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BlazinDucks

BlazinDucks

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I have a large lilac bush that is fully coated in pm, it is about 5 feet away from the closest plant. I cut every damn branch off once this season in hopes that it would grow back normally. It came back even more infected the second time around. Hopefully it stays away from the plants, or ill just cut it all off again.
 
Humanrob

Humanrob

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@BlazinDucks -- I don't know if this is true... but I read somewhere that plants that are sick, injured, or under stress have the equivalent of a weakened immune system, and are more likely to fall prey to fungi and disease. (Can anyone confirm that?) I mention it because cutting the plant back may have shocked and weakened it, leaving it more vulnerable which is why, as you say, "It came back even more infected the second time around."

Perhaps a better solution is to mix up an extra big batch of anti-fungi spray and spray the lilac when you spray your cannabis plants?
 
BlazinDucks

BlazinDucks

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Humanrob said:
@BlazinDucks -- I don't know if this is true... but I read somewhere that plants that are sick, injured, or under stress have the equivalent of a weakened immune system, and are more likely to fall prey to fungi and disease. (Can anyone confirm that?) I mention it because cutting the plant back may have shocked and weakened it, leaving it more vulnerable which is why, as you say, "It came back even more infected the second time around."

Perhaps a better solution is to mix up an extra big batch of anti-fungi spray and spray the lilac when you spray your cannabis plants?
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It could be, it gets trimmed back at least once a year. This is the first year I've really noticed it. The other lilacs around the yard have zero issues. I've yet to spray my plants with anything, really hoping I don't have to. I can't bring myself to spray shit on a plant I plan to smoke, no matter how safe they say these things are. There's also a fear of the unknown, my one attempt to spray them last year lead to all the leaves talon clawing. I don't want to deal with that again. maybe the worms and whatever else will just realize all the hard work and effort I've put in to this year and just fly past. Lol
 
ktmac20

ktmac20

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BlazinD....I use this on my plants...totally organic...

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Also I looked at my "male" The Black with my loupe...it is a hermie! What should I do with a hermie plant. My plan was to only collect pollen from it as it started as a male!!
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Last year was first grow. From the four Mastodon plants harvested about 6 1/2 pounds, which is about 60 years worth of smoking at my level of consumption. The strain was supposed to be Indica dominant and ready by the end of September but by then still needed a few more weeks to finish. The rains cut it short and I had to harvest before fully ripe. The product is strong smokes nice but a bit speedy. No couch-lock or anxiety issues, just not the Indica stone that I like. Still it's a very nice day time buzz.

So, I don't need much. An ounce will last me a year. I don't want to invest in green house or hoop house to make extending the harvest possible.

Figuring I have plenty of daytime weed, I figured I'd try something different and ordered a high cbd autoflower to enable early harvest. My order was Med GOM 1.0 ($40/4 seeds including shipping) from Southern Oregon Seeds. They threw in five auto AK47 freebies. all fem


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The two on each end are auto AK47 and MED GOM 1.0 are in the middle. One AK is taller than the rest, buds are smaller and less dense (far left). The two GOM and AK on the right are about 3-4 feet tall and about 3 feet around.

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Flowers on the right side AK 47

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^^Med GOM flower (left), AK47 (right)
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^^Top cola on AK47 (left side)

Looking at flowers with 15x loupe, some hairs are turning amber. Trichs mostly clear to cloudy, no amber trichs. The AK47 has a musky scent and the MED GOM 1.0 have a wonderful piney spice scent.

So far, pretty happy with everything. Seeds were started May 15. Using seed company's numbers, the AK should finish first, then the MED. This would be towards the middle to end of August. No sign of pests. I haven't sprayed anything. I have gone out at night to check a few times. No sign of pests then either. Just crossing my fingers. No PM. I did have PM on zucchini that was nearby my cannabis and ended them immediately. But that's mostly been it. Other than cabbage worms that I trap out on a stand of chard, no pests anywhere.

I didn't have pest problems with my grow last year either. Other than bud rot that got started after rains at end of September 2016 and never fucking stopped for weeks on end. Which is why I had to harvest before fully mature flowers on my photo-dominant Mastodon. Never have had a problem with pests in my organic 20 year old no-till plot. So, keeping fingers crossed and depending on all those beneficial around me.
 
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getawaymountain

getawaymountain

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Fogdog said:
Last year was first grow. From the four Mastodon plants harvested about 6 1/2 pounds, which is about 60 years worth of smoking at my level of consumption. The strain was supposed to be Indica dominant and ready by the end of September but by then still needed a few more weeks to finish. The rains cut it short and I had to harvest before fully ripe. The product is strong smokes nice but a bit speedy. No couch-lock or anxiety issues, just not the Indica stone that I like. Still it's a very nice day time buzz.

