorgan
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The Wuhan lab admitted working with bat virus from around China. Could have been a natural virus leaked from the lab that is less than a thousand feet from the market.
Rob Roy
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Like many armored type critters and people that post here, they have a soft underbelly.
abandonconflict
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Budley Doright
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Your right, it did not come from a lab!!!! Where in the fuck did I say that??? Unfortunately you did not read my response and felt you were being attacked ..... sorry but that’s not what I said.
Dr.Amber Trichome
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Many unanswered questions. The most bizarre is how come that family in New Jersey had 4 family members die within a week of exposure at from gathering at a dinner together. One of them . A women in her early 50’s had no health issues at all. I hope to see the autopsy report on her.
abandonconflict
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Those tragic iotas are so interesting. I bet it was a congenital heart condition that one member of the family just didn't inherit.
Kassiopeija
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50 is already old in terms of the function of the adaptive immunsystem...
Thymic involution - Wikipedia
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"but, studies with bone marrow transplant patients have shown that the thymi of the majority of patients over forty were unable to build a naïve T cell compartment"
Dr.Amber Trichome
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Yeah an incidental finding. I have many patients that come to me after getting an imaging scan because they were in an accident or something completely unrelated to Cancer and then the scan result will show a suspicious legion or lymph node and then they will find out they have cancer. I suspect many will die from the virus because of unknown health problems. Its terrible.
captainmorgan
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Fogdog
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dang -- 50 pages and it's mostly just an outline for hands on training.
I thought my class on CPR/first aid was hard. It was a whole three hours.
Kassiopeija
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There was a study once in Hamburg on autopsies of deaths by car accident - and they found around 10% already developed a pre-cancerous state, often multiple-times.
captainmorgan
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Immunogenicity and structures of a rationally designed prefusion MERS-CoV spike antigen
Coronaviruses such as Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus (MERS-CoV) cause severe respiratory distress with high fatality rates. The spike (S) glycoprotein is a determinant of host range and is the target of neutralizing antibodies and subunit vaccine development. We describe an...
Budley Doright
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I failed, I had to stop compressions, torn rotator cuff
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abandonconflict
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I have taught that class to a lot of people and in several languages.
Fogdog
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The CPR/first aid class or the coronavirus one?
abandonconflict
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Emergency first response. Not just to divers either, in the army we had a more in depth course called combat life savers course or CLS. You might be surprised at how many soldiers weaken at the sight of blood and simply cannot properly insert an IV tube or be of any use at all when there's some blood in front of them.
Fogdog
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It was a PADI first responder class that I took. Getting ready for the season. I keep the cert current.
DIY-HP-LED
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Here Abandon, geek out!
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Breadth of concomitant immune responses prior to patient recovery: a case report of non-severe COVID-19
A 47-year-old woman from Wuhan, Hubei province, China, presented to an emergency department in Melbourne, Australia. Her symptoms commenced 4 d earlier with lethargy, sore throat, dry cough, pleuritic chest pain, mild dyspnea and subjective fevers (Fig. 1a). She traveled from Wuhan to Australia 11 d before presentation. She had no contact with the Huanan seafood market or with known COVID-19 cases. She was otherwise healthy and was a non-smoker taking no medications. Clinical examination revealed a temperature of 38.5 °C, a pulse rate of 120 beats per minute, a blood pressure of 140/80 mm Hg, a respiratory rate of 22 breaths per minute, and oxygen saturation 98% while breathing ambient air. Lung auscultation revealed bi-basal rhonchi. At presentation on day 4, SARS-CoV-2 was detected in a nasopharyngeal swab specimen by real-time reverse-transcriptase PCR. SARS-CoV-2 was again detected at days 5–6 in nasopharyngeal, sputum and fecal samples, but was undetectable from day 7 (Fig. 1a). Blood C-reactive protein was elevated at 83.2, with normal counts of lymphocytes (4.3 × 109 cells per liter (range, 4.0 × 109 to 12.0 × 109 cells per liter)) and neutrophils (6.3 × 109 cells per liter (range, 2.0 × 109 to 8.0 × 109 × 109 cells per liter)). No other respiratory pathogens were detected. Her management was intravenous fluid rehydration without supplemental oxygenation. No antibiotics, steroids or antiviral agents were administered. Chest radiography demonstrated bi-basal infiltrates at day 5 that cleared on day 10 (Fig. 1b). She was discharged to home isolation on day 11. Her symptoms resolved completely by day 13, and she remained well at day 20, with progressive increases in plasma SARS-CoV-2-binding IgM and IgG antibodies from day 7 until day 20 (Fig. 1c and Extended Data Fig. 1). The patient was enrolled through the Sentinel Travelers Research Preparedness Platform for Emerging Infectious Diseases novel coronavirus substudy (SETREP-ID-coV) and provided written informed consent before the study. Patient care and research were conducted in compliance with the Case Report guidelines and the Declaration of Helsinki. Experiments were performed with ethics approvals HREC/17/MH/53, HREC/15/MonH/64/2016.196 and UoM#1442952.1/#1443389.4.
