Old School Skunk, who's found it???

conor c

conor c

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Funkentelechy said:
I think the lack of sulfur from acid rain has decreased the available sulfur in the soil, and sulfur is responsible for a lot of skunk terps. But, you can change the pH, or amend the soil with however much sulfur you want, the old skunk genetic expressions are not found in the current strains.
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Idk then i did think that way for a bit but why did hydro skunk still turn out skunky then if it was only down the the higher levels of sulphur containing compounds in the dirt otherwise yes id think maybe so cos i do agree its proven they can increase the stink but i think its genetics tbh we lack those the way they should be today its probably down to bottlenecking and bad selections and folks losing the skunk or getting busted with it that is why its gone is my guess bud hopefully im wrong tho
 
Fallguy111

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conor c said:
Idk then i did think that way for a bit but why did hydro skunk still turn out skunky then if it was only down the the higher levels of sulphur containing compounds in the dirt otherwise yes id think maybe so cos i do agree its proven they can increase the stink but i think its genetics tbh we lack those the way they should be today its probably down to bottlenecking and bad selections and folks losing the skunk or getting busted with it that is why its gone is my guess bud hopefully im wrong tho
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The acid rain era had an effect on groundwater. Are VSC’s related to the amount of available sulfur?
 
Fallguy111

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MannyPacs said:
I'm pretty sure I've heard of people playing with sulphur for this exact reason and if my stoned memory serves me it *may* help increase aromas but doesn't unlock funk
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Skunk spray is made up of thiols, which are organic sulfur-containing compounds that give skunk its characteristic odor. Sulfur has an odor often described as spoiled cabbage or rotten eggs. The two thiols responsible for the strongly repellent odor of the secretion are (E)-2-butene-1-thiol and 3-methyl-1-butanethiol.
There are recent studies that supposedly have to do with increasing these volatile sulfur compounds, I have not read yet.
 
MannyPacs

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Fallguy111 said:
Skunk spray is made up of thiols, which are organic sulfur-containing compounds that give skunk its characteristic odor. Sulfur has an odor often described as spoiled cabbage or rotten eggs. The two thiols responsible for the strongly repellent odor of the secretion are (E)-2-butene-1-thiol and 3-methyl-1-butanethiol.
There are recent studies that supposedly have to do with increasing these volatile sulfur compounds, I have not read yet.
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Ya that was the hypothesis. Pretty sure it was figured out it did not increase those terps. Just anecdotal but I've pushed sulphur levels with both mag sul and potassium sul and it didn't "unlock" anything that wasn't already there
 
conor c

conor c

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Fallguy111 said:
It doesn’t claim to effect terps, but instead the VSC’s which effect scent(and possibly entourage effect). Being that the scent of a skunk is made of these compounds… I’ll find and read the studies and get back to you.
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Yeah i seen that study why i said its proven to increase the stink and yes of course vsc's contain sulphur i just think its more than just that is all i aint debating does sulphur help yes it does mate i agree there but i think its maybe only one part of it
 
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decrepit digits

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TheChemist77 said:
Funny how we have had all the advances in growing lights, nutrients, organic. Yet lost all the good strains along the way. My guess is the skunk we are looking for if ever found would be more for smelling than smoking as I’m betting it was probably like 10-15% the? But back then it was top notch not only because of the smell but because it wasn’t compressed brick weed. But oh every time I drive past a roadkill I slow down breath deeply and it reminds me of better days…
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You assume they were actual advances, not everything new is an advance. Most old good strains have not been lost only hidden and changed with generations removed from there origin. Take them back to there origins and breed them for a few generations the way they would have been grown and bred, they can be replicated. Skunk to me was never about the smell but the instant overwhelming high. I would bet my 15% non smelling skunk against any 30% or more tested weed in a real smoke test. There was all ready seedless un bricked weed around back in the skunk days.
Recently I have been playing with ways to restore the smell of skunk none have worked. I did not try breeding them in highly sulferous soil tho, someone else can try that, highly acidic soil and sulferous water and sulfate fertilizers were tried tho not all at the same time. And lots of other experiments, one that held promise was storing and germinating in a static electrical field something that might have happened way back on purpose or by accident.
 
