OMG there is a "Obamaphone"

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NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- One of America's fastest-growing wireless carriers is a company you've probably never heard of: Tracfone Wireless. It's the U.S. arm of a telecom empire controlled by the world's richest man, Carlos Slim, and it's the biggest player in an increasingly lucrative market: subsidized mobile phones for low-income Americans. The subsidy became a political flashpoint recently thanks to an incendiary YouTube video featuring a Cleveland resident praising her free "Obama phone." Hype from the Drudge Report and conservative ringleaders like Rush Limbaugh propelled the video to nearly 5 million pageviews.
The real story behind the phones is more nuanced than the 45-second clip.
The subsidy is from a government-created program called Lifeline, which is paid for by customer fees on most phone bills. The program is overseen by the Federal Communications Commission, and has its roots in a universal access initiative that began in 1985, during Ronald Reagan's administration.


Here's how it works: If you're eligible for other forms of government assistance like Medicaid or food stamps (the rules differ by state), then you qualify to receive a $9.25 per month phone subsidy.
Participating wireless companies will typically offer a free phone (paid for by the company), with an allotment of Lifeline minutes each month.
Lifeline subscribers can collect only one monthly subsidy, for either a landline or a wireless phone. Around 75% of them have chosen to go wireless.
Where does the money for Lifeline subsidy come from? You.
Take a look at your phone bill and you'll see a charge -- typically a few dollars a month -- for payments to the "Universal Service Fund." That's the umbrella program covering various ventures, including Lifeline, that are designed to make telephone communications universally available to all Americans.
The government requires most telecoms to pay into the fund. The carriers then typically pass the costs on to their customers as a monthly surcharge. Last year, Lifeline accounted for 20% of the $8.1 billion Universal Service Fund distributed to support connections for rural areas, schools, hospitals and low-income individuals.

There are 17 million households currently signed up for the program, up from under 7 million just four years ago.
There are two reasons for the rapid growth.
First, the recession dramatically increased the number of people who are eligible.
Second, in 2008, during George W. Bush's administration, the FCC allowed wireless carrier Tracfone to join the program's list of approved providers.
Tracfone has aggressively gone after Lifeline customers. It advertises its "free phone" on television, pays commissioned street teams to canvas low-income neighborhoods for new subscribers, and signs customers up through a splashy website that promises "250 Free Minutes Every Month! Pay Nothing!"
Those tactics are paying off. Tracfone now has more than has more than 4 million subscribers in its Lifeline program, called SafeLink, and collected $452 million last year from the program's subsidies. That's twice what it took in two years ago, and far more than any other provider. (The runners-up, AT&T (T, Fortune 500)and Sprint (S, Fortune 500), each collected around $274 million.)
The Lifeline cash is a substantial chunk of the $3.8 billion Tracfone generated last year in annual sales. The company is the American subsidiary of América Móvil, the Mexican telecom giant run by Carlos Slim, the world's richest billionaire.
Lifeline customers aren't as profitable for Tracfone as traditional ones, but the streams are reliable and help expand the company's customer base.
"The wonderful thing about the program is that individuals who no longer qualify for the phone keep the phone," says Jose Fuentes, Tracfone's director of government relations. "They can continue to remain Tracfone customers."
Advocates say the program is an essential safety net: A telephone links people to emergency services, and it's almost impossible to get a job without a phone number.


Advocates say the program is an essential safety net: A telephone links people to emergency services, and it's almost impossible to get a job without a phone number.
"I use it to keep in touch with my family and my friends, and work-related services like business appointments," says Kathy Jarrett, a Brooklyn, N.Y. resident who has been a Lifeline subscriber for four years. "If I didn't have a phone I would be a wreck."
But in the days leading up the election, the booming Lifeline expansion is raising eyebrows. The program paid out $1.6 billion last year, more than twice the $772 million it spent in 2008.
Congressman Tim Griffin, a Republican from Arkansas, blasted it as a "government-run, taxpayer-funded" boondoggle that's "riddled with instances of abuse." He introduced a bill that would drop mobile phones from the program.
"That is one of the biggest misconceptions that are out there today, that federal dollars go directly to the Universal Service Fund," says Tracfone's Fuentes. "That is completely incorrect."
Griffin's retort: "Consumers are forced to pay it, and where I come from, that's a tax."
Democrats have also challenged Lifeline's excesses. Senator Claire McCaskill, from Missouri, drew attention last year to Lifeline's minimal oversight after receiving a flyer at home inviting her to get a free cell phone. (With an annual Senate salary of $174,000, McCaskill isn't exactly the target market.)
The FCC implemented anti-fraud measures earlier this year, requiring subscribers to prove their eligibility, canceling service if the phone is not used for 60 days, and preventing individuals from having multiple phones. The agency says it canceled 800,000 duplicate contracts and expects to save $200 million this year.
Lifeline "wreaks havoc" in the competitive market, according to Roger Entner, the founder of Recon Analytics, a wireless industry research and consulting firm. Carriers targeting the prepaid market -- one of the industry's fastest-growing segments -- can't compete with free

But in the end, he thinks the safety net is worth it.
"As a country we want everyone to have communications. Without a phone, you can't get a job," Entner says. "I'm sure that Lifeline has literally saved people's lives."
 