So, I don't need much. An ounce will last me a year. I don't want to invest in green house or hoop house to make extending the harvest possible.

Figuring I have plenty of daytime weed, I figured I'd try something different and ordered a high cbd autoflower to enable early harvest. My order was Med GOM 1.0 ($40/4 seeds including shipping) from Southern Oregon Seeds. They threw in five auto AK47 freebies. all fem


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The two on each end are auto AK47 and MED GOM 1.0 are in the middle. One AK is taller than the rest, buds are smaller and less dense (far left). The two GOM and AK on the right are about 3-4 feet tall and about 3 feet around.

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Flowers on the right side AK 47

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^^Med GOM flower (left), AK47 (right)
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^^Top cola on AK47 (left side)

Looking at flowers with 15x loupe, some hairs are turning amber. Trichs mostly clear to cloudy, no amber trichs. The AK47 has a musky scent and the MED GOM 1.0 have a wonderful piney spice scent.

So far, pretty happy with everything. Seeds were started May 15. Using seed company's numbers, the AK should finish first, then the MED. This would be towards the middle to end of August. No sign of pests. I haven't sprayed anything. I have gone out at night to check a few times. No sign of pests then either. Just crossing my fingers. No PM. I did have PM on zucchini that was nearby my cannabis and ended them immediately. But that's mostly been it. Other than cabbage worms that I trap out on a stand of chard, no pests anywhere.

I didn't have pest problems with my grow last year either. Other than bud rot that got started after rains at end of September 2016 and never fucking stopped for weeks on end. Which is why I had to harvest before fully mature flowers on my photo-dominant Mastodon. Never have had a problem with pests in my organic 20 year old no-till plot. So, keeping fingers crossed and depending on all those beneficial around me.
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looks good ounce a year to smoke me and momma smoke an ounce a week each we need 8-lbs a year just for us
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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getawaymountain said:
looks good ounce a year to smoke me and momma smoke an ounce a week each we need 8-lbs a year just for us
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Ounce a week. That's definitely going to need more garden than I'm growing. I'm a lightweight. Pretty much useless after a bong hit. Can't even type. LOL
 
Humanrob

Humanrob

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Fogdog said:
Last year was first grow. From the four Mastodon plants harvested about 6 1/2 pounds, which is about 60 years worth of smoking at my level of consumption. The strain was supposed to be Indica dominant and ready by the end of September but by then still needed a few more weeks to finish. The rains cut it short and I had to harvest before fully ripe. The product is strong smokes nice but a bit speedy. No couch-lock or anxiety issues, just not the Indica stone that I like. Still it's a very nice day time buzz.

So, I don't need much. An ounce will last me a year. I don't want to invest in green house or hoop house to make extending the harvest possible.

Figuring I have plenty of daytime weed, I figured I'd try something different and ordered a high cbd autoflower to enable early harvest. My order was Med GOM 1.0 ($40/4 seeds including shipping) from Southern Oregon Seeds. They threw in five auto AK47 freebies. all fem


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The two on each end are auto AK47 and MED GOM 1.0 are in the middle. One AK is taller than the rest, buds are smaller and less dense (far left). The two GOM and AK on the right are about 3-4 feet tall and about 3 feet around.

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Flowers on the right side AK 47

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^^Med GOM flower (left), AK47 (right)
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^^Top cola on AK47 (left side)

Looking at flowers with 15x loupe, some hairs are turning amber. Trichs mostly clear to cloudy, no amber trichs. The AK47 has a musky scent and the MED GOM 1.0 have a wonderful piney spice scent.

So far, pretty happy with everything. Seeds were started May 15. Using seed company's numbers, the AK should finish first, then the MED. This would be towards the middle to end of August. No sign of pests. I haven't sprayed anything. I have gone out at night to check a few times. No sign of pests then either. Just crossing my fingers. No PM. I did have PM on zucchini that was nearby my cannabis and ended them immediately. But that's mostly been it. Other than cabbage worms that I trap out on a stand of chard, no pests anywhere.

I didn't have pest problems with my grow last year either. Other than bud rot that got started after rains at end of September 2016 and never fucking stopped for weeks on end. Which is why I had to harvest before fully mature flowers on my photo-dominant Mastodon. Never have had a problem with pests in my organic 20 year old no-till plot. So, keeping fingers crossed and depending on all those beneficial around me.
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I've been playing around with autos for the first time too. I'm not sure how I feel about them yet. The Blueberry is starting to look frosty, but under a loop the trichomes are spread out, since that's where the THC is they're looking kind of weak. The Dark Devil is certainly interesting looking, beautiful even, but has almost no 'hairs' and very little frost/trichomes at all. I LOVE that they finish early, and given how my photos are doing, I LOVE that they are feminized. My med patient/wife needs very high THC meds though, so they may not cut it for us.

