Oaksterdam t-5 veg 600w hps flower
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stonerbeans
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looking very good. Should be a great yield for you
d.c. beard
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My bad Drella, I didn't meant to start a bunch of shit on your thread bro. I was only trying to help. Different strokes for different folks I guess, I was just trying to look out for ya. sorry sorry ; )
Anyway, your plants are looking great this time. Best of luck for flower, I'm sure you'll be just fine though!
Huh??
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Ph is actually more important when growing hydro.
Looking nice D!I'm along for the ride.
Drella
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thanks man! i hope they could be looking like yours in a month! feel pretty good about this one. temps 75, 65 lights out. humidity solid 50%. many new growth sites and preflower sites!Nice. Amazing change over the next month, TRUST me
Drella
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thanks bro, i got a lot of help backing this!
don't even worry about it DC, you're the man. every one here is just trying to help, i feel so lucky for that. i value the different opinions out there, it's nice to have more than one way to do things! i feel real good about this, best of luck to you brother!
thanks H, good to have you here, pull up a chair! just in time, 1/1/10 was bloom day 1.
d.c. beard
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Ahhhhhhhh! That's cool your first day of 12/12 was 01/01/10! Simple minds...
Drella
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yeah i thought so.
Drella
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bloom day 4, looking good so far. first watering in bloom, 1/4 strength botanicare pro bloom. looking great. top of tallest plant 15" from glass on glass hood. maybe 17" from light. just keep moving up the light till new growth doesn't come out bleached at all. last two picks are of hindu skunk and quirkel. super bushy girls. i'm contemplating trimming lower growths and immature growths in between. when would be a good time to do this? hope everythings chill out there for you guys, peace!
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Rydub
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Looking good bro. I always Wait until a week or a week 1/2 in to flag. The hormones of the plant have changed at that point and you kind of get a good idea of how the plant wants to stretch. Just dont over do it, But if a branch is clearly going to produce gimp bud chop it. then at the end of week three i flag leaves again for light penitration. After that you should touch them much.
Kriegs
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Hey, Drella... plants look great. Congrats...
Last year, I kept the lower 1/4 of my plant clear of scraggly branches. I removed them at 2-3 points over the grow; never a problem. Plants seemed to love it, mostly.
Just a suggestion: I would not start using "bloom food" just yet. I would stick with your normal vegging formula for awhile yet. Why? Your plants are going into stretch -- that means much more veg growth than flower growth and a continued high demand for N. Macronutes are all about balance -- a plant will not "see the N" in a bloom food because the balance is biased to P and K. And regular veg formulas have more than enough P and K to support flowering.
I would at least wait until height growth has ceased before going to bloom food. I know some people will jump up and down over that, but if I had a nickel for every RIU plant with copper spots and premature leaf drop from bloom foods, I could retire now and just grow weed all day instead of blogging about it on work time. Switching to bloom food right at 12/12 is a mantra with no basis in biology. Just because someone does something and a plant succeeds after it doesn't mean for a second that the plant succeeded because of it.(in addition to my nickel, I'll take a penny, too, for every person that can't make that logical distinction) Plants in the wild go from seed to flower and back to seed year after year with no drastic change in soil constituency like the ones we impose when we switch feed regimes. They know full well how to do this.
Good luck man.. looks great; interesting strain choices, too. Look forward to the smoke report.
Last year, I kept the lower 1/4 of my plant clear of scraggly branches. I removed them at 2-3 points over the grow; never a problem. Plants seemed to love it, mostly.
Just a suggestion: I would not start using "bloom food" just yet. I would stick with your normal vegging formula for awhile yet. Why? Your plants are going into stretch -- that means much more veg growth than flower growth and a continued high demand for N. Macronutes are all about balance -- a plant will not "see the N" in a bloom food because the balance is biased to P and K. And regular veg formulas have more than enough P and K to support flowering.
I would at least wait until height growth has ceased before going to bloom food. I know some people will jump up and down over that, but if I had a nickel for every RIU plant with copper spots and premature leaf drop from bloom foods, I could retire now and just grow weed all day instead of blogging about it on work time. Switching to bloom food right at 12/12 is a mantra with no basis in biology. Just because someone does something and a plant succeeds after it doesn't mean for a second that the plant succeeded because of it.(in addition to my nickel, I'll take a penny, too, for every person that can't make that logical distinction) Plants in the wild go from seed to flower and back to seed year after year with no drastic change in soil constituency like the ones we impose when we switch feed regimes. They know full well how to do this.
