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BlazinDucks

BlazinDucks

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Buyfrommycity said:
Nice job. I saw a technique called "pony tailing" the other day in a video that I thought looked pretty cool.

I've never been big on super cropping or topping my outdoor girls. I do use LST on some strains.View attachment 3969572
Ps I took 16 clones off this plant it was even bushier
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This is the only plant I'll be manipulating more than normal. It was just like a Chinese maple before. Just a dome of foliage. The sun doesn't hit that side of the house until around noon, so the backsides along the house doesn't get very much light. The others are big and bushy already. I've just been topping them fairly frequently.
 
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ktmac20

ktmac20

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Nice supercrop Blazin...I plan in doing the same with my outdoors girls. Just topped em for the last time...gonna let em recoup from that and let The Black recoup from transplant them supercrop em and let em be for the rest of growing!

Cheers
 
BlazinDucks

BlazinDucks

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ktmac20 said:
Nice supercrop Blazin...I plan in doing the same with my outdoors girls. Just topped em for the last time...gonna let em recoup from that and let The Black recoup from transplant them supercrop em and let em be for the rest of growing!

Cheers
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Looks like all of us are having pretty good luck other than the couple males that popped. Either way, all is looking great from all ends :-)
 
Humanrob

Humanrob

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Sounds like everyone is experimenting, that's a good thing. This year's big experiment for me is 'clustering' plants together. It probably wouldn't fool anyone if I were actually "inspected", but I thought I'd give it a try (since we are a med patient growing only for themselves on their own property, the only reason we would be checked out by authorities is if someone complained for some reason...).

I've probably mentioned this, but in order to get a couple of each strain out there in hopes that at least one of each would be a girl, I planted each strain in clumps to look like one big plant. Three out of four are two plants, in one case all three seeds popped so I planted all three. They started to show sex (a month earlier than usual) and then the sun came out and that sort of stopped development. I'm not 100% sure about any of them, but I think both Willamette Valley Pineapples are boys, and at least one of each of the others is as well. I was hoping to be left with one of each, we'll see. I'll let them develop beyond a doubt before I chop any.

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With all the rain and overcast weather we had, they were stretching from the start, but I'm thinking that they stretched even more because being planted so close together, they are competing for sunlight. Overall I think they look healthy, but getting too tall is a problem where I live -- so if I repeat this method I'll train them from a young age.

We took out another tree which will give them even more light (especially towards the end of the season), but the unintended consequence is two part -- first we exposed a street light directly onto the girls (hopefully those COBs won't be a problem), and secondly the lower branches of that tree were blocking a view of the yard from the busy street adjacent to our property. So, at this late stage I'm going to have to start training them. Most of them are about 5' tall already, and I have to keep them well under our 6' fence.

Just for fun, in the red circle is an auto for comparison. My first time growing autos, they are kind of "cute". They are also my insurance, if the rest of the crop is lost at the end of the season, the autos will be in jars and we'll have something to smoke while I'm firing up another indoor.

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BlazinDucks

BlazinDucks

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That's crazy looking ktmac. I'm looking forward to seeing how it ends up looking :-)

My neighbor dropped a few limbs down from the incredibly tall fir trees in the backyard today. I went and started to hack the top off a holly tree also, I got wore out and put it on hold for a couple days. In the end I'll gain another 1-2 hours of light after I finish the holly tree.

My backyard and neighbors around me is an ever changing landscape. Trees come down, hedges get trimmed. Some benefit, busy mostly lessens my privacy in certain spots. All of which I'm trying to seal up. There's a super bright halogen light in the neighbor ladies backyard that shoots right through on to the garden side of the house. I have the holly tree, and a pine tree filling in that gap slowly. I didn't have any issues last year, and our fence went up two feet on the good neighbor side since last year, with the addition of a new fence.

I created a wall of tomatoes on the entrance side of the garden which turned out to give great cover, and blend everything in nicely :-)

I've rambled on enough at this point i think.

In picture #1 there's a man 50-60 feet up in the tree prepping the cuts. I was fairly nervous watching the process.
 

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ktmac20

ktmac20

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You really gotta work and soften the branch body before even trying to bend it down...

If it is real thick, woody and fibrous you may have to gently soften it up with pliers or something mechanical.

The above plant was almost too tough for finger manipulation. Just had to squeeze and work it....even with that one branch did.crack a little.

But with all that said within 2 hrs the leaves and underbranches were already turning up.

I will post after pics tomorrow...working all day today

Cheers
 
Humanrob

Humanrob

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ktmac20 said:
You really gotta work and soften the branch body before even trying to bend it down...

If it is real thick, woody and fibrous you may have to gently soften it up with pliers or something mechanical.