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Speaking of photos, I read somewhere (pretty sure it was on RIU) that seeds that germinate in cold temps are more likely to have a higher ratio of boys. Not sure if there's any truth to that, but it would explain what I'm finding so far. I planted 9 photo plants, so far 3 have been boys, and I'm 99% sure two more are, and 90% sure one other is. It looks like out of 9 plants/4 strains, I'm going to have 3 girls/2 strains. I've never had anything like that happen before. In the half dozen times I've germinated seeds they were always about 2/3's female.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Humanrob said:
I've been playing around with autos for the first time too. I'm not sure how I feel about them yet. The Blueberry is starting to look frosty, but under a loop the trichomes are spread out, since that's where the THC is they're looking kind of weak. The Dark Devil is certainly interesting looking, beautiful even, but has almost no 'hairs' and very little frost/trichomes at all. I LOVE that they finish early, and given how my photos are doing, I LOVE that they are feminized. My med patient/wife needs very high THC meds though, so they may not cut it for us.

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Speaking of photos, I read somewhere (pretty sure it was on RIU) that seeds that germinate in cold temps are more likely to have a higher ratio of boys. Not sure if there's any truth to that, but it would explain what I'm finding so far. I planted 9 photo plants, so far 3 have been boys, and I'm 99% sure two more are, and 90% sure one other is. It looks like out of 9 plants/4 strains, I'm going to have 3 girls/2 strains. I've never had anything like that happen before. In the half dozen times I've germinated seeds they were always about 2/3's female.
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Nice looking flowers.

Regarding high CBD and low THC, I just figured I could blend high THC weed if I wanted higher THC in what I was smoking. I was interested in high CBD strains and saw that time to maturity in photo strains would take me well into October. Autoflower should be done by late August. This was a cheap experiment to try high CBD strain and I'll decide if stepping up the hardware needed to grow into late October-early November is worth it. It would have amazing to get me to shell out the money and time to build a shelter that I wouldn't have to fuss with every time a storm blew through, not to mention environment control. It all depends on the quality of the autoflower after cure. Yield too but less of an issue for me. I like the simplicity of autoflower and will have to evaluate results after it's all done.

At 50:50 odds, 3 females out of 9 seeds is about 33%, You could have just been unlucky this year and it was nothing you did or didn't do. You use a seed starting mat to help get them started? I'm guessing you did.
 
Humanrob

Humanrob

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Fogdog said:
Nice looking flowers.

Regarding high CBD and low THC, I just figured I could blend high THC weed if I wanted higher THC in what I was smoking. I was interested in high CBD strains and saw that time to maturity in photo strains would take me well into October. Autoflower should be done by late August. This was a cheap experiment to try high CBD strain and I'll decide if stepping up the hardware needed to grow into late October-early November is worth it. It would have amazing to get me to shell out the money and time to build a shelter that I wouldn't have to fuss with every time a storm blew through, not to mention environment control. It all depends on the quality of the autoflower after cure. Yield too but less of an issue for me. I like the simplicity of autoflower and will have to evaluate results after it's all done.

At 50:50 odds, 3 females out of 9 seeds is about 33%, You could have just been unlucky this year and it was nothing you did or didn't do. You use a seed starting mat to help get them started? I'm guessing you did.
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I did use a seed starting mat, but I also put them outside kind of early. They spent their early weeks in our cold overcast/rainy May/June late spring. If I go by plant; Willamette Valley Pineapple (99% sure) 2/2 boys, Cheri's Gift (high CBD) so far 2/3 boys, but it looks looks like it will be 3/3 boys, Dream Catcher 1/boy 1/girl, and Amnesia Hashplant looks to be both girls... but that's the one that already has stem rot at the base of the plant so I would be very surprised if they finish. Just wasn't my year. These were all OGS seeds, I'll try a couple of Getaway Mountain next year, but if autos don't do it for us I might just stick to winter indoor growing and take my summers off.

I am planning on giving autos the best possible chance to succeed, to that end I bought some Mephisto auto seeds. An all auto summer outdoor would be awesome if we can find potent enough strains.

At least the summer indoor CBD plants (a pair of Cannatonics) were a fairly successful harvest. Similar to you, I figure we'll sprinkle some hash on them if we want a stronger CBD/THC blend.
 
too larry

too larry

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Humanrob said:
. . . . .Speaking of photos, I read somewhere (pretty sure it was on RIU) that seeds that germinate in cold temps are more likely to have a higher ratio of boys. Not sure if there's any truth to that, but it would explain what I'm finding so far. I planted 9 photo plants, so far 3 have been boys, and I'm 99% sure two more are, and 90% sure one other is. It looks like out of 9 plants/4 strains, I'm going to have 3 girls/2 strains. I've never had anything like that happen before. In the half dozen times I've germinated seeds they were always about 2/3's female.
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Rob, I heard hot temps at germination will make more males. Sub Cool {of you tube weed nerd fame} says that when it's over 85F you get more males. Last year when I watered my seeds in the pots, I would always use hose water that was hot as hell. I got an over abundance of males. Not sure if that was the reason.
 