Good luck man.. looks great; interesting strain choices, too. Look forward to the smoke report.
d.c. beard
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Looking good. God job on building the box. It was smart to include an a/c unit. If you mylar up all the walls you'll have even better light distribution.
Someguy15
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You're still getting bleaching at 12+ inches? I know you got a 600 but damn that surprises me. My 400w light will give my girls heat stress at about 3" from glass, but I've yet to have it actually bleach the leaves of a plant.
Agreed on the bloom nutes. I started out 25% bloom/75% grow, then taperd it each week, so 50/50 the next week followed by 75% bloom / 25% grow. So over three weeks I changed from pure grow to pure bloom. This works good because by the time your at pure bloom nutes, the stretch is over and the demand for N decreases. Ionic nutes are very close anyhow, grow is 3-1-5 and bloom 3-2-6, boost 0-5-6 Yours will likely vary.
Agreed on the bloom nutes. I started out 25% bloom/75% grow, then taperd it each week, so 50/50 the next week followed by 75% bloom / 25% grow. So over three weeks I changed from pure grow to pure bloom. This works good because by the time your at pure bloom nutes, the stretch is over and the demand for N decreases. Ionic nutes are very close anyhow, grow is 3-1-5 and bloom 3-2-6, boost 0-5-6 Yours will likely vary.
BooMeR242
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trimming the lower portion off still shocks the plants so id avoid it unless the plants are packed together., im jsut guessing from the pix cuz ur pots are spread out enough that light still reaches the sides of the plant. the concept for trimming lower bottom growth is if ur canopy is so thick no light will penetrate and shit will just die off get diseased and wat not. so depends. id do trimming anyways just to clean up the bottom to allow better air flow and easier to inspect. plus popcorn bud is shit and ull prob just make hash with it or toss it watever u do. ive got about 2 pounds worth of trim to still make into bubble hash lol. but anyways not sure this helps but thats just sum ups and downs ive seen bout trimming underneath, im sure theres others on here that mite be able to give u better advice from more experience. hope ur bro is doin better. i got that immunox like u said so the shit should work.
Drella
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thanks man, just the help i needed! flag means cut or trim right? haha! i feel great having you here in my grow! things still looking great, 1" a day, is that normal! lots of hair though, im loving it!Looking good bro. I always Wait until a week or a week 1/2 in to flag. The hormones of the plant have changed at that point and you kind of get a good idea of how the plant wants to stretch. Just dont over do it, But if a branch is clearly going to produce gimp bud chop it. then at the end of week three i flag leaves again for light penitration. After that you should touch them much.
thanks kreigs, great advice on the bloom/veg nutes first week of bloom. i already fed them 1/4 stength bloom nutes yesterday, just reading your post today. every day has seen 1" growth though, except today they all look extra perky! leaves are getting a more rugged spiky look to them.
thanks dc! yeah i got the box from a hippy friend of mine, it really feels professional. 3/4 plywood, and insulated. the walls are lined with the reflective paper that looks like a fun house mirror. i know it's the expensive stuff, but i don't know the name. i don't know if this is what you mean by mylar. thanks for the support bro!
yeah, they aren't bleached, but a little yellow at new growth. i know a lot of people say this is normal, but im taking the advice of goldenganga13, look at his grows and you'll know. he said to keep light farther away at beginning of veg and bloom, when the plants are the most fragile. move the light closer in mature veg, and once nugs form, to let the light penetrate more and do it's work. he uses t5's and 600whps for flower too! i noticed when i moved the t5, and hps farther away i got super green new growth and minimal stretch because of the high lumen count. i know a lot of people will say this will stretch and stress my plants, but look at them. the only "stretchy" plant is the super sativa OGKGC!
damn, i hope i didn't mess up, but i mean i fed them 1/4 strength bloom nutes and water, no veg nutes? is it ok to next time feed them 1/2bloom/1/2 veg nutes? im confused, first time guys! thanks SG, always great to hear from you!
