Nutrient companies are stealing our / your money. Lets talk about it!

chuck estevez

chuck estevez

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pk_boosted2 said:
Hit me back when u put up 6-8 (1000w bulbs) than we can talk about yields.

I get 6 ounces+ per plant i dont need to be told that humboldt is good when its a BS line up.

If i grow organic i would just use The Bio-Canna lineup or H&G Bio1

U dont know what ur talkin about so go to the newbie thread and take ur nonsense elsewhere
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lol
 
phil k

phil k

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pk_boosted2 said:
Hit me back when u put up 6-8 (1000w bulbs) than we can talk about yields.

I get 6 ounces+ per plant i dont need to be told that humboldt is good when its a BS line up.

If i grow organic i would just use The Bio-Canna lineup or H&G Bio1

U dont know what ur talkin about so go to the newbie thread and take ur nonsense elsewhere
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oh please....pull your little dingy out and wave a bit more to feel big
 
a mongo frog

a mongo frog

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pk_boosted2 said:
Hit me back when u put up 6-8 (1000w bulbs) than we can talk about yields.

I get 6 ounces+ per plant i dont need to be told that humboldt is good when its a BS line up.

If i grow organic i would just use The Bio-Canna lineup or H&G Bio1

U dont know what ur talkin about so go to the newbie thread and take ur nonsense elsewhere
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Don't talk like this to people please. There is hobby gardens on this site that would smash your quality. You must know that.
 
phil k

phil k

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and you get 6 ounces paying up the wazoo for chemicals.. you have to balance those chemicals.. use RO water which costs even more to produce... i get 6 oz for 20$ ... end story ur getting sold snake oil...
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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WOW,,,,Just fuck'in wow!

Someone needs to go back to their grow room and play with their synthetic crap and shut the fuck up.....
 
phil k

phil k

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a mongo frog said:
Don't talk like this to people please. There is hobby gardens on this site that would smash your quality. You must know that.
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haha i was going to say something i had to delete it
pk_boosted2 said:
Hit me back when u put up 6-8 (1000w bulbs) than we can talk about yields.

I get 6 ounces+ per plant i dont need to be told that humboldt is good when its a BS line up.

If i grow organic i would just use The Bio-Canna lineup or H&G Bio1

U dont know what ur talkin about so go to the newbie thread and take ur nonsense elsewhere
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and what is it 6 or 8 that i have to beat .. or don't you know how many bulbs your own setup is?
 
Rrog

Rrog

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phil k said:
hey have you heard of the HUMAN SHIT being put into some composts now??? I've heard of big companies using that ... but its a fucking big billion dollar industry here... there was just a recent VICE episode about it.. the cities are selling our human shit to fertilizer companies.... i have to look up what they call it they have a funny name for it.
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WTF kind of torpedo is that? Billions of dollars in human poop... lol

What kind of BS agenda are you "spreading"
 
phil k

phil k

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Rrog said:
WTF kind of torpedo is that? Billions of dollars in human poop... lol

What kind of BS agenda are you "spreading"
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hahaahah lol.....its a billion dollar a year industry in the US right now they are taking human shit and putting it into the composts we use on our foods and plants and shit.. its getting to be so known and prevelatent companies are advertising they do not use BIOSOLIDS in their mixes...
 
phil k

phil k

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i guess its not as bad as japan.. they turn shit into steaks... and were fucking eating it
 
Rrog

Rrog

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^^^ why does this sound like some sort of false flag on your part ^^^

sounds like your contention is that compost shouldn't be used.
 
phil k

phil k

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Rrog said:
^^^ why does this sound like some sort of false flag on your part ^^^

sounds like your contention is that compost shouldn't be used.
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i don't have a ounce of compost in my product... worm castings is it as far as a "compost" is concerned... everything else is soley amendment based

but its not in every compost.. probably little to none in our grow stores but its being used all over and in big companies products like i think miracle grow soil has or had bio solids in it..
 
Rrog

Rrog

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Whatev- your whole Japanese shit sandwich argument makes me not want to read further.
 
phil k

phil k

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phil k said:
i don't have a ounce of compost in my product... worm castings is it as far as a "compost" is concerned... everything else is soley amendment based

but its not in every compost.. probably little to none in our grow stores but its being used all over and in big companies products like i think miracle grow soil has or had bio solids in it..
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theres a lot of food farmers and shit that use it too on our crops..
Rrog said:
Whatev- your whole Japanese shit sandwich argument makes me not want to read further.
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food for thought!!
 
Rrog

Rrog

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Anyway, folks like to spend the $$ on bottle feeding and tweak plant growing- groovy. Nice safe hobby.

I have other shit to do, so I've hired a few billion microbes and a few thousand worms to help me. Set and forget is more my speed. And I pocket the cash savings
 
hydroMD

hydroMD

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phil k said:
wholly shit READ THE DAMN post properly ...first of mites are attracted to certain chemical smells released from plants when they are weak and dying.... when people grow with chemicals they are 90% of the time stressing the grows to their max.. which in return releases the chemicals that attracts mites.. AND there are some chemicals/salts/metals that are used in our chemicals base feed, that replicates the smells our weak and dying plants release that attracts the damn mites... please don't sit and try to talk to me like your running 100% pure zero chemical grows... and have been for years ... I'm so sick of arguing how things work with people that only know one or two damn things about growing... how bugs feed and live and what irritates me more is people with little to no college education in plant sciences.
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Lol I have my education, and you?


Im laughing at the fact you say mites are the fault of those using chemicals indoors.

As if mites are only attracted to chemically grown plants.

Stress hormones may be picked up by mites, but even TLO plants create auxin and other stress induced toxins...


And yeah... ive grown chem free with dry amendments for a long time as well as hydro... so I can say I have experience chemical free.

Still can get any pest under the sun in organics. Your little crustations and azomite mix in your soils might deter a lot of things, butbya can still get colonized.

Id say a messy grow area is the culprit not the nutes. By that's just my uneducated stance
 
Rrog

Rrog

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System A- Bottle fed plants without the normal Plant / Microbe relationship

System B- Natural soil (no bottles) and a normal Plant / Microbe relationship

System B will naturally have a better immune response. Especially with Vermicompost.
 
a mongo frog

a mongo frog

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Rrog said:
System A- Bottle fed plants without the normal Plant / Microbe relationship

System B- Natural soil (no bottles) and a normal Plant / Microbe relationship

System A will naturally have a better immune response. Especially with Vermicompost.
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So your saying both styles of gardening are wonderful?
 
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