....alright....this is for you brandon....this is one of my super floppy vortexes, with a canopy ring inside....you can't see it, but it is in there holding everything up, notice how nice and round she is!....honestly, i don't know how you could grow it without one.....like sub's description says..."lots of sticks and string".......i hate sticks and string....no offense to anyone....but i can't hang with bud flop.......i am also thinking of running my best vortex outdo, just to see what she can do, plus i have a sneaky suspicion, it is going to be in very high demand......my best vortex is a little bit heavier stemmed, and she has this black peper smell i adore along with the syrupy mango thing.............oh, the four legged cages work the best, there are three and four, but the four legged are stouter....and make sure the top ring is at least 16 inches in diameter....i am seriously considering having some stainless ones welded up with a 20-24 in. ring dia......for my 20 gal smarts outdo....peace, nugs
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