Humanrob

Humanrob

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too larry said:
Rob, I heard hot temps at germination will make more males. Sub Cool {of you tube weed nerd fame} says that when it's over 85F you get more males. Last year when I watered my seeds in the pots, I would always use hose water that was hot as hell. I got an over abundance of males. Not sure if that was the reason.
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LOL... too hot, too cold, very possibly I remembered that backwards.
 
BlazinDucks

BlazinDucks

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I'm curious about the guys growing from seed as opposed to getting clones. What's the reasoning behind it? My guesses are as follows.

Buying seeds is a much easier way to get ahold of specific strains?

You don't trust buying clones for varying reasons?

You are in search of both males and females?

You want to be in control of the plant from the get go?

It grows better, or is more potent?


I've only used clones at this point. I don't have any intentions to breed. I prefer clones because I know they're female already, and they normally have numerous branches down low to start with. The trouble is finding the specific strains you want when the time comes. I had limited options on dispensaries that sold decent clones in my area. I think the only time I would try seeds is if I was going to try my luck with some auto flowering.
 
ktmac20

ktmac20

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Wow! Liking the looks of that Dark Devil!

I went with seed starts this year as I like "The Black" as a strain and wanted to try seeds from the original breeder BC Bud Depot! and I like it's indica affect.

Plus I just wanted to try growing from seed! So far I am disappointed in the colors from the seed starts. The girls flowering in my tent are not showing any purple color. They do have the definite "The Black" nose to them!

I am really considering chopping my Blueberry male as my "The Black" male has hermied on me and I don't want to deal with collecting pollen and all that!

So...I may just go back to clones again.

Cheers
 
Humanrob

Humanrob

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BlazinDucks said:
I'm curious about the guys growing from seed as opposed to getting clones. What's the reasoning behind it? My guesses are as follows.

Buying seeds is a much easier way to get ahold of specific strains?

You don't trust buying clones for varying reasons?

You are in search of both males and females?

You want to be in control of the plant from the get go?

It grows better, or is more potent?


I've only used clones at this point. I don't have any intentions to breed. I prefer clones because I know they're female already, and they normally have numerous branches down low to start with. The trouble is finding the specific strains you want when the time comes. I had limited options on dispensaries that sold decent clones in my area. I think the only time I would try seeds is if I was going to try my luck with some auto flowering.
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Theoretically plants from a seeds -- especially in the ground -- throw down a tap root and then grow in their natural symmetrical branch formation, and I've read that these plants have a better chance of being healthy and hearty because they did not originate as a branch that popped roots as a survival adaptation. That said, I've had both seeds and clones be healthy, and both be weak.

The answer is easy with autos, I bought those as seeds because you can't really clone an auto. The others I bought from Oregon Green Seed because they are supposed to be extra hearty, mold resistant, and have short flower times. So far that has not been my experience with them. I had a GG#4 clone last year that I forced under a scrog and broke most of the main branches doing so. I repaired it with tape and that sucker finished beautifully. I got a pair of Amnesia Hashplants going from OGS that they claim are very mold resistant and they are both rotting already, and we haven't had a drop of rain in months. It's all anecdotal, but so far my experience has been pure chaos.

I find it really odd (stupid actually) that the dispensaries aren't stocking more clones that are properly suited for our climate -- especially April through June when lots of people are setting up for outdoor grows! (Oregon Diesel is one of the few clones I've seen locally that is a good fit). Next year I'll be buying some seeds from Getaway Mountain with the same goals in mind -- they are supposed to be well suited for our wet fall and short grow season.

If a local dispensary sold clones of Getaway's strains in late May, I'd buy them just to not have to deal with boys. No doubt. Hmmmm.... maybe next year I'll pop seeds in March, clone the girls, and just run those in my outdoor. Damn, I can't believe I haven't thought of that before.
 
ktmac20

ktmac20

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Well here is my beautiful Blueberry male just before I chopped him...switched him to 12/12 under T5 13 days ago...he chucked pollen today.

I just decided I didn't want to play with the whole pollen collecting and pollination of specific flowers at 3 weeks old...so...off with his head!!!

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ktmac20

ktmac20

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Also my indoor plants are flowering nicely
..The Black isn't showing the colors I prefer...but the nose from both are spot on...

The Black has a sweet fruity nose and the Blueberry definitely has a sweet blueberry nose after the initial odor settles down.

This was from running my fingers along the flowers...
 
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