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Breadth of concomitant immune responses prior to patient recovery: a case report of non-severe COVID-19
- Irani Thevarajan,
- Thi H. O. Nguyen,
- Marios Koutsakos,
- Julian Druce,
- Leon Caly,
- Carolien E. van de Sandt,
- Xiaoxiao Jia,
- Suellen Nicholson,
- Mike Catton,
- Benjamin Cowie,
- Steven Y. C. Tong,
- Sharon R. Lewin &
- Katherine Kedzierska
A 47-year-old woman from Wuhan, Hubei province, China, presented to an emergency department in Melbourne, Australia. Her symptoms commenced 4 d earlier with lethargy, sore throat, dry cough, pleuritic chest pain, mild dyspnea and subjective fevers (Fig. 1a). She traveled from Wuhan to Australia 11 d before presentation. She had no contact with the Huanan seafood market or with known COVID-19 cases. She was otherwise healthy and was a non-smoker taking no medications. Clinical examination revealed a temperature of 38.5 °C, a pulse rate of 120 beats per minute, a blood pressure of 140/80 mm Hg, a respiratory rate of 22 breaths per minute, and oxygen saturation 98% while breathing ambient air. Lung auscultation revealed bi-basal rhonchi. At presentation on day 4, SARS-CoV-2 was detected in a nasopharyngeal swab specimen by real-time reverse-transcriptase PCR. SARS-CoV-2 was again detected at days 5–6 in nasopharyngeal, sputum and fecal samples, but was undetectable from day 7 (Fig. 1a). Blood C-reactive protein was elevated at 83.2, with normal counts of lymphocytes (4.3 × 109 cells per liter (range, 4.0 × 109 to 12.0 × 109 cells per liter)) and neutrophils (6.3 × 109 cells per liter (range, 2.0 × 109 to 8.0 × 109 × 109 cells per liter)). No other respiratory pathogens were detected. Her management was intravenous fluid rehydration without supplemental oxygenation. No antibiotics, steroids or antiviral agents were administered. Chest radiography demonstrated bi-basal infiltrates at day 5 that cleared on day 10 (Fig. 1b). She was discharged to home isolation on day 11. Her symptoms resolved completely by day 13, and she remained well at day 20, with progressive increases in plasma SARS-CoV-2-binding IgM and IgG antibodies from day 7 until day 20 (Fig. 1c and Extended Data Fig. 1). The patient was enrolled through the Sentinel Travelers Research Preparedness Platform for Emerging Infectious Diseases novel coronavirus substudy (SETREP-ID-coV) and provided written informed consent before the study. Patient care and research were conducted in compliance with the Case Report guidelines and the Declaration of Helsinki. Experiments were performed with ethics approvals HREC/17/MH/53, HREC/15/MonH/64/2016.196 and UoM#1442952.1/#1443389.4.
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