The above plant was almost too tough for finger manipulation. Just had to squeeze and work it....even with that one branch did.crack a little.

But with all that said within 2 hrs the leaves and underbranches were already turning up.

I will post after pics tomorrow...working all day today

Cheers
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These plants grew fast and stretched, their main stems are hollow and a bit brittle, but not tough to bend (or break) at all. I gently pinched them as I've done before when doing this, and being hollow they collapse in on themselves easily and with little pressure, and then bend with almost no resistance -- but the sides crack open along the way (especially on the WV Pineapple). It's nothing like previous times that I've done this, when they would take a bunch of pressure to pinch and then often the branch would bounce back up after I bent them -- these stay down. It's odd, because its not just one strain acting this way, it's three different strains.

I only did a couple of branches on each one, if they recover well I'll do more, if not, I'll figure something else out.
 
sandhill larry

sandhill larry

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I'm not doing any supercropping this year. But how I did it before was to "pinch" the limb against a lighter or sharpie to soften it up before bending. I still broke too many to increase over all yield. This year I'm staking everything down.
 
Humanrob

Humanrob

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sandhill larry said:
I'm not doing any supercropping this year. But how I did it before was to "pinch" the limb against a lighter or sharpie to soften it up before bending. I still broke too many to increase over all yield. This year I'm staking everything down.
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My goal is not to increase yield, its to control the height of the plant -- but I hear you, I don't think its the optimal solution, just the best one I could think of considering where I'm at in the season.
 
sandhill larry

sandhill larry

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Humanrob said:
My goal is not to increase yield, its to control the height of the plant -- but I hear you, I don't think its the optimal solution, just the best one I could think of considering where I'm at in the season.
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I'm worrying about plant height too. I did more open spots during my Spring crop. But it was winter and no one was looking for weed. I'm using those same holes now, and don't want them to get out of hand. I'm just now getting my main crop out, so I will be fine for the most part. The few bigger plants are a worry though. One of the Peach is on the edge of an open glade, and you can see it 150 yards away. I have never had any that exposed before.
 
Humanrob

Humanrob

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Here's some pics of my odd "super cropping". I only did a few branches, and then only used the Tree Wound stuff on a couple of those. I'll give it 48 hours and then continue with whatever worked. You can see how far over they bent, basically after giving them a relatively gentle squeeze between my fingers, they just fell over.

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ktmac20

ktmac20

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Female? Are you seeing what I see? 80% sure I am seeing itty bitty pistils...this is my only Blueberry in my SCRoG tent...

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getawaymountain

getawaymountain

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Humanrob said:
Sounds like everyone is experimenting, that's a good thing. This year's big experiment for me is 'clustering' plants together. It probably wouldn't fool anyone if I were actually "inspected", but I thought I'd give it a try (since we are a med patient growing only for themselves on their own property, the only reason we would be checked out by authorities is if someone complained for some reason...).

I've probably mentioned this, but in order to get a couple of each strain out there in hopes that at least one of each would be a girl, I planted each strain in clumps to look like one big plant. Three out of four are two plants, in one case all three seeds popped so I planted all three. They started to show sex (a month earlier than usual) and then the sun came out and that sort of stopped development. I'm not 100% sure about any of them, but I think both Willamette Valley Pineapples are boys, and at least one of each of the others is as well. I was hoping to be left with one of each, we'll see. I'll let them develop beyond a doubt before I chop any.

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With all the rain and overcast weather we had, they were stretching from the start, but I'm thinking that they stretched even more because being planted so close together, they are competing for sunlight. Overall I think they look healthy, but getting too tall is a problem where I live -- so if I repeat this method I'll train them from a young age.

We took out another tree which will give them even more light (especially towards the end of the season), but the unintended consequence is two part -- first we exposed a street light directly onto the girls (hopefully those COBs won't be a problem), and secondly the lower branches of that tree were blocking a view of the yard from the busy street adjacent to our property. So, at this late stage I'm going to have to start training them. Most of them are about 5' tall already, and I have to keep them well under our 6' fence.

Just for fun, in the red circle is an auto for comparison. My first time growing autos, they are kind of "cute". They are also my insurance, if the rest of the crop is lost at the end of the season, the autos will be in jars and we'll have something to smoke while I'm firing up another indoor.

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looking good good luck with the season
 
Humanrob

Humanrob

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The super cropping appears to have done no harm, the one on the right was super-cropped, the one on the left is just a shorter plant that didn't need it. Next year I think I'll just top them a second time (and maybe a third). In the end, that will make more smaller colas and those are less likely to get bud rot than fewer big ones. In the past, plants that I've cut and trained the least have often done the best, so that's what I was going for, but now I see some form of training is inevitable.

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