go go kid

go go kid

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just found out i can get RKS and red beard skunk, only problem is, its on a travler site, and i don't know whos in charge of the cuts at the moment. i told myself i woulden't have anything more to do with them after an incident.
but it would be worth it
 
conor c

conor c

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go go kid said:
just found out i can get RKS and red beard skunk, only problem is, its on a travler site, and i don't know whos in charge of the cuts at the moment. i told myself i woulden't have anything more to do with them after an incident.
but it would be worth it
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Red skunk and skunk special are one and the same mate you can still get seeds of it from female seeds or kwik seeds its proly the best representations of the old skunk1 left tbh its only fault is it isnt very sexually stable but it reeks of catpiss and it yields a ton so its still worth running imo
 
TheChemist77

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decrepit digits said:
You assume they were actual advances, not everything new is an advance. Most old good strains have not been lost only hidden and changed with generations removed from there origin. Take them back to there origins and breed them for a few generations the way they would have been grown and bred, they can be replicated. Skunk to me was never about the smell but the instant overwhelming high. I would bet my 15% non smelling skunk against any 30% or more tested weed in a real smoke test. There was all ready seedless un bricked weed around back in the skunk days.
Recently I have been playing with ways to restore the smell of skunk none have worked. I did not try breeding them in highly sulferous soil tho, someone else can try that, highly acidic soil and sulferous water and sulfate fertilizers were tried tho not all at the same time. And lots of other experiments, one that held promise was storing and germinating in a static electrical field something that might have happened way back on purpose or by accident.
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Good luck with the breeding project. I tried for a wile back some years w aculpolco gold landrace, Columbian, even Ty landraces, afghan, and a few others,,,good crosses but never captured what I was going for, perhaps if I popped the 100’s of seeds I’d find somthing but I no longer have the time or space for it. Anyways u find it please let me know!
 
conor c

conor c

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TheChemist77 said:
Good luck with the breeding project. I tried for a wile back some years w aculpolco gold landrace, Columbian, even Ty landraces, afghan, and a few others,,,good crosses but never captured what I was going for, perhaps if I popped the 100’s of seeds I’d find somthing but I no longer have the time or space for it. Anyways u find it please let me know!
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For the afghan bit try balkhi rather than what we call mazari there from the same region pretty much but balkhi/chimtal is more what we would call "indica" like and that can have some nasty phenos in it as can Kandahar and thats also closer to what we call indica in growth/look those are the two that come up for stink when you ask afghans themselves what is there stinkiest stuff they say those two so id try there first then maybe hopar valley from pakistan failing that
 
TheChemist77

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conor c said:
For the afghan bit try balkhi rather than what we call mazari there from the same region pretty much but balkhi/chimtal is more what we would call "indica" like and that can have some nasty phenos in it as can Kandahar and thats also closer to what we call indica in growth/look those are the two that come up for stink when you ask afghans themselves what is there stinkiest stuff they say those two so id try there first then maybe hopar valley from pakistan failing that
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Good to know,,,thanks for the info!
 
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decrepit digits

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TheChemist77 said:
Good luck with the breeding project. I tried for a wile back some years w aculpolco gold landrace, Columbian, even Ty landraces, afghan, and a few others,,,good crosses but never captured what I was going for, perhaps if I popped the 100’s of seeds I’d find somthing but I no longer have the time or space for it. Anyways u find it please let me know!
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I like a challenge, but this is my last breeding of pure'ish skunks. Just thought I'd chase the smell while I was at it, everything else I was after will be in there. I doubt I will ever find the right mexican to add back in. If anyone finds a true breeding skunk (where the smell carrys to the next generation) I can add back the rest.
 
conor c

conor c

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decrepit digits said:
I like a challenge, but this is my last breeding of pure'ish skunks. Just thought I'd chase the smell while I was at it, everything else I was after will be in there. I doubt I will ever find the right mexican to add back in. If anyone finds a true breeding skunk (where the smell carrys to the next generation) I can add back the rest.
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Aye the mexi might be hard to find pure theres still some good ones around but is it the right one is the question bud good luck on your project
 
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