thanks boomer, glad to see you got the immunox, hope it works out for ya mang! yeah, i think im gonna wait till week 2-3 to trim scraggly growths, then no more trimming, thanks for the advice everybody, you guys rock! thanks for support on my brother boomer, it really helps. my older bro got in a motorcycle accident on sunday. he broke his hip, fractured his back, and his right lung collapsed. he's doing chill now, in physical therapy, thanks for the support y'all!trimming the lower portion off still shocks the plants so id avoid it unless the plants are packed together., im jsut guessing from the pix cuz ur pots are spread out enough that light still reaches the sides of the plant. the concept for trimming lower bottom growth is if ur canopy is so thick no light will penetrate and shit will just die off get diseased and wat not. so depends. id do trimming anyways just to clean up the bottom to allow better air flow and easier to inspect. plus popcorn bud is shit and ull prob just make hash with it or toss it watever u do. ive got about 2 pounds worth of trim to still make into bubble hash lol. but anyways not sure this helps but thats just sum ups and downs ive seen bout trimming underneath, im sure theres others on here that mite be able to give u better advice from more experience. hope ur bro is doin better. i got that immunox like u said so the shit should work.
Shrubs First
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For people with a proper feed regime, you shouldn't have to "switch feed regimes"
it is a simple case of adding nutes to your regime you have...... For instance in a
week 4 veg my feed would look something like this
5 mL A formula
4 mL B formula
2 mL Cal/Mag
2 mL humic acid
2 mL fulvic acid
5 mL Hygrozyme
2 mL Roots stimulator
in a week one of flowering the very next week, it wouldn't look much different...
4 mL A Formula
4 mL B Formula
3 mL Cal/Mag
3 mL PK Booster
2 mL humic acid
2 mL fulvic acid
5 mL Hygrozyme
2 mL Roots stimulator
2 mL Molasses
The ONLY difference is that I add a PK booster and a Carbohydrate source..
It's not like you're completely changing the nutrient content of the medium, you
are adding supplements that the plant will be using soon.... They evolved to use
them.
Drella
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right on shrubs, thanks for clearing that up. the plants are looking great today. the sativa, OGKGC that was 20" at start is now at 27" every cola stretching like crazy. i see the sativas getting way denser, not necessarily "stretching". new growth site, next day one or two more new growth sites in the same stalk, crazy! i feel like they're doing chill, they look happy. white hairs are getting longer! would you guys be adding molasses right now as well, what are the benefits?
what's the best way to use molasses? where do you get it?
what's the best way to use molasses? where do you get it?
terrorizer805
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If you are going to use molasses make sure it's the unsulphered type, also I add 1 TBS per 2 gallons of H20 you can add more if you'd like but that's just me. Molasses feeds the benificial bacteria living in your soil. You can buy it at your local grocery store.
d.c. beard
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Or you can get a giant 2 gallon container of horticultural-grade molasses from your local shop for about $15.00. It WILL last you the rest of your life!
Drella - I wouldn't use any sweeteners yet, you'll end up with a sugar cube for a rootmass and the bugs will move in in droves. Fungus gnats everywhere. Just use a sweetener 2 or 3 times in the last 3 weeks of flower. Constantly feeding with it just invites pests. Some peeps on here use it all the time, but I wouldn't recommend it.
Drella - I wouldn't use any sweeteners yet, you'll end up with a sugar cube for a rootmass and the bugs will move in in droves. Fungus gnats everywhere. Just use a sweetener 2 or 3 times in the last 3 weeks of flower. Constantly feeding with it just invites pests. Some peeps on here use it all the time, but I wouldn't recommend it.
Shrubs First
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Well this is just me
but I would grab Humboldt Honey ES... That would be a greatcarbo supplement for your crop, it is basically a premium blend of cane molasses, yucca, kelp and ocean fish....Dankness
just as the human body hosts beneficial bacteria in the digestive system, plants
must host microbial life in their root zone to ensure proper digestion, growth
and health. Plants feed mycorrhizal and bacterial organisms near their root zone
with carbohydrates. This is the symbiotic relationship between plants and micro
organisms.
When a plant goes into a fruiting cycle they immediately divert sugars and
carbohydrates from their root zone to their fruiting bodies. It is at this time that
using Humboldt Honey ES becomes most crucial.
As the plant naturally channels carbohydrates to new flowers, buds, and fruits, the microbial life in the root zone suffers and starves.
You just mix it in with your nutes... You gotta have an aeration stone and aquarium
blower to keep it mixed and moving, cuz it is THICK and nasty stuff...
I recommend heating it up under warm water before use to get it a little more runny.