the obamaphone flap is NOT about the lifeline phone program which has been around for a long time, its the insanity of rabid obamaa enthusiasts with no interest in any part of the political process that does not involve them getting "free shit" and obama good/everyone else bad.

the ignorance, gleeful stupidity and outright shamelessness of that broad and her joy to receive public assistance as her right for being a "low minority" is what made the video so galling to those of us who pay the bills for her food stamps, welfare, disability, sosh security, and yes, even the pittance of the obamaphone.

being on public assistance should be something one wishes to avoid, not a joyous cause for celebration.
 
the obamaphone flap is NOT about the lifeline phone program which has been around for a long time, its the insanity of rabid obamaa enthusiasts with no interest in any part of the political process that does not involve them getting "free shit" and obama good/everyone else bad.

the ignorance, gleeful stupidity and outright shamelessness of that broad and her joy to receive public assistance as her right for being a "low minority" is what made the video so galling to those of us who pay the bills for her food stamps, welfare, disability, sosh security, and yes, even the pittance of the obamaphone.

being on public assistance should be something one wishes to avoid, not a joyous cause for celebration.

So the program didnt start with Obama?
And white people get it too?
 
So the program didnt start with Obama?
And white people get it too?

see you want it to be about race but it aint.

the bitch was practically dancing in the streets celebrating all the "free shit' she gets and obama gonna git her more "free shit"

its that greed selfishness and desire to suckle at the public teat that makes conservatives angry, not that she was black, or that "obama got her a phone" or all the "free shit" the taxpayers will giver her and other "low minority" persons if they just "keep obama in president you know"

as a conservative i dont hate people who need assistance, but if they dance in the streets and claim that "obama gonna git them more" they deserve to be slapped silly. it's not "obama's stash" that funds these programs, its the taxes of people who are NOT on public assistance that she so gleefully takes while extolling the virtues of the welfare state.

obama himself doesnt say shit when the most ignorant and uninformed praise HIS largesse with other people's money, when in fact he knows HE didnt pay for her phone. the rest of cleveland that doesnt get "free shit" paid for it.
 
see you want it to be about race but it aint.

the bitch was practically dancing in the streets celebrating all the "free shit' she gets and obama gonna git her more "free shit"

its that greed selfishness and desire to suckle at the public teat that makes conservatives angry, not that she was black, or that "obama got her a phone" or all the "free shit" the taxpayers will giver her and other "low minority" persons if they just "keep obama in president you know"

as a conservative i dont hate people who need assistance, but if they dance in the streets and claim that "obama gonna git them more" they deserve to be slapped silly. it's not "obama's stash" that funds these programs, its the taxes of people who are NOT on public assistance that she so gleefully takes while extolling the virtues of the welfare state.

obama himself doesnt say shit when the most ignorant and uninformed praise HIS largesse with other people's money, when in fact he knows HE didnt pay for her phone. the rest of cleveland that doesnt get "free shit" paid for it.

no taxes at all are involved
check out your cell phone bill
and thank Reagan for that extra charge
 
no taxes at all are involved
check out your cell phone bill
and thank Reagan for that extra charge

Oh, so now you are Ronald Regan??? Reagan had nothing to do with the ABW. That's your religion, right? Alligator Butt Worship.

Is too, Is too!!! See everyone. Is too, Infinity, no touch backs.
 
Who pays for the booth on the corner I saw the other day?

Doesn't matter to me if Reagan started it or not. I'm not a fan.
 
Oh, so now you are Ronald Regan??? Reagan had nothing to do with the ABW. That's your religion, right? Alligator Butt Worship.

Is too, Is too!!! See everyone. Is too, Infinity, no touch backs.

The Lifeline program is a federally funded program that was created during President Ronald Regan's administration in the 1980's. Lifeline was originally created to provide financial assistance to low income residents ensuring that they receive affordable and reliable land line telephone service

Wow you really couldnt be more stupid if you tried
 
LOL! I just wanted to quote this before he figures it out.

Look on your cell phone and landline bill
It is not a tax
You agree to pay the fee to the company who provides their services
it is no more a tax than paying for your car registration
Thought I would post that before you could figure it out
 
Look on your cell phone and landline bill
It is not a tax
You agree to pay the fee to the company who provides their services
it is no more a tax than paying for your car registration
Thought I would post that before you could figure it out

i gotta agree with ginwilly. when government places a levy, fee, or excise on any goods or services that is a tax.

the congress has the power and authority to charge these taxes, and calling them something else does not change their nature.

theres a stamp on the bottom of each pack of smokes, marking the Tax paid. you can call it what you like, a fee for the stamp, a levy on smoking, a surcharge to defray the medical costs of lung cancer, whatever. it's still a tax.

the lifleline phone surcharge is a tax. even if you call it a surcharge.

all that bullshit aside, its a good program and a good idea. but dancing in the streets celebrating that you get public assistance and "obama gonna get you more" is guaranteed to put up the hackles of all the people who pay the tax/surcharge/magical rainbow pony fee.
 
wow, you honestly don't understand what a tax is do you. That would explain a lot.
Obviously you dont
Doesnt matter what your cell phone or landline bill is
you agreed to pay a set amount on your bill when you signed up with the company that provides your service
Correct me if I am wrong
a tax is something mandated by the goverment that is based on a percentage of value of a asset or transaction

The goverment does not compell you to pay one cent
You agreed to pay a fee to the company in your